So apparently RAGE and it's developers will not be supporting a TDM or any deathmatch in multiplayer. I personally find this to be awesome news. But anyways if you want to read it yourself heres the link.


http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fps3inside.de%2Fforum%2Fshooter%2F30482-rage-kein-deathmatch-modus-via-dlc-geplant.html

As I suspected anyway. Doesn't matter IMO . . . if the DLC is focused on extending the single player experience and they do a really good job on it that'll be a good thing. Hope they don't wait too long to let us know what's going on with it.

That's great news, I can't stand such primitive mindless gameplay as in team deathmatch..

Agree, I mean with the denouncing of a possibility for a decent MP mode. It would be too good to be true, although I still don't understand why would a company with history in a certain aspect cripple the fun factor of their own game by not providing what the gamers would like to have. Extended multiplayer mode in my opinion in an expansion or DLC for the game would promote the possibility for later sales increasing the value of a product ultimately. Not to mention the fact that they leave the opportunity for other companies to take their place in the hearts of DM-fans. Forgot the ancient war with Epic Games and Unreal Tournament? Eh well, too bad, they could actually improve their current DeathMatch peak in Quake 4 with the new engine, but no, we should play Carmageddon, at least if we could leave the buggies in arena-like maps...

Its great news that no TDM will be in Rage? Yeah if by great news you mean its GREAT that the game continues to fail in the marketplace. Just because YOU don't like TDM doesn't mean that it shouldn't be in a FIRST PERSON SHOOOOOTER!!!! In order for a game to be successful, it has to compete against its competitors and by limiting the game modes to SP and Rally Racing, Rage will never expand its audience.

If you were a Bethesda shareholder...this news wouldn't make you happy.

Bottom line....after 5 years in development, it came down to the 11th hour and no real multiplayer mode was ready to go, so laziness won the battle and rally racing was put in.

And I love your "primitive and mindless" statement. If anything is primitive and mindless - it is single player, sitting there on the couch with your mouth hanging open just aimlessly completing quests like an errand boy. Team Death Match is like playing chess, it involves strategy and skill...something SP players don't have. In REAL multiplayer....you have to use strategy and skill to gain control of key areas, you have to know the maps like the back of your hand, you have to outwit your opponents....How hard is it to outwit a BOT? Your statement speaks for itself....and it speaks for the people who agree with you.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...its inclusionists against segregationists. I want all kinds of modes included to accommodate all types of players, you want segregation to keep different types of players on other games.

Most game forum people are so funny and absurd, misinformed and non-representative of real gamers. All the data backs it up.

1. that was his opinion that was great news.
2. What is wrong with rally racing it's fun and different.
3. FPS multiplayer IS mindless and primitive it goes like this: bang dead, bang dead and bang you got shot, oh and REAL multiplayer is not cod or battlefield it's MMOs like WOW or startcraft.
4.IMO you are one whiney brat that needs to shut up, we get that you want so called "REAL multiplayer" but guess what most people here don't want it.

why did you buy RAGE knowing it had no TDM? seeing how you have such a hard on for TDM...


^^ you said this... (sounds like you... all the data backs it up )

why are you trying to get a TDM added to RAGE? there are umpteen games out there with TDM. why RAGE?

Gave up trying to get TDM added to Rage over a year ago...just pointing out that it is a stupid decision. And if you look at my thread called "I want REAL Multiplayer" the majority of forum posters voted in my poll and agreed with me.

I thought ciaranconnolly "bang dead, bang dead" statement is hillarious....I'd like to see ciaranconnolly stand infront of a group of MLG pros or World Championship gamers and tell them how mindless and primitive MP/TDM is. The "bang dead, bang dead" description fits single player - bot killing modes...TDM requires so much more thought and skill than bot killing in SP. If ciaranconnolly 's TDM experience is simply "bang dead" that says alot.

I need to start putting this link in my bio. If you want to see the multiplayer debate and how it unfolded here on the forums, check this out. Was the most viewed thread and most replied. Was shut down because it reached its maximum post limit--not because of argueing.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1214579-i-want-real-multiplayer/page__st__180__p__18585720__fromsearch__1#entry18585720

I can't believe i have to say this yet again, but, look at the 2007 tech demo.
Aside from megatexture and what it allows artists to do, what was the other key part of the presentation? RACING
This game always planned on having racing- always.
As a "real" gamer, you should have known this.

You call yourself an inclusionist, but you're actually denouncing the game modes that they did put in.
Funny, innit?

And on the whole shareholder bit.
I am pretty sure that ZeniMax is not a publicly traded company, but if they were Bethesda as a publisher and Id as a subsidiary would only make up a very minute amount of their business as a whole.

that statement is more opinionated then anything. i could say the opposite ....

all in all you come off looking like a [censored] crying for TDM in a game focused on campaign.
like i said before why buy rage knowing there was no TDM?

and why bother wasting time trolling forums demanding TDM knowing it wont happen?

Who is the troll? No where in any post I've made will you find the words "I demand TDM" or TDM must be put in...Heck, you can't even find me saying that "Put TDM in Rage"...What you will find me saying is somewhere along the lines of..."Rage is a fail....Rage should have had TDM in it." So, stop putting words in my mouth. Its Id's loss not to have TDM in Rage...its not going to happen so why care. I'm simply expressing an opinion that the majority of people on these forums expressed when they voted in my poll. your side lost the argument against TDM. And i posted on this thread because I was horrified that people actually exist who think it is a GOOD thing not to have TDM DLC in Rage. Thats all....

Why bother responding to me? Why do you care what I think? Does it upset you so much that an Id fan is pointing out an obvious blunder that the majority of the community agreed with me?

On an even more obvious note...nobody in their right mind believes that SP takes more skill than MP. Competing against BOTS takes more skill than real people???? So laughable...that is not an opinion its fact. why do MLG players play other humans to compete and not bots? This is just a dumb argument to have.

So, your telling me that when i played Dead City, for example, in Rage, and completed it on nightmare, that I was using strategy and a high level of skill to kill mutants? Well, then....that says it all.

sounds to me like your putting those words in your own mouth...

It sounds??? How about that is your interpretation? If that is the best your reply offers all I can say is 2 things. you can't refute my argument and 2 I win.

:foodndrink:

you said rage should have had TDM and all your post state how they should have had tdm or they failed cuz no tdm, yadda yadda.

How would you like anyone to take that? it does sound like you want tdm in rage.... am i wrong?

how would you like me to read this? that you aren't or weren't 'demanding tdm added to rage...

Wanted....not want...i know how games are made. If they didn't put it in and it is not on the DLC list, it won't happen. And again...never said "I demand"...you need to learn how to read. I would love to see them put it in...but at this point it is too late, coupled with the FAILED release date up against GOW3, BF3, MW3 and Skyrim the game was D.O.A. You can read my opinion in depth here...

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1214579-i-want-real-multiplayer/page__st__180__p__18585720__fromsearch__1#entry18585720

DEMAND:
1. to ask for with proper authority; claim as a right: He demanded payment of the debt.
2. to ask for peremptorily or urgently: He demanded sanctuary. She demanded that we let her in.
3. to call for or require as just, proper, or necessary: This task demands patience. justice demands objectivity.

you may have not used the word demand.....

1) Team Death Match is like playing chess . . . . wrong
2) it involves strategy and skill . . . . . . . . . . . . . .weak - no strategy - it's straightforward run'n'gun , skill maybe - because controller skill and reflexes are needed
3) something SP players don't have . . . . . . . . . stupid thing to say

I don't have proper authority....I don't claim that TDM is a right that gamers have to be put in games.....I never asked for TDM to be put in the game. I said I wanted it or it should have been in the game...you fail. Stop while you are ahead, sorry I meant...stop while you are behind. And once again, just as a reminder, the voting majority on this forum agreed with me.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1214579-i-want-real-multiplayer/page__st__180__p__18585720__fromsearch__1#entry18585720

You guys are straying off topic...instead of attacking me, you should be posting about DLC. TDM is not happening, I'm sad for Id...end of discussion. But feel free to keep attacking my facts and views so that hopefully a moderator will see how much you hate on me. go attack all the people that voted pro-TDM on my thread....I guess they are as wrong as I am.

Lastly, TDM IS like playing chess...in your mind its run and gun - kill, kill, die, kill...In the minds of competitive gamers it involves a study of the map and environment and just like chess....you have to be thinking many steps in advance in order to survive and be victorious. It involves an understanding of the weapons, hit perception, online connectivity, maybe best camping areas or vantage points, pinch points....its involves much more planning and advance thought in combination with skill than it takes to understand how AI BOTS are going to react which is the same every time you encounter them. Human thinking is far more complex than AI Bots in a video game and you have to out-think the opponents...sounds like chess on a digital scale to me...

NX1000 the fact that RAGE will not be supporting deathmatch has nothing to do with a release date relevance, nor does your depth perception which was actually funny compared to other things I've read. :thumbsdown:


Actually if you had payed attention and followed you would have possibly understood that one of the biggest focus' around the game was to get away from all of that in general. Multiplayer and achievements/trophies have completely re-invented games and developers alike. TDM has surely found it's way into almost every single multiplayer game lately and it's tiring. And I'll say this now, the following is my OPINION... but would anyone actually go back to playing old games with the same determination and focus that they had back when sega cd with the the 32x hooked into the console was the system to have? [censored] no. Opinion over. RAGE brought to light a beautiful enviroment, with vast areas to grow and honestly, despite no epic boss battle or whatever most people are crying about, one of the better campaigns I've played in the last few years. And I mean as far as, a game with multiplayer as well. Again my opinion. I'm open to criticism from anyone but I'm tired of all this lame gibberish that people like you "NX1000" carelessly just throw around the internet. Whoever called you a troll should be given a [censored] medal. SOMEBODY GET THAT GUY A MEDAL.

Love and hugs....majority of posters agreed with me.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1214579-i-want-real-multiplayer/page__st__180__p__18585720__fromsearch__1#entry18585720

I guess they are all trolls too for believing as I do.

Its funny that nobody can refute my argument. You guys attack me instead of my argument. all I have said here is that I am horrified that people believe that no TDM DLC is a good thing.

U Mad Bro?

I am not mad at all, because there is no TDM, which means they were able to focus on a campaign lasting more than 2 hours.

you?

You are a an absolute joke, I KNEW it was you as I skim through your nonsense and contradicting bullsh!t. Odessa_Z, the no life keyboard warrior, for those that dont know this guy he was the nuisance that plagued the Dead Space 2 forums. Had a long lasting fight over the fact that he DID NOT want a "horde mode" in Dead Space 2 similar to The Mercenaries in Resident Evil 5. This guy directly attacked anyone who liked the idea and agreed with having it added to the game. Used the same points to make a case, "multiplayer takes real skill blah blah bot killing is for noobz". A person who obviously takes gaming way too serious as if he has nothing else to do in his life but "pwn noobzzzz".

I find it very funny to first see you try your damn near hardest to make sure a certain mode was not added to a Dead Space THEN find you acting like a lil kid again throwing fits to see death match added to Rage. You are a clown, a low down worthless person that needs to grow up and stop looking for net arguements to pick with other gamers that may not agree with what you like/think/want/demand.

He is a "troll", always has been, forever ever will be and it doesnt matter where so long as there are threads to post in he will be there, count on it. And word of advice to anyone else that has to deal with this loser, dont flame him too bad he will claim his military background how he served his country and demand respect.

No deathmatch or TDM, personnaly i don't care...i play quakelive for this

But if ID can put some Co-op (with cars and gun fight) and something like a Mutant bash TV online. i will be really happy.

It's bad news for me. Playing against humans is very very difficult. There is no run and gun, skill and anticipation complement each other.
SP has become boring for me with its funny nightmarish mode!
But to enrage you a bit NX1000 I want horde mode hahaha I am kidding. Really that would have been a consolation for TDM.

Id should learn from DICE and their success with TDM even though i don't like BF3. 5 million copies sold in a week and counting.
I know Id wanted a change but you gotta at least stick to the things that made you successful. There was nothing wrong with Quake brilliant SP and even better TDM!!