I for one think this quest needs to be redone. She certainly seemed powerful and when your going into her catacombs to destroy her she practically invites you to be at her side and take skyrim over. I definitely didn't want to kill her and being the dragonborn and also siding with her would have been awesome. Come on Bethesda let me take over with her. Did anyone else think this as well?

she would have betrayed you if you tryed and bethesda whould have made a whole new world were she took over which would have been way to much work

Yeah, they let you blot out the sun in Dawnguard but not ally with Potema, heh.

This sort of thing reminds me of the old D&D days. It didn't matter what world you were playing or what the goal of the party was there was always one [censored] who wanted to play a undead and would pout if he was told no.

I didn't bother with no. I started with there is the door; don't make me Al Bundy you on the way out.

If i remember right, didn't she say that you could join her side after she would have made you part of her undead army.

You are correct, sir!

and its not like Bethesda hasn't done something like this before, after all Dagoth Ur did ask the Nerevarine to join him but it was never really an option.

Out of all things I've done in TES siding with the Potema is what I'd rather do

Note that being at her side requires your death and enthrallment. She's a psychopathic [censored] who wouldn't dare let some newbie steal her necromantic thunder.

Actually I'd rather side with Dagoth Ur then Potema, potema has always been unstable and was known to execute or assassinate anyone who stood in her way.

I think being in charge of an undead or necromatic faction would be pretty exciting. If not Potema then maybe some of her followers? It could make for an exciting quest line like the dark brotherhood with some oddball quirky characters.

Didn't she keep some trusted vampiric generals around or something. Might have been possible to work something out.

You're thinking of the Camoran Usurper, though Potema did study Necromancy to make herself powerful she never really trusted anyone who she considered alive or sentient if you prefer, which vampires kinda are in a way.

Lich freedom ring! Potema for Emerpor!

no don't actually know the first guy. Was thinking of the wolf queen. Was stated in a book that it was rumored she had vampiric generals and vampires seem to guard her tomb so I figured that confirmed the rumor. she could use undead for the bulk of her forces, but she would need someone intelligent to lead them.

Hmm its possible that she did as for a necromancy faction, I would love to have something like that but to show the positive side of Necromancy, to many people focus on the dark and evil necromancers. There are plenty of good necromancers and a faction explaining why necromancy isn't entirely evil would be nice.

Well, I bet she would kick some Thalmor but at least. Maybe get to be Empress at last.

Necromancy is for the most part evil. You are forcing the undead to be your slaves. Their is a reason most despise the dark art. Can a necromancer be good, sure but it would be like using the mace of molag bal to save an orphanage, the mace is still evil. This is why a collection of necromancers usually end up evil, because advancing their art and attempting to gain more power usually requires a lot of people to die and be enslaved.

Lol, like the priest said she would have the most legitimate claim to the throne being a septiem and all.

Since in most cases you are reanimating a corpse that the soul is no longer using I'm going to have to say not evil. Not all types of necromancy are inherently evil.

You have to bind the soul for them to be alive. Why do you think you hear thank you when a zombie is killed.

No not all necromancy is evil and not all of it is making thralls or forcing the undead to be your slaves, look at the Telvanni most of the wizard lords used necromancy and are they evil? Nope and necromancy was actually taught in the Arcane University until that arkay lover took over before Oblivion. Necromancy is a legitimate school of magic that is often treated negatively due to ignorance and stereotyping.


Actually no, not at all sometimes you can just use your magicka to use their body as a puppet, there have been necromancers who've made zombies without the need of a soul, what you're thinking of is a thrall and even so its still possible to use magicka or a white soul to control the body without the need of a black soul.


False, she would have no real claim to the throne, thats like saying if you revived a member of the Reman family that means they have a legitimate claim when they actually don't. The septim line is dead and has no authority even if one of them were revived and returned to full glory, the septims no longer rule Cyrodiil because the third empire is gone, we are in the age of the fourth empire and the Medes dynasty.

a few things
One. The telvanni were slavers so an undead slave was not much different to them. They were also very arrogant, power hungry and had little value for life. That is what made them so fun and interesting.

Two the arcane university had restrictions in place on necromancy that prevented it's abuse. One I recall was that only bodies supplied by the empire were to be used, usually criminals or traitors.

Three, pretty sure they still need a soul in the body.Think they would have to either already have the soul bonded or grab one from the soul Crain. I could be wrong on this and may need to double check, but I believe that is how it worked. Remember there is a whole arkay funeral practice that prevents the binding of souls back to the body. This is why necromancers hate arkay.

Four, the whole art of necromancy seems to revolve around souls. They create black soul gems, trap souls in undead bodies or as spirit servants and even soul trap themselves during the process of becoming liches. The whole messing with black souls is considered evil or dark for the most part.

It's because of his voice, isn't it?

I know was more of a joke. Even if she did no one would have allowed it anyway.

That voice man...That voice can get chicks and inspire men.



Actually though there were books saying the Telvanni were a major part of the slave trade there were few slaves actually in-game that belonged to the Telvanni, and even so most slaves are weak and would be poor specimens to anyone but a novice and there were Telvanni like Fyr who expanded his life span by 4000 years and used Necromancy to create instead of enslave. Thus further proving my point and while the University did have restrictions the body of Criminals and traitors is perfectly fine since most of the time they were murderers, thus a fitting punishment. Also not all Necromancer aspired to become liches, Fyr being my example again as well as several other Telvanni necromancers who lived to an old age due to necromancy and never went towards lichdom and finally the whole soul thing is more of a theory I had