Random vampire attacks #3 : V

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:30 am

Might as well get this one up and ready....don't think problem going away anytime soon
Thread #1 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1390060-random-vampire-attacks-merged-similar-topics/
Thread #2 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1390477-random-vampire-attacks-2-merged-similar-topics/

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:08 am

They dont happen too often, i play like always and nobody has died
i can only see this as a ''problem'' for people that uses thief skills only + robes + dagger on master and 100 hp (full stamina) and no shadow warrior perk

maybe they should make them spawn almost next to you if you are near cities without walls

(and avoid fast traveling from riften to dragonsreach :tongue:

, always the gates)

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:10 am

iv found more newer threads about vampire attacks, someone claimed that too many people were killed in their game by the vampire attacks and had to start a new game.. losing almost 100 hours of game type. i have lost about 20 hours because of these attacks but my character is 287 hours so it isnt a huge blow..

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:59 am

So far I've read different post and have noticed a few things going on.

1. When they enter cities(especially at night) the vampires are attacking.
2. When playing on master difficulty the vampires kill people seemingly easily.

I personally don't see a huge problem with what is going on, none of my cities are ghost towns, I save all my npc's aside from one or two. It's not as if the vampires are traveling in hordes or anything :/

Anyways, if it is truly that difficult for people then why not take it off Master? Why not travel to the outside of the city and then enter? Why not wait till day break/mid afternoon when the vampires are at there weakest?

Save Save Save

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:44 am

Apparently they can attack outside the city after having just fought them inside it. 2 reports now of the Whiterun stable boy and his horse being eaten by Death Hounds before the player can save him. Starting to feel like a breaking news report now. This just in!

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:32 am

So far I've read different post and have noticed a few things going on.

1. When they enter cities(especially at night) the vampires are attacking.
2. When playing on master difficulty the vampires kill people seemingly easily.

I personally don't see a huge problem with what is going on, none of my cities are ghost towns, I save all my npc's aside from one or two. It's not as if the vampires are traveling in hordes or anything :/

Anyways, if it is truly that difficult for people then why not take it off Master? Why not travel to the outside of the city and then enter? Why not wait till day break/mid afternoon when the vampires are at there weakest?

Save Save Save

its simple, doing any of what you just listed doesnt really make a difference, even on novice vampires are able to destroy npc's in some peoples games...

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:16 pm

Apparently they can attack outside the city after having just fought them inside it. 2 reports now of the Whiterun stable boy and his horse being eaten by Death Hounds before the player can save him. Starting to feel like a breaking news report now. This just in!

yep thats what happened in my game, had to reload more than 10 times to try and save them, still didnt work so i reloaded to an even earlier save

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:08 am

You can always load.
and sometimes things must happen without you having to do everything, you are a guy in a 'open world', not a god
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If they are atacking outside whiterun it was either a bug, or they just followed a npc. Doesnt happen always

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:19 am

No game should punish you for its mistake. Reloading should only take place because of a players mistake. That is my philosophy anyway.

Same with changing difficulty but like said, that doesn't make a huge lot of difference to a granny VS a vampire lord anyway.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:09 am

I just find it interesting that quite a few people are not having any problems what so ever while others are in apparent chaos. Which makes me wonder what is really going on.

Am I getting the short end of the stick with the Vampire attacks? I would gladly trade my daily attacks for unfathomable attacks that wipe out whole cities and turn them into ghost towns. I feel Dawnguard added some content and upped the excitement a bit, but after hearing all these people talk about fire and brimstone in their games making it completely unplayable. I am beginning to wonder where mine is at.

I feel short changed if this is indeed true. More Vanpire Attacks!

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:46 pm

To anyone saying take the difficulty off of master, listen. On master, npcs have the most resilancy, keeping them alive longer (if at all) then they would be on novice.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:15 am

So far I've read different post and have noticed a few things going on.

1. When they enter cities(especially at night) the vampires are attacking.
2. When playing on master difficulty the vampires kill people seemingly easily.

I personally don't see a huge problem with what is going on, none of my cities are ghost towns, I save all my npc's aside from one or two. It's not as if the vampires are traveling in hordes or anything :/

Anyways, if it is truly that difficult for people then why not take it off Master? Why not travel to the outside of the city and then enter? Why not wait till day break/mid afternoon when the vampires are at there weakest?

Save Save Save

As long as you are in the cell, and there are other NPCs "living" in this cell vampires can attack.

You can run by an orc stronghold, and it can be attacked even if you never enter it. You can run near Falkreath, never enter it, and it can be attacked. You can run by Merryweather farm in Riften, and it will be attacked.

I just find it interesting that quite a few people are not having any problems what so ever while others are in apparent chaos. Which makes me wonder what is really going on.

Am I getting the short end of the stick with the Vampire attacks? I would gladly trade my daily attacks for unfathomable attacks that wipe out whole cities and turn them into ghost towns. I feel Dawnguard added some content and upped the excitement a bit, but after hearing all these people talk about fire and brimstone in their games making it completely unplayable. I am beginning to wonder where mine is at.

I feel short changed if this is indeed true. More Vanpire Attacks!

Start searching the areas you passed by but never entered, see who's missing.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:09 am

I just find it interesting that quite a few people are not having any problems what so ever while others are in apparent chaos. Which makes me wonder what is really going on.

Am I getting the short end of the stick with the Vampire attacks? I would gladly trade my daily attacks for unfathomable attacks that wipe out whole cities and turn them into ghost towns. I feel Dawnguard added some content and upped the excitement a bit, but after hearing all these people talk about fire and brimstone in their games making it completely unplayable. I am beginning to wonder where mine is at.

I feel short changed if this is indeed true. More Vanpire Attacks!

In a nut shell, some like towns, outposts, cities, farms ect.. being devoid of all life (except for children) and others do not.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:49 am

As long as you are in the cell, and there are other NPCs "living" in this cell vampires can attack.

You can run by an orc stronghold, and it can be attacked even if you never enter it. You can run near Falkreath, never enter it, and it can be attacked. You can run by Merryweather farm in Riften, and it will be attacked.

Start searching the areas you passed by but never entered, see who's missing.

he will soon find out that everyones missing lol, then he wont want 'more' vampire attacks...

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:11 am

No game should punish you for its mistake. Reloading should only take place because of a players mistake. That is my philosophy anyway.

Same with changing difficulty but like said, that doesn't make a huge lot of difference to a granny VS a vampire lord anyway.

Bugs are almost always present in big games, i have yet to see an atack inside the city and a few dogs killing ppl outside

Im sure that some people overreact, when you dont like something you just see the 'bad' side and feel the need to ''warn'' other people about it.
That obviously gives the others who have not played the DLC yet (or are not too far into) a bad impression.

The only reason why there are only negative threads about this subjects its because the ones that like it just dont make too much noise, they dont feel the need to create a thread and say ''I love the vampire atacks because ....''

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:29 am

I would like to get rid of all the children, countless times have I shot them and
bludgeoned them to death with blows that would fell the mightiest dragon only to have the little snots run away and sick the guards on me.

he will soon find out that everyones missing lol, then he wont want 'more' vampire attacks...

what are the vampires going to do? kill my unkillable fences in the thieves guild? I'm shaking in my dragon scale boots :devil:

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:03 am

I just find it interesting that quite a few people are not having any problems what so ever while others are in apparent chaos. Which makes me wonder what is really going on.

Am I getting the short end of the stick with the Vampire attacks? I would gladly trade my daily attacks for unfathomable attacks that wipe out whole cities and turn them into ghost towns. I feel Dawnguard added some content and upped the excitement a bit, but after hearing all these people talk about fire and brimstone in their games making it completely unplayable. I am beginning to wonder where mine is at.

I feel short changed if this is indeed true. More Vanpire Attacks!

The bigger problem, in my opinion, is that they automatically start at lvl 10 (or earlier) and they'll never stop as long as you have Dg installed

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:54 am

Bugs are almost always present in big games, i have yet to see an atack inside the city and a few dogs killing ppl outside

Im sure that some people overreact, when you dont like something you just see the 'bad' side and feel the need to ''warn'' other people about it.
That obviously gives the others who have not played the DLC yet (or are not too far into) a bad impression.

The only reason why there are only negative threads about this subjects its because the ones that like it just dont make too much noise, they dont feel the need to create a thread and say ''I love the vampire atacks because ....''

complaining about a potentially game breaking feature is not over reacting, the fact that these vampires can kill without your knowledge and dont stop even if you finish the dlc is a good reason to complain about it

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:18 am

I often wondered if the world of skyrim persist without my being in that particular area, and am rather glad to find out that it does. If anything I would like it to eventually take a turn like Fable and be able to take over all the shops, maybe hire my own shop keepers and eventually own every town and house and make millions!

keep em coming vampires.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:26 am

Without a poll or a post where you'd make a list of suggestions lots of people gave like myself and many others... there is no point in creating these threads. I'm against Vampire attacks in cities, but threads like this are getting annoying without polls or a list. Do take that in mind people :smile:

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:31 pm

Im sure that some people overreact, when you dont like something you just see the 'bad' side and feel the need to ''warn'' other people about it.
That obviously gives the others who have not played the DLC yet (or are not too far into) a bad impression.

An impression that is deserved this time around. I used to think that dragons attacking in walled cities or attacking in pairs in the wilderness was a myth - until I started experiencing these kinds of attacks myself. It'd be utterly foolish to dismiss the problems people are reporting with the vampire attacks.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:49 pm

Bugs are almost always present in big games, i have yet to see an atack inside the city and a few dogs killing ppl outside

Im sure that some people overreact, when you dont like something you just see the 'bad' side and feel the need to ''warn'' other people about it.
That obviously gives the others who have not played the DLC yet (or are not too far into) a bad impression.

The only reason why there are only negative threads about this subjects its because the ones that like it just dont make too much noise, they dont feel the need to create a thread and say ''I love the vampire atacks because ....''

This is about the endless attacks, the fact you might not always know who is getting killed or where and even if you do, if you can get to them in time and what happens over time if this keeps happening?

When I say the game is punishing people, I mean the people who do not like the NPC's getting ripped apart by vampires but their is little they can do to stop it without uninstalling the DLC and just because it hasn't happened to you yet (lucky you btw) doesn't mean it isn't happening. I think the number of threads (not just here, google it) about it in the 4 days its been out shows that.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:30 am

There are 2 main types of players in threads like this:

1. Those who belive that this its a game breaking event that will bring the end of times in skyrim due to ghost towns

2. Those who have lost 0 or few npcs (they could have loaded to save them)

You cant say that its gamebreaking if there is a lot of ppl that dont have problems with it.
And of course nobody can say that its perfect if there is people with a game full of ghost towns (i dont know how that can happen)

Im sure that is a step in the right direction, a world with events that have some impact its something that any rpg must have.
(DV, DB, Guilds....)

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:17 am

2. Those who have lost 0 or few npcs (they could have loaded to save them)

You cant say that its gamebreaking if there is a lot of ppl that dont have problems with it.
And of course nobody can say that its perfect if there is people with a game full of ghost towns (i dont know how that can happen)

So I am supposed to reload because I didn't know Falkreath got destroyed by vampires that I didn't even know where there...right...

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:35 pm

There are 2 main types of players in threads like this:

1. Those who belive that this its a game breaking event that will bring the end of times in skyrim due to ghost towns

2. Those who have lost 0 or few npcs (they could have loaded to save them)

You cant say that its gamebreaking if there is a lot of ppl that dont have problems with it.
And of course nobody can say that its perfect if there is people with a game full of ghost towns (i dont know how that can happen)

Im sure that is a step in the right direction, a world with events that have some impact its something that any rpg must have.
(DV, DB, Guilds....)

Each time a you enter a city there a chance of someone getting killed that keeps happening and you start getting ghost towns. Simple.