Random BSOD blue screen of death FNW 1.1.1.2711

Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:09 am

Hi to all.. in a single day i had more than 25 BOSD while trying different combinations of what other suggested on this and other forums with no luck. i will try to be brief as possible and explain the problem.

First .. i had never ever ever ever ever had a blue screen of death before while playing a game only with fallout new vegas.. and in a last year i think i played every mayor title without any mayor issue what so ever.

i install the game and start it .. all good... conversation with doctor good... no freezes no glitches no nothing .. great frame rate and sound and all... Now..
just after i got out of doctor house, down on the street i saw the VICTOR robot and i start the conversation first time i manage to speak with him until that question Do you know who were those people... and then BOSD.
Now the freaking BOSD is occurring in RANDOM between 3 and 10 mins no mater what i do.


System spec
Win 7 64
AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual core 3600+ 2.03 GHz
ASROCK ALIVE SATA2 GLAN
G skill 3,00 GB RAM
ASUS 8800 GT 512 RAM


Game version according to FalloutNV is 1.1.1.271


All game settings Set to Medium
resolution 1920x1200
All water and shadows set to LOW
All save game options in game settings set to OFF
Ingame Vertical sync set to OFF
Nvidia control panel Vertical Sync FORCED OFF



this is what i did today :brokencomputer:
1. Format and clean install of Windows 7 not working
2. d3d9dll fix is not working for me
3. changing ingame resolution and quality options from all ranges from low to high .. not working
4. Updating Nvidia drivers 260.89_desktop_win7 not working
5. Updating to Nvidia drivers 260.99_desktop_win7 not working
6. Updating my REALTEK soundcard to last Ver. R253 not working
7. Updating all windows 7 x64 not working
8. Updating Direct X not working
9. Disabling AM2 Boost in BIOS not working
10. Downgrading nvidia drivers to 195.45 not working
11. Setting FalloutNVLauncher and FalloutNV with Windows XP service pack 3 compatibility not working

Now at the moment the only thing that occurs to me is
NOTTHING.. maybe something tomorow

pd. ah .. here is a BOSD picture if anyone wants to see it
its to big to post it as IMG so i will just link it
http://i52.tinypic.com/121ehk8.jpg
and as you all can se it says NVLDDMKM.sys
Thanx in advance
Tindrli
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:19 pm

As I've said in a few other threads, it looks like people with 8800's and 9800's are having this problem. Myself included.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:03 pm

As I've said in a few other threads, it looks like people with 8800's and 9800's are having this problem. Myself included.



uffffffff :brokencomputer: did you manage to figure out something.. anything???

a friend on no mutants allowed point me toward this link and its well worth of trying.. chek it out if you have regedit experience.. and if not DONT DO IT!!!!!
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/wddm_timeout.mspx
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:04 am

As I've said in a few other threads, it looks like people with 8800's and 9800's are having this problem. Myself included.



I have a GTX 220, and i have a similar problem.

I haven't heard anything approximating a solid explanation of why this is happening. I'm sure by 2011, we'll know more.
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Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:27 am

I have a GTX 220, and i have a similar problem.

I haven't heard anything approximating a solid explanation of why this is happening. I'm sure by 2011, we'll know more.


Clean installs are a must w/ drivers. I know there is an option for clean install w/ the nvidia drivers but I don't trust them. I use guru3d driver sweeper in safe mode after I uninstall the drivers in win7 to clean out any residual files/reg entries; and then I reboot into win7 and install the new drivers.

I hope this helps
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:36 am

Clean installs are a must w/ drivers. I know there is an option for clean install w/ the nvidia drivers but I don't trust them. I use guru3d driver sweeper in safe mode after I uninstall the drivers in win7 to clean out any residual files/reg entries; and then I reboot into win7 and install the new drivers.

I hope this helps


i used Driver cleaner Pro in my case .. in safe mode as well but no luck for me
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Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:13 am

Ok, i just get back from work and have a little bit of time before my wife take control of computer so todays ideas for solving BOSD are:

1. try mobcks suggestion THANX M8

googling "nvlddmkm.sys bsod windows 7" came up with a few interesting forum threads.

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/9297-windows-7-rc-nvlddmkm-sys-bsod.html

reading that led me to

http://forums.amd.com/devforum/messageview.cfm?FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Threaded&catid=328&threadid=100142



2. Seems that a some of people on other forums as well are mentioning that 8800 and 9800 series graphic cards are having problems with overheating especially on Vista/Windows 7 OS so its bothering me a lot and then idea is to install some kind of Benchmark and GPU stress test software to see if i can manage to repeat the damn BSOD error wile not playing FNW. and if u suceeed then its defenetly a Graphic card issue and not FNW.
Also i saw that there are certain Overclockers apps for Nvidia graphic cards where you can , among other things set up the GPU FAN SPEED, and i think i will try to raise it if the first thing fail..

3. and im considering to downgrade my OS back to Win XP but i think that will be the last thing to try

Ok .. thankx for reading.. i will report as soon as i have something to report
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:43 pm

Ok, i just get back from work and have a little bit of time before my wife take control of computer so todays ideas for solving BOSD are:

1. try mobcks suggestion THANX M8



2. Seems that a some of people on other forums as well are mentioning that 8800 and 9800 series graphic cards are having problems with overheating especially on Vista/Windows 7 OS so its bothering me a lot and then idea is to install some kind of Benchmark and GPU stress test software to see if i can manage to repeat the damn BSOD error wile not playing FNW. and if u suceeed then its defenetly a Graphic card issue and not FNW.
Also i saw that there are certain Overclockers apps for Nvidia graphic cards where you can , among other things set up the GPU FAN SPEED, and i think i will try to raise it if the first thing fail..

3. and im considering to downgrade my OS back to Win XP but i think that will be the last thing to try

Ok .. thankx for reading.. i will report as soon as i have something to report



Maybe not go to windows XP. I'm using XP SP3 right now, and I'm having many of your problems as well. Thought I'd at least maybe save you some grief on that front...:) I also used NVidia's temp system to check my 220 card. It's not overheating during play at all. I'm completely stumped! Audio and video driver changes may still be the key to all of the perpetual system crashes, but so far, I haven't any idea why or how that can be dealt with. I just flat out ran out of ideas.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:10 pm

Maybe not go to windows XP. I'm using XP SP3 right now, and I'm having many of your problems as well. Thought I'd at least maybe save you some grief on that front...:) I also used NVidia's temp system to check my 220 card. It's not overheating during play at all. I'm completely stumped! Audio and video driver changes may still be the key to all of the perpetual system crashes, but so far, I haven't any idea why or how that can be dealt with. I just flat out ran out of ideas.




did you try to read and study a little bit the link that mobck suggested????

if i understud correctly there is an option in Nvidia to tell it to wait a little bit more before hang or die
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:16 pm

i tryed two programs

1. GPU-Z 0.4.7 and it doesnt say current temperature of my GPU
2, FurMark v1.8.0. and My Graph card DID survive the benchmark but still NO TEMPERATURE showing.. i wonder how the hell it doesnt have sensors for temperature
Here is a pic from the results
http://i53.tinypic.com/2e3pz53.jpg

Now i will try Stress Test :flamethrower: wish me luck
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Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:47 am

I don't know how hardware acceleration is set-up in Win7, but the BSODs I was getting with my 9800GTX+ 512 in Win XP pro were solved by lowering hardware sound acceleration to 'basic' through dxdiag or the control panel.
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Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:06 am

I don't know how hardware acceleration is set-up in Win7, but the BSODs I was getting with my 9800GTX+ 512 in Win XP pro were solved by lowering hardware sound acceleration to 'basic' through dxdiag or the control panel.



to tell you the truth i was think about lowering hardware sound acceleration in dxdiag since it would not be a first time.. for example i did it in assasins creed coz i had sound problems but in FNW my sound is perfect!!!



well.. i did basic Stability test in FurMark with these settings
http://i53.tinypic.com/2zg6muh.jpg
and it went good .. all good.. i stopped the test 10 minutes after the start

and then i did the same one exept i turn on all options like
-Extreme Burning mode
-Displacement mapping
MSAA samples X16


and after 4 or 5 minutes the DAMN BOSD appeared :brokencomputer: same one as in FNW :banghead:

so its getting cleared.. it defenetly has to do something about overheating at least in my case ... dont know.. what do you people think??
and another strange thing is that i cant read the temperature of my GPU.. does anyone knows any software that can read GPU temp on ASUS NVIDIA 8800 GT 512 MB????
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:15 pm

to tell you the truth i was think about lowering hardware sound acceleration in dxdiag since it would not be a first time.. for example i did it in assasins creed coz i had sound problems but in FNW my sound is perfect!!!



well.. i did basic Stability test in FurMark with these settings
http://i53.tinypic.com/2zg6muh.jpg
and it went good .. all good.. i stopped the test 10 minutes after the start

and then i did the same one exept i turn on all options like
-Extreme Burning mode
-Displacement mapping
MSAA samples X16


and after 4 or 5 minutes the DAMN BOSD appeared :brokencomputer: same one as in FNW :banghead:

so its getting cleared.. it defenetly has to do something about overheating at least in my case ... dont know.. what do you people think??
and another strange thing is that i cant read the temperature of my GPU.. does anyone knows any software that can read GPU temp on ASUS NVIDIA 8800 GT 512 MB????



You'll destroy your card running Furmark without being able to monitor temps. Furmark puts an obscene, unrealistic load on your video card. It can be useful for stress testing. Anyways Rivatuner or GPU-z should work fine for monitoring temps.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:01 pm

You'll destroy your card running Furmark without being able to monitor temps. Furmark puts an obscene, unrealistic load on your video card. It can be useful for stress testing. Anyways Rivatuner or GPU-z should work fine for monitoring temps.


thanx for advice regard FurMark but i just don't understand how GPU-Z doesn't show the temperature.. can it be that my graphic card dont have temperature sensors???
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:44 pm

Try using blue screen viewer, it reads the windows minidumps and i.ds the offending file. Not sure if it works in 7 as i still run xp =)
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Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:34 am

to tell you the truth i was think about lowering hardware sound acceleration in dxdiag since it would not be a first time.. for example i did it in assasins creed coz i had sound problems but in FNW my sound is perfect!!!


Does that mean you're not going to try lowering sound acceleration? My sound was perfect too, but I was getting BSOD's and running out of ideas. Try it.

To be honest I didn't notice any difference in New Vegas between basic acceleration and full,

Except for the fact that my BSOD's stopped of course.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:30 pm

Does that mean you're not going to try lowering sound acceleration? My sound was perfect too, but I was getting BSOD's and running out of ideas. Try it.


To be honest I didn't notice any difference in New Vegas between basic acceleration and full,

Except for the fact that my BSOD's stopped of course.


I will do it right now thank you for advice

Try using blue screen viewer, it reads the windows minidumps and i.ds the offending file. Not sure if it works in 7 as i still run xp =)

this is an image of Blue screen viewer and those three are always the same no mater what version of drivers i use
http://i56.tinypic.com/314v634.jpg
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:56 pm

C**P the seems to removed sound hardware accereration from DXDIAG in windows 7.. does anyone knows where is this sound hardware acceleration??
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:16 pm

thanx for advice regard FurMark but i just don't understand how GPU-Z doesn't show the temperature.. can it be that my graphic card dont have temperature sensors???


Honestly, to me that is the sign of a problem. Sounds like a bad driver install of something is corrupted. I would start by installing your display driver and doing a fresh install of the latest Nvidia WHQL driver and see if you can at least see your temperature sensors in GPU-Z.

I keep Rivatuner installed at all times just for D3DOverrider and the OSD anyways so that might be worth a shot.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:14 pm

Honestly, to me that is the sign of a problem. Sounds like a bad driver install of something is corrupted. I would start by installing your display driver and doing a fresh install of the latest Nvidia WHQL driver and see if you can at least see your temperature sensors in GPU-Z.

I keep Rivatuner installed at all times just for D3DOverrider and the OSD anyways so that might be worth a shot.



i tryed that.. i uninstalled the old 197 drivers and clean them in safe mode with this driver cleaner pro app.. and i install again the last WHQL from nvidia and notthing.. the GPU-Z is not showing GPU temperature :brokencomputer:
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:32 pm

C**P the seems to removed sound hardware accereration from DXDIAG in windows 7.. does anyone knows where is this sound hardware acceleration??



I don't think those exist anymore in windows 7.
Closest you can get if you right click on your speaker icon, and choose playback devices, there you can fiddle with it further.
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Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:17 am

I have had the same problem (Random BSOD).

Amonst the various other more minor crashes the game has blue screened my pc twice, both while having conversations with people.

There talking and then the game locks up (except for the mouse) attempts to tab or cntr-alt-del into windows fail. After about 5 mins the computer goes into blue screen =(

Last time my pc blue screened I had to repair my raid system drive becuase it would no longer boot =o

It may be relevent that I do not have an Nvidia graphic card.

Windows 7 64
Q6600 Quad 2.4gHz
ATI radion 4800 series
4GB

I have updated to latest version of game, no blue screens as of yet but time will tell.
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Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:51 am

I GOT IT!!!!!!! I GOT IT!!!!!!

at least for tonight.. its now 1:18 A.M. and i played since 21:00 without any crash or damn BOSD .. NOTTHING..and i dont know what exactly i did but here is all what i did.

1.i did a clean i install of newest nvidia drivers (used a driver cleaner pro in safe mode)
2. i took out my graphic card completely unscew the fan.. it was all good and i couldn't separate a passive fan from the GPU so i said to my self , dont be stupid there is nothing wrong with your card (the guy from the hardware store today told me that maybe just maybe the passive fan has separated a little bit from the GPU and its not cooling enough.. anyway .. i put basic all screws and return the card .. close it.
3. i took that TDR fix, the same one that didnt worked this afternoon with value of 20 and i execute the 60 version
4. i took that famos DLL fix that never worked and i copyed it to FNW folder
5. i run up the game and left all as it was detected by FIX and just turn off vertical sync.

AND THE GAME WORKS!!!!!!!! .. HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ... SO it was not overheating!!!!!!! or at least i dont think it was... duno to tell you people the truth.. im cleaning the Primm village



p.d. I really hope that i will be able to play it tomorrow and if i dont report means that it all works!!!!

THANK YOU ALL for suggestions and support
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Post » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:16 am

Hi everyone, i have had BSOD over 6 times now trying many different things. one thing i have noticed every time it happens is there is no error report that pops up saying your computer has been restarted to prevent potential damage from a blue screen of death. at 10pm i updated my 8600 gt nvidia graphics card and to no avail i crashed with was the 6th time. i am lost on what to do and would like some assistance to stop this because my computer for sure can run this game on a p4 3.60 ghz dual core with 2 gigs of ram. and nether get taxed peek usage of my ram has been about 75% and cpu moved from 50% to peeking 85% while loading certain things. if anyone could add some helpful hints to me i would love it becouse i enjoy everything about FNV.
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Post » Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:39 pm

Hi everyone, i have had BSOD over 6 times now trying many different things. one thing i have noticed every time it happens is there is no error report that pops up saying your computer has been restarted to prevent potential damage from a blue screen of death. at 10pm i updated my 8600 gt nvidia graphics card and to no avail i crashed with was the 6th time. i am lost on what to do and would like some assistance to stop this because my computer for sure can run this game on a p4 3.60 ghz dual core with 2 gigs of ram. and nether get taxed peek usage of my ram has been about 75% and cpu moved from 50% to peeking 85% while loading certain things. if anyone could add some helpful hints to me i would love it becouse i enjoy everything about FNV.


do you use windows XP or win 7?? did you tweak any services???
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