Game still crashing

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:24 pm

Actually, when i first installed this on this pc, i ran ooo, game worked, i installed frans and mmm, game worked. didn't know about fcom til i came here. from there is was BOSS and WB. other little mods came later.

EDIT: I'm on a 300w psu. Also, this was a continuation of another thread. started a new one as other thread was getting full of load order posts, and i had made a few changes since then.
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Zosia Cetnar
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:54 pm

Next time, stick to one thread. We are used to threads full of load order, do not worry on that count. It is nice when we can follow the progress of your load order. That way, people will not jump in late with redundant suggestions. I would definitely upgrade that PSU. It looks like you can get a nice one for less than $60 too. I really like Corsair, and other recommend Cooler Master I think.

Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010090058%20113142556&bop=And&Order=RATING <-- I have used OCZ too, and my 600 GameXtreme is still running strong. Antec is a good brand too, make great cases, but as far as PSUs go, Corsair and Cooler Master seem to be the kings. If the Antecs price is much more attractive to you, I would not say anything to deter you; that's for sure.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:10 pm

Good point on following load order changes. Sorry 'bout that. And thanks for the link for the psu.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:05 pm

No problem. Newegg's default shipping is great too. I have not had to worry about things arriving on time with them, not to mention, you can always check the tracking status.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:24 pm

Only problem i've had with newegg was the crap mobo they sent me. took a while to get reimbursed for that.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:00 pm

Actually, when i first installed this on this pc, i ran ooo, game worked, i installed frans and mmm, game worked. didn't know about fcom til i came here.


Sounds fishy there already, as you can't run OOO, Fran's and MMM w/o FCOM. Anyway, good luck - I've given my advice, so do with is as you may.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:19 am

Sounds fishy there already, as you can't run OOO, Fran's and MMM w/o FCOM. Anyway, good luck - I've given my advice, so do with is as you may.



This is third pc i've run oblivion on and have used ooo, frans and mmm on all of them. this is the first one i've used fcom on. I'm getting better with load orders, omods and such, but obviously, i still have a long way to go. FCOM might be the best way to get ooo, frans and mmm to work togehter, but they do work without it.

EDIT: and i do appreciate your advice.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:10 pm

This is third pc i've run oblivion on and have used ooo, frans and mmm on all of them. this is the first one i've used fcom on. I'm getting better with load orders, omods and such, but obviously, i still have a long way to go. FCOM might be the best way to get ooo, frans and mmm to work togehter, but they do work without it.

They do not work well separately; otherwise, FCOM would not have come about. The changes that those mods make conflict with each other. The game may have been running, but there were problems and inconsistencies that you must have ignored and not been aware of. All you have to do is load the games up in TES4Edit to see all of the overlap. The ReadMes alone indicate that.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:47 pm

Okay, it's official, this game hates me.

I played for a while yesterday and last night; went well. Shut it down, went to bed. Get up this morning and game won't get past first loading screen again. I didn't change anything.

Don't know if i'm going to mess with reinstalling all this again. Probably will because I hate to let a software problem beat me.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:58 pm

I played for a while yesterday and last night; went well. Shut it down, went to bed. Get up this morning and game won't get past first loading screen again. I didn't change anything.


Post your load order maybe I can help you?

Crashing at loading screen, could be missing master file, or bsa is not getting loaded correctly, or ui is not installed correctly.

What type of video card do you have ?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:48 pm

Thanks for the reply.



WB Load Order:

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
06 Better Cities Resources.esm
07 CM Partners.esm
08 Kaleah.esm [Version 1.0]
09 Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esm [Version 1.0]
0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.5]
0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0D Better Cities .esp
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
10 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
11 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
13 IWR-Lights.esp
14 IWR-Windows.esp
15 IWR-Shutters.esp
16 Living Economy.esp
17 Living Economy - Items.esp
18 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
19 Landmarks.esp
1A DLCHorseArmor.esp
1B DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp [Version 0.90]
1C DLCOrrery.esp
1D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
1E DLCVileLair.esp
1F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
20 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
21 ALE_Armure_Legere.esp
22 EY_Vampirehunter.esp
23 StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
24 LC-Compilation-Exnem.esp
25 ExnemWarriorBikini.esp
26 BlackRogue.esp
27 Vampiress Armors For Exnem Body.esp
28 DLCThievesDen.esp
29 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
2A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
2B Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
2C FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2D Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
2E FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
2F Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
30 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]
31 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
32 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
33 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
34 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
35 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
36 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.5.5b3]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Fransfemale.esp
3B Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
3C DLCFrostcrag.esp
3D DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
3E Knights.esp
3F Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
41 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
42 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
43 Automagic Bags.esp
++ Short Grass V3.esp
44 Poison Arrows.esp
++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
45 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
46 CM Partners.esp
47 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
48 CM Partners More NPCs.esp
49 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
4A CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
4B Poseidon_ii_s Super sixy CM Companion Pack.esp
4C CM Partners Fayle.esp
4D CM Partners Xu.esp
4E pizz's BeastTaimer.esp
4F IlluminationWithout.esp
50 Sher Ja Lion Companion.esp
51 Better Cities Full.esp
52 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
53 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
54 Better Imperial City.esp
55 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
56 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
57 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ATI Radeon 4600 series
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:34 pm


++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.5.5b3]

41 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

57 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ATI Radeon 4600 series


Remove More Passive Wildlife has slight issue with fcom. Fixed in next version, so remove for now.

Update MMM H&C to version that came with MMM 3.7b3p3 Download

Make Sure Harvest Flora is version 3.0.1

Rebuild Patch

What ATI Driver are you using? The new ati 10.X drivers do not work has great has 9.X drivers do for 4XXX series.

Make sure both Frans.bsa and MMM.bsa are getting loaded..

Rename FraNewItems.bsa to FCOM_Convergence_Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.bsa
Rename MMM.bsa to FCOM_Convergence_Mart's Monster Mod.bsa

That will ensure both bsa get loaded with fcom.

Make Sure Better Cities to up to date has well.

corepc
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:40 am

Thanks, will implement those changes. I still can't understand why the game will run one day, and not the next without changes being made. Very weird.

EDIT:

I'm using latest drivers installed by ATI Catalyst program.

EDIT 2:

Just reinstalling the thing.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:39 pm

Well..I'm too late. But next time choose one plugin with OMOBS.. not both.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:31 pm

Well..I'm too late. But next time choose one plugin with OMOBS.. not both.


Correction to above

omobs is vanilla item
omobs si is si item

two different plugins, so they are fine this way.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:19 pm

OKay, i'm up to having ooo, frans, mmm, fcom, bob's armory, omobs, and better cities. here's my WB load order:


00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's leveled creatures-items mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
06 Better Cities Resources.esm
07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
08 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
09 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0B Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
0C Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
0E FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
0F DLCHorseArmor.esp
10 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp [Version 0.90]
11 DLCOrrery.esp
12 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
13 DLCVileLair.esp
14 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
15 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
16 DLCThievesDen.esp
17 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
18 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
19 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
1A FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1B Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
1C FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
1D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
1E OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]
1F Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
20 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
21 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
22 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
23 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
24 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
25 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
26 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
27 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
28 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
29 DLCFrostcrag.esp
2A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
2B Knights.esp
2C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
2E Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
2F Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
30 Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
31 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Short Grass V3.esp
++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
32 Better Cities Full.esp
33 Better Imperial City.esp
34 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
35 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
36 Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp
37 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

EDIT: These were all installed with WB's installer thing. I didn't use OBMM for any of it this time.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:08 am


24 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

37 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

EDIT: These were all installed with WB's installer thing. I didn't use OBMM for any of it this time.


If you are not using Body Mod then remove Zombie for Body Meshes

Remove Diverse Runeskull Loot since using OOO Version

Rebuild Patch

You did all install the required resources once again just to make sure and bsa are renamed correct.

Start a New Character and see what happens.

if ctd on startup then delete oblivion.ini located in mydocuments\mygames\ and let the game rebuild your a new one.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:14 pm

K, thanks for looking at the list again.

EDIT:

Well, i'm up and running again. Have most of what I wanted to put in there. Taking small steps. Odd thing though. When I uninstalled the game, I completely deleted the Program Files\Bethesda\Oblivion folder, which also had Wrye Bash stuff in it. I also cleaned my registry.

But when I reinstalled the game, put Bash back in there, my Bash Patch, 0.esp settings were the same, (minus a few options such as the ability to set day/night length which aren't even on the list). It also gave me a message about it removing missing plugins. So where is all this stuff saved if not in that Oblivion folder?

EDIT: Bump for response.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:05 pm

Reinstalling the bashed patch will not change the bashed patches settings, unless you install a different version. The user cannot change whether or not the bashed patch contains the timescale tweak. You have to download version XX to have that. Also, there are information files saved by Bash, OBSE, Pluggy and maybe even other apps in your save folders. You should find mod lists in each profile you have, unless the list was not generated or was reset for some reason...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:26 pm

Ah, ty.
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