Please make ESO a one time purchase like GW2. I know this has been talked about to death but paying a sub makes me feel as if i dont truly own the game and relieves the stress of having to pay a monthly fee for a video game coupled with gas money and a phone bill :/

no matter how much we pay we would never own the game ... basicly we are renting the use of thier product

While that's your opinion and you're entirely welcome and entittled to it, this is completely what YOU want and may or may not be better for the game.

Like many others though I would VERY MUCH prefer it be P2P and it would really be a point off of the game for myself if it is B2P or ESPECIALLY(though unlikely) F2P.

It's an MMO though, you're not meant to own it, only rent the right to play it.

Think they have already hinted at a sub P2P system and so they should, do you smoke or drink OP.

I don't really see why people feel the need to start new threads about the same topics, we already have several topics that this could have been posted in. I understand you think its really important but if I was a developer I would much rather read it all in one place.

just sayin'

Holy crap... I agree with you on this!

looks outside for cats and dogs falling from the sky...

LOL that was good, I enjoyed that since that was my exact reaction as well (although I was checking on the news for flying pigs...but same thing really )

no cash shop please. i don't care how cosmetic or optional it is. do not try to nickel and dime me with hats or outfits. just charge me 12-15 dollars and leave the cash shop out.

Regardless of whether or not TESO is subscription based, there will, more likely than not, still be a cash shop.

I don't really like P2P. I've never spent more then $60 in subs, because paying more then that feels like I'm being grifted.

You ARE being grifted. If it is a themepark game, where we have to rely on the developers to provide us with new meaningful content to experience, and we pay for more months without new content than we do for months that see new content released, it is a waste of money.

For sandbox games, where there is always something to do because the world reacts to player activity and nothing remains fully static, I can see paying a subscription. There's always something to do. Unless you are antisocial and never want to interact with other players, in which case you need a good single player game, not an MMO.

The only way I will ever consider a themepark MMO worth subscribing to is that for every month they get my subscription fee, I get new content...

Don't get your hopes up, fellas. It's definitely not going to be F2P or B2P.

Listen to the interviews. When asked about the business model it's all Premium Service, huge game, lots of constant updates and, again, their emphasis on how this is a premium service.
That sound f2p or B2P to you guys? Sure doesn't to me.

If anything, since some of us aren't dripping money, I'd like the subscription fee to be <$15. $15 is just ridiculous.

I never found a sandbox game that was worth paying anything to play, or even worth playing in the first place. I see a few interesting ones in the future I will give a try, but my bar is low from the few crap ones I have tried.

If you have some recommendations for any that might be good, shoot. Not Eve though, its not for me. Not a scifi space ship fan or really into playing the market.

I hope ESO goes P2P though.

I've only played one MMORPG that was B2P and that was GW2 so I am happy to pay monthly for this. I hope they have some kind of premium membership that blocks any kind of "cash shop" or any other out of game service.

Also are hoping for a P2P 15 per/mo sub for this game. Along with no cash-shop. STO and P2W burnt me right out on that style.

Ultima Online. Star Wars Galaxies.

SWG is gone, and I haven't played UO in a long time, so I don't know what it has become.

WoW came out and then the industry decided that it was the model by which every other MMO to be developed had to follow, so no real effort in the corporate MMO industry has been put towards a next gen sandbox. There's one being developed by an independent group whose kickstarter campaign was successful and it is in development now. Embers of Caerus. Another one, Arch Age... But they are several years away, so we must endure themepark MMOs for a while yet.

I WANT A SUB FREE TO PLAY IS ALWAYS BAD

this^

I've somehow been convinced that paying every month is better. I can only hope that we get it for less that $15 a month.

When I was a younger we used to meet at my buddies house and do some pencil, paper and dice D&D, he got into UO and I watched him play for a few hours every now and then. I was never really turned on to it, I think I was around 16 or 17 and was more interested in chasing around some girls and killing brain cells partying. It was 2d and just looked boring but I wasnt into gaming back than so passed it by, I would never be able to play that game now on graphics alone. I can't stand anything Star Wars to tell ya the truth, and SWG never looked interesting to me. Never really like sci fi games and still don't. No matter how good Star Citizen will be I will probably never play it. I did try SWtOR though a few months after it was out just to see what everybody was conplaining about, it made me curious.

It's like anything else. Some will like sandbox MMOs. Some won't. But there is a large number of people that think Sandbox MMOs are instant failures simply because the industry latched on to themepark MMOs starting with WoW and everyone who had a chip in the game had to play the hand Blizzard dealt and compete with them by copying them. For the better part of a decade, big named MMOs have all been themepark. And for the better part of a decade, only one has managed to not fall on its face: WoW. It doesn't matter if the combat system is revamped. It doesn't matter if all the characters are given voice acting. Themepark is themepark.

This is why I feel that TESO MUST raise the bar in content delivery. If this IS to be a subscription-based game, in the light of so many MMOs dropping the subscription model, unless they run parallel sandbox and themepark content to provide a best of both worlds solution, they are going to have to deliver content as regularly as they collect a subscription fee. This CAN be done. If they have the right tools at their disposal, if the people using those tools know how to use them with optimal efficiency, and if the suits in marketing would stop trying to run development, then creation of content could be given top priority, and then there would be a product that is always growing and branching out, and there will be fewer people wondering, "What now?"

See that is one of the big problems plaguing most themepark MMOs. They leave many people asking "What now?" because they have exhausted all the content, and the games generally don't support off-the-grid gameplay. With sandbox games, the question people find themselves asking is "NOW what?", because something is happening and they need to find out what it is.

Sandbox games do not spoonfeed players. They do not lead you by the hand from point A to B to C. They sort of trust that the audience is not stupid and are capable of exploring the world and discovering endless possibilities through activities that are not scripted. At least that has been what I have gotten out of games like UO and SWG, and I wish there was a corporate developer with the balls to take the road the industry has not traveled. But they won't. So independent developers will...

no

i dont want to play with kiddies, pay per month 25 euros and we can have classy gaming without nerd rage kiddies.

Unless they're master thief's and get a hold of their mothers credit card...

But really, I totally agree. P2P is the only way for me personally, it just has way more benefits than the other two types.

i would almost pay you 25 euros per month just to not have the kiddies be playing with p2p ...