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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:55 pm

So, Sydney to Perth is a 2500 mile trip? Wow.

I never knew Australia was as big as the US!
I learn something new every day.

That said, to be honest, Confusing Washington State with Washington D.C. isn't that bad. There are much more worse mistakes made. :)

Such as confusing the state Georgia for the Country Georgia.

And a radioactive dust bowl? Oh, the humanity! :)
Ewok, yeah, my bad.
Also, Dr. Insano is behind Fallout 3? OH NO!
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:16 pm

And a radioactive dust bowl? Oh, Fallout, you and your universe's complete disregard for radiation decay...you make me laugh.

Don't worry, its all for SCIENCE!

EDIT: Agh, edit ninja'd!
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:06 pm

I never thought I'd live to see the day someone confused DC for being in Washington state. Though, OP does have a point. If you have either Enclave/BoS connections or are really good at stealing things, you could theoretically make the trip from DC to Vegas in two days flat. I speak, of course, of hijacking a Vertibird. True most wasters have no hope in hell, but if you have the right connections or a screwdriver and some skill at vehicle theft you oughtta be able to do it.

I very much doubt a wastelander is going to figure out how to fly a Vertibird before crashing and dying.

Making the trip on foot is not impossible, but it would be very difficult, especially once you reached the former heartland and the epic dust bowl conditions likely to be present there. Now imagine http://www.paranormalknowledge.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dustbowl.jpg, only all that dust is radioactive, and mutated animals or raiders are stalking you somewhere in it.

The actual distance isn't that bad, and you would have no need to move at a break-neck speed to reach New Vegas from the Capital Wasteland. 4 years have passed since FO3, and the 2500 mile journey could be completed on foot if the wastelander averaged a little over 2 miles a day. That's a pretty leisurely pace, wasteland conditions or not. If they travel 10 miles once every 5 days, which wouldn't be that hard either, they could even rest/scavenge/resupply for nearly a week in between trips and still make the trip in less than 4 years.

I'm even writing a comic to explain my New Vegas character's backstory that involves this (as she comes from Capital Wasteland originally). If you imagine a character left the DC area 6 months to a year after the end of Fallout 3, they have plenty of time to reach Vegas and become the Courier before the start of New Vegas's storyline. (My character for New Vegas will be a new one, and not related to the Vault Dweller in anyway.) Travel an average of 5 miles a day and you still have time for extended layovers of months or weeks in certain spots.

The two big obstacles are going to be the Appalachian Moutain range, which while not too difficult, will definitely slow a traveller way down, and the radioactive dust bowl in the midwest. The Mississippi River, averaging only 9 feet deep in most places above New Orleans, has likely dried up, or lowered to the point it could be waded across with no need of a boat or raft. Keep your supplies up for the trip, watch out for raiders, and you're golden.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:10 pm


That said, to be honest, Confusing Washington State with Washington D.C. isn't that bad. There are much more worse mistakes made. :)

Such as confusing the state Georgia for the Country Georgia.




... or confusing America with the US, for that matter :)
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:33 am

... or confusing America with the US, for that matter :)

[edit... *grumbles*]
Always been a chip on my shoulder that a lot of people say America when they actually mean The USoA.
Oh well, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. :)
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:36 pm

... or confusing America with the US, for that matter :)


I've always accepted it as people saying "America" when they mean the country, and "North America" when they mean the continent.
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:06 am

Always been a chip on my shoulder that a lot of people say America when they actually mean The USoA.
Oh well, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. :)

I'm confused. I don't see a problem here. I mean, the fact that when I travel to the Northern United States of America or to the Southern United States of American or the Central United States of America they still ask for a passport is a little weird, but whatever. :lol:
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:28 pm

*random question*
hmm... Why wouldnt larger factions create small secretive kind of radio bunkers across the gap between the East and West coast to keep communication between the two connected? (like they keep relaying the message until they received it) I would at least try it =/
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:46 pm

I never thought I'd live to see the day someone confused DC for being in Washington state.

1. He's not American.
2. I've been confused by it too.
and 3. They both have Washington in their name and are therefore very similar in name. Isn't it reasonable to expect the capital of 'Washington DC' to be in the state of 'Washington'?
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:34 pm

Hell i was born and raised in the U.S. and i just found out last week that Vegas is in the East and not in the West where i thought it was for the past 15 odd years, so seeing someone outside of the U.S. make such a mistake does'nt really surprise me.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:32 pm

I want to know whether the Fallout developers were using the actual Midwest region, or the one Hollywood and everyone imagines where we encompass Texas and like half the South also.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:23 pm

He's not American so that's not a difficult mistake to make. I also know very little about America geographically.


Yeah so do some Americans themselves. They ask which state I'm from and I say that I am from Washington. They automatically assume I mean D.C. which is incorrect because Washington D.C. is a principality.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:22 pm

Hell i was born and raised in the U.S. and i just found out last week that Vegas is in the East and not in the West where i thought it was for the past 15 odd years, so seeing someone outside of the U.S. make such a mistake does'nt really surprise me.

Your kidding right? I'm god awful at Geography and I've known where Vegas was since I was a kid, I love the United States I feel a great sense of pride being apart of this nation that may be why I've taken a special interest in learning as much as I can and knowing geographical locations of importance. Hell if you live in any country so should at least know a general layout of where you reside, even if you don't have a particular interest with the country you reside in. :facepalm:
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:32 pm

Your kidding right? I'm god awful at Geography and I've known where Vegas was since I was a kid, I love the United States I feel a great sense of pride being apart of this nation that may be why I've taken a special interest in learning as much as I can and knowing geographical locations of importance. Hell if you live in any country so should at least know a general layout of where you reside, even if you don't have a particular interest with the country you reside in. :facepalm:


That might be why i don't know the layout well since i honestly can't stand this damn place half the time and barely tolerate it the other half, but that might just be caused by where i live being full of morons that causes me to hate the U.S.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:18 pm

That might be why i don't know the layout well since i honestly can't stand this damn place half the time and barely tolerate it the other half, but that might just be caused by where i live being full of morons that causes me to hate the U.S.

I'd have to agree with you a little there, after living half my life in Hawaii i just can't stand Virginia... Its filled with way to many people, and way to many morons. :facepalm:
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:02 am

Cassidy!

Its a rumour of the wastes which is too good not to be true.
If it is true, its an excellent reason for people not travelling.
If its not true, just the rumour is good enough reason for people to not want to travel.

The grass isnt greener on the other side of the hill, theres a radioactive dustbowl and mile wide twisters. So why go to the other side of the hill?


Harold made the journey.

Also with all due respect for the Mid West, what is there to nuke?
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:46 pm

Harold made the journey.

Also with all due respect for the Mid West, what is there to nuke?


Harold Had 38 years to cross (well more then four years) Second Midwestern States were nuked just as bad as the rest of the world. Play Tactics. When in a nuclear war against an enemy that wants to eradicated you eradicate them. Therefore every major City is a target.
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:37 am

ok to get to Vegas from washington the old highway path useing I 70 and I15 would be 2442.73 miles through the blue ridge mountains, over three major rivers that probably no longer have bridges over them (two of them fairly fast flowing) then passing through the rockies in the north around Denver. bypassing the blueridge to the south is 2619.65 miles. that however puts you at one of the wider parts of the Mississippi river
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:38 pm

ok to get to Vegas from washington the old highway path useing I 70 and I15 would be 2442.73 miles through the blue ridge mountains, over three major rivers that probably no longer have bridges over them (two of them fairly fast flowing) then passing through the rockies in the north around Denver. bypassing the blueridge to the south is 2619.65 miles. that however puts you at one of the wider parts of the Mississippi river


Yep then add a world gone to hell by nuclear war. Mutations like Super Mutants that travelled as far east as Kansas form the West. Deserts (Wasteland) to cross through. Raiders and vast slaving networks to avoid.

Would be very hard to do in less then four years. Then there would be the why? Why would the Lone Wanderer go west? Makes no sense.

Also it's been confirmed there will be no characters from Fallout 3 in New Vegas.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:13 pm

Harold made the journey.

Also with all due respect for the Mid West, what is there to nuke?

the nukes

seriously take a look at this mape for example

http://www.radmeters4u.com/states/mo.htm
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:45 pm

I very much doubt a wastelander is going to figure out how to fly a Vertibird before crashing and dying.




I disagree, That kid Colton Harris was able to steal planes fly them around and kind of land them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colton_Harris-Moore

Fallout is based on the fifties vision of the future where everyone would be flying. IMO the veritbird would be easy to fly. Just push a button and and take off. Push another button to land.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:18 pm

Harold made the journey.

Also with all due respect for the Mid West, what is there to nuke?

Hmm...I don't know...maybe the third largest population and economic center in the entire country? Heck of a lot more than there is in Maryland, anyway. :P
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:57 pm

the nukes

seriously take a look at this mape for example

http://www.radmeters4u.com/states/mo.htm


Holey @#$# that is a lot of nukes.
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:26 am

I disagree, That kid Colton Harris was able to steal planes fly them around and kind of land them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colton_Harris-Moore

Fallout is based on the fifties vision of the future where everyone would be flying. IMO the veritbird would be easy to fly. Just push a button and and take off. Push another button to land.


Not everyone was flying in 2077. Resources were running low. Air lines I am sure would not be running. Military only. People will not be able to just fly a plane or vertibird after 200 years. It would be pretty dumb like that movie Battlefield Earth where tribal people learn how to fly jump jets.

Again it's been confirmed that there will be no major references to Fallout 3 therefore no major characters from FO3 will be in New Vegas.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:47 pm

Hmm...I don't know...maybe the third largest population and economic center in the entire country? Heck of a lot more than there is in Maryland, anyway. :P


I guess Chicago is what your talking about. Never really think about Chicago, but you are totally wrong re maryland. The entire USA federal government is located in Maryland, DC and VA. In Maryland alone you have Andrews AFB, Fort Mead (home of NSA), the Naval Academy...
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