[Tyler F]

all those examples are the lies we were told, IF i ever buy a bathesda game again its going to be used because they will never get my money for it, as much as i hate gamestop/ebgames for it i hate bathesda more for all the lies and damage control they are trying to hide.

[Nick Pryce]

also how is dark souls compared to demon souls?



probably due to the fact that it is a whole new engine they stated, i guess we heard that and immediately thought that this could be the one thing that could make the games work, maybe to read the data differently or find a way not to overwhelm the system

Hell of a lot harder even for me....I've beat demon souls twice

[Jade]

But how could Sony fix it? The PS3 version of Skyrim is not really a PS3 version of Skyrim. It is a XBOX 360 version disguised as the PS3. It would be like trying to turn the PS3 into a XBOX 360. No wonder PS3 is having so much trouble, it is playing an XBOX game. PC is close so PC players are able to slide. I think they will never fix it. They can't. Not without re-doing Skyrim. Maybe they will prove me wrong, but I doubt it.

Psh not even. PC can run it because of unofficial patches and console commands lol

[Cheville Thompson]

one solution would be to release a real version of ps3 skyrim with an option to exchange free for all those who have the current version.

By doing this, there will be no problem for any future DLC.

Too much money for too few buyers. People have given up already, they won't go and trade in their game for another possibly broken game that they will need to delete the uncompatible save files for and start over.

[DAVId Bryant]

We can always look at the bright side of the PS3 version of Skyrim, it loads faster then the Xbox!
.....
What else is there..?

[JR Cash]

We can always look at the bright side of the PS3 version of Skyrim, it loads faster then the Xbox!
.....
What else is there..?

Some peoples actually loads slower so, not everyone can look at it that way

[Laura Hicks]

i bet if i had a 360 and played that version it would be night and day and then be yelling "WHY THE HELL DOESNT IT PLAY LIKE THIS ON PS3!!!!". Ive only played it on my friend PC however this was before i knew of the problems the ps3 version had so i can not compare nor remember how smoothly it played.

ive played the xbox 360 ver and its definitly night and day, theres still some problems and a tiny bit of framerate issues every now and then but compared to the ps3 its night and day.

edit: also on the 360 u can have a char go past 10 mbs without all the ps3 issues, how sad it is, my friend with the 360 ver of skyrim always laughs at me.

[Juanita Hernandez]

Gee, isn't that nice. They will charge someone $10 to return a defective product, nevermind the fact that the company new about the defects before release yet still chose to move forward, and get a product that works the way it s supposed to.

Wow. Bethesda...real class acts.

It's a $10 replacement fee beyond the 90 days of original purchase. So if you bought Skyrim say 2 months ago, you can get the PC version for free. Even if you were sending back an Xbox version or a PC version, it would still be 10 bucks. However, if you were replacing it straight up for another BluRay, I think it's either 15 or 20.

I game on a budget. I don't have a pc capable of playing Skyrim, so that's out of the question for me. That's not an answer for a majority of people that unknowingly bought a broken game.

I have a pc but I know it's minimun specs to play Skyrim, but you can't run a game efficiently on any pc when all you have is minimun specs. You need at least the recomended specs to do anything worthwhile on a pc. So I know how you feel. I just put it out there for those that MIGHT have a capable PC, as a common courtesy because this information isn't thrown out there by Bethesda whatsoever. I had to hunt for it for a few hours. Now that I know what I'm looking for, and passing it on, it takes the next person that much less time.

Hey ya sure ill send my ps3 copy back....as long as they buy me a gaming pc to run the damn thing seeing as how all i have is an HP mini for university work

Not sure what an HP mini is, but I'm guessing it's one of things that looks like a laptop but is even smaller and has barely a 1/10th of the computing power?

My PC was able to run SWTOR so long as I turned most of the graphical settings down when there were lots of other pc's running about.




So the basic premise is this:

I'm in the same boat as you. I don't have a pc that is worth playing Skyrim on I believe, but the option is out there for people that do and that was the information they need to look for. I don't even have an Xbox anymore because both of mine, the original and the replacement one 18 months later both RROD.

The most stable console of the last 6 years gets the [censored]tiest game support from Bethesda. Irony (or something).

[Stace]

Some peoples actually loads slower so, not everyone can look at it that way

Typically, loading a saved game on PS3 will take longer than on Xbox. However everything else is typically faster (new game, fast travel, dungeon loading, interior building loading, city loading). Considering you would only load your game once or twice in a session (unless you play on a difficulty level that is beyond your skill), that more than makes up for the difference which is roughly 16 seconds between Xbox and PS3 load saved game time. Add up the 1-3 seconds faster on everything else, not including the new game load time, and compute on average how many times you do it during a gaming session, typically the person playing on PS3 will be on that cool rotating objects loading screen a lot less than the person on Xbox.

[GPMG]

Skyrim is my first Bethesda game I buy.

I have a powerful PC than enough to make it work but I decided to take it on PS3 because I already try typing keys on my keyboard in my bed ... and it is not great. But a joystick and video on the TV screen.

And I do not intend to buy a XBOX360, Microsoft has received enough money from me with Windows and Office.

[Milad Hajipour]

Is it just me but I finished eveything in Skyrim on my PS3, didn't play it for 3 weeks and then when I played it again the load times were instantaneous.I plaed it for a week and the loading times where again 5 minutes. Is this happening to anybody else.

[OTTO]

So the basic premise is this:

I'm in the same boat as you. I don't have a pc that is worth playing Skyrim on I believe, but the option is out there for people that do and that was the information they need to look for. I don't even have an Xbox anymore because both of mine, the original and the replacement one 18 months later both RROD.

The most stable console of the last 6 years gets the [censored]tiest game support from Bethesda. Irony (or something).

Yeah, I don't get all the support for Microsoft. I understand they're basically throwing money at Bethesda, but is that worth all the bad press they're getting now for their PS3 product? The PS3 is barely behind the 360 in worldwide sales and the PS3 released a year later, it's not a small market.

[loste juliana]

I'm seriously beginning to wonder why Microsoft... let alone Sony and/or PS3 customers... have not demanded redress from Bethesda. One would be given to understand that MS paid some substantial amount of money for the delay of a PS3 version of DLC that they imagined would otherwise have been released concurrently... if it was/has always been the case that extra content for PS3 was impossible, then Microsoft paid good money to avoid a purely fictive/invented commercial threat falsely posited by Bethesda. I'll cry no tears for MS, but they would seem to have been sold a bridge in Brooklyn.

I am unaware of the legalities involved... but can one seriously charge some parties for the appearance of, and some parties for the non-appearance of, something that never realistically could have been?

[Len swann]

exacly, we get used to lag, the patches effects are only placebo.

I played it on the PC first for a week while cat-sitting at a friends house...

I bought a PS3 a few months ago JUST for Skyrim.... and I feel the framerate is almost just as close as her powerful PC was.

I've had absolutely NO problem with the framerate. I think I can only count 2 times where it stuttered... and even then it lasted for only 2 seconds. Nothing that would kill my gameplay, and most certainly not the likes that I have seen on Youtube vids.

My save file is 14 meg - and I still do not have this problem. Clearly they did fix it and, thankfully, I skipped it.

Trust me... it's not Placebo at all. Take it from somebody (unlike you) who has a fresh untarnished recent experience with the game and didn't buy it at game-launch.

[Honey Suckle]

I'm sorry but why would anyone buy the PS3 version of Skyrim after experiencing how Fallout 3 and New Vegas was like?

Because some of us bought a PS3 for specific games and don't read every single web-blog/news report religiously (not that what you wrote above would've influenced my decision at all). My PS3 purchase decision was based around key franchises I like (One Piece: Pirate Warriors [got to love combining Dynasty warriors with One Piece!], Twisted Metal and God of War) and I infinitely prefer the PS3 controller over the Xbox controller.

[Sweets Sweets]

I'm sorry but why would anyone buy the PS3 version of Skyrim after experiencing how Fallout 3 and New Vegas was like? I've never played those games and I thought about getting them some months back to make time go by during my wait for Dawnguard back in May. But when I looked at the reviews of the games, I read so many bad news. Had I known about how bad these games played on the PS3, I wouldn't have even considered buying Skyrim for PS3 for fear it would be the exact same problem as Bethesda previous games and it is the exact same problem! I have heard they are not even going to fix the Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition at the state it is in. You can barely even move. Now if they don't give a darn about Fallout 3 GOTY Edition and Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition, I see no reason why Skyrim would be any different.

Most of those reviews are made by people who know nothing about entertainment if you set a sparkler fire in front of them and a tv show beside it theyd rate the flaming sparkler as better. Also is it just me or is it nothing but bellyaching and complaining about the DLC not being out? well possibly maybe they have a bug where if they released it blows up your ps3 hmm, yeah i'll wait longer for a proper release rather than another buggy game *cough RA1 cough*

[Cameron Wood]

Most of those reviews are made by people who know nothing about entertainment if you set a sparkler fire in front of them and a tv show beside it theyd rate the flaming sparkler as better. Also is it just me or is it nothing but bellyaching and complaining about the DLC not being out? well possibly maybe they have a bug where if they released it blows up your ps3 hmm, yeah i'll wait longer for a proper release rather than another buggy game *cough RA1 cough*

Just wait till my fellow PS3 gamers who still holding out for the DLC get the news they tried everything and DG and all future DLC won't be making to the PS3, the forums will explode with rage and anger.

[flora]

I'm sorry but why would anyone buy the PS3 version of Skyrim after experiencing how Fallout 3 and New Vegas was like? I've never played those games and I thought about getting them some months back to make time go by during my wait for Dawnguard back in May. But when I looked at the reviews of the games, I read so many bad news. Had I known about how bad these games played on the PS3, I wouldn't have even considered buying Skyrim for PS3 for fear it would be the exact same problem as Bethesda previous games and it is the exact same problem! I have heard they are not even going to fix the Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition at the state it is in. You can barely even move. Now if they don't give a darn about Fallout 3 GOTY Edition and Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition, I see no reason why Skyrim would be any different.

Umm well skyrim is the first TES game I've bought, I didn't know that Beth had problems coding ps3 games. Some people including myself don't think that company's would released a game that isn't up to standard.
I've never played a game that has had problems other then Beth's products.

I'm not complaining as I haven't had many problems with skyrim apart from not recieving my shout trophy.

I don't research games before I buy them, i look at some game play vids on YouTube, and ask the bloke at ebgames what he thinks of the game, and if I like it I buy it.

[stephanie eastwood]

Umm well skyrim is the first TES game I've bought, I didn't know that Beth had problems coding ps3 games. Some people including myself don't think that company's would released a game that isn't up to standard.
I've never played a game that has had problems other then Beth's products.

I'm not complaining as I haven't had many problems with skyrim apart from not recieving my shout trophy.

I don't research games before I buy them, i look at some game play vids on YouTube, and ask the bloke at ebgames what he thinks of the game, and if I like it I buy it.

Yeah that comment was for people who have played the fallout games and been through similar problems. Don't know why you responded. I had no idea that Bethesda would release Skyrim at a broken state either. Had I known about the previous games, I would have been a lot more hesitant. I would not have bought it at release and would have waited to see how it played out. No doubt later being convinced not to get it. Also, I was caught by the lies, just like most PS3 players. I suppose Bethesda had to lie about how Skyrim will be on the PS3 or else no one would have bought it. What gets on my nerves a bit, is that it was sold at the exact price as the XBOX and PC when the PS3 version was in such a poor state. It is funny, saddening, and maddening at the same time for me.

[Louise Dennis]

I agree, it will be bullsh*t if we don't get the dlc's considering we payed the same as Xbox, and the cover says downloadable content. If dlc's don't get released, I'd say they might have a law suit on their hands.

Even if it was a legal lawsuit, it probably wouldn't be worth it. If anything, they may refund you the price of the game. 60-80 bucks worth spending thousands to possibly lose against a large company ready with lawyers?

You don't have any emotional damages that need compensating or anything, you just didn't get a DLC. So, it's not a lawsuit that would be worth trying, at least I don't see a way that it could be. If it could then it'd be different of course, and I'm not a lawyer so I wouldn't really know lol.

But the way I see it, it's a situation where if you're screwed over in the end, it'd be better just to leave the company as a supporter.

[Jerry Jr. Ortiz]

Even if it was a legal lawsuit, it probably wouldn't be worth it. If anything, they may refund you the price of the game. 60-80 bucks worth spending thousands to possibly lose against a large company ready with lawyers?

You don't have any emotional damages that need compensating or anything, you just didn't get a DLC. So, it's not a lawsuit that would be worth trying, at least I don't see a way that it could be. If it could then it'd be different of course, and I'm not a lawyer so I wouldn't really know lol.

But the way I see it, it's a situation where if you're screwed over in the end, it'd be better just to leave the company as a supporter.

I know what you mean, I wouldn't personally sue them, but Sony potentially could. After all they have " false advertised"

[KIng James]

I know what you mean, I wouldn't personally sue them, but Sony potentially could. After all they have " false advertised"

Now Sony would probably have the money and the reason, and the reward to do such a thing. But they probably won't as if they can't even get the game working while helping Bethesda, they can't really feel like holding them at fault.

Sony would just do the same, and evade business with Bethesda.

The current direction, Bethesda is probably going to become PC and XBox exclusive.

[Elisha KIng]

I've just removed a few inappropriate posts. It's one thing to voice your opinions on this forum, but we do have rules that we expect all of our members to follow no matter the case. Keep in mind that our job as moderators isn't so much concerned with what you're saying so much as how you're saying it. And there's never an excuse to insult another member of this forum.

[Strawberry]

^^Job huh? Do you get paid in self satisfaction?

Now Sony would probably have the money and the reason, and the reward to do such a thing. But they probably won't as if they can't even get the game working while helping Bethesda, they can't really feel like holding them at fault.

Sony would just do the same, and evade business with Bethesda.

The current direction, Bethesda is probably going to become PC and XBox exclusive.

Might as well, they've lost a lot of customer. I'm never buying a Beth game new again.

[Kayleigh Williams]

^^Job huh? Do you get paid in self satisfaction?



Might as well, they've lost a lot of customer. I'm never buying a Beth game new again.

I'm actually curious as to whether moderators are paid or not. If it's like a part time job. They're spending their time on the forums doing a service afterall.

And I don't see why beth shouldn't become xbox and PC exclusive. They seem to be in favor of them themselves as their always porting from one of those two to PS3, and they are always messing up the PS3's run through of their games. They've done alot to tarnish their reputation starting before skyrim.

It'd be alot less stress for everyone if they just did this until they got their act together.

If they can work the PS4 then fine, but I think they should take a break from PS3.




Workers must be freaking out over that idea though. They'd wipe out an entire group of employees leaving them jobless.