http://www.metro.co.uk/news/892930-bacon-sandwiches-and-fizzy-drinks-take-years-off-your-life

I actually find this research daft, it seems scientists just look for any reason to scare the population into "being healthy".

Right so by those calculations I've well raised my chance of death by 1000% - wait I've increased the chance of death, that very think that is inevitable
Right now here is where it falls apart...1 can of juice here is 330ml, now everyday I was at school and here in work I have had atleast one to three cans of juice, not to mention I've drank well over 330ml on holidays from bottles. So I'll do a little math with this.....365 * 15 = 5475 so thats 5475 drinks for 15 years (Primary 1 until now). Now if each one is carries a 20% I'm something like 1095% at risk from heart disease....Shouldn't I be dead by now

Does the research actually get taken seriously? But being supa cereal for a moment, by these findings shouldn't humans have collapsed since from the beginning we've been eating red meat?

What do you guys think of this kind of research?

I think it's chance of premature or early death, and you miscalculated. It's not additive. You don't get 20% more likely to die EVERY SINGLE TIME you drink a soda. It means drinking a soda every day, your entire life, makes you 20% more likely to die of heart disease.

So by drinkng soda and eating red meat every day you're only 33% more likely to die before everybody else.

What about fruit juice? I drink an inordinate amount Kiwi-Apple-Strawberry juice, is that going to kill me?

Everything kills me or causes some disease these days.
I will just use common sense when it comes to my health, seemed to work pretty well for my grandparents.

Ahh then I may take a step back and delete this email I was sending to the insitute of science about me being somewhat untouchable by such products and related illness.

I drink a rather large amount of apple juice when I can, who knows maybe because it's fruit and "healthy" it cancels out the affect of fizzy juice. Then again I'm sure fruit is badd for you as well

Ya, the people who report on scientific research really need to be taught how to understand and convey the information/data. I despise -- yes, I feel that strongly about it -- inaccurate reporting, especially about scientific matters. It's one of the reasons companies and politicans are able to get away with as much [censored] as they do. The fourth estate has really deteriorated over the past two or three decades.

(That, or you just misunderstood the article, which I haven't read yet, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. )

Fruit contains Vitamin C which causes cancer. That's an obvious one C = Cancer. The juice isn't fizzy, I buy crates of pure juice concentrate that I then mix with water in a pitcher until it is liquid again. Don't judge me, I barely even get sick once a year.

A toothpaste advert tells me it will strip the enamel off of your teeth. That's about as bad as I've heard it gets for you.

Large amounts of sugar will kill you, regardless of what kind of liquid it comes in. Fruit juice is just as bad for you as Coke, except it has a few vitamins, too.

And vitamen water is such a hoax. on that one, Coca-Cola Corporation. You really pulled a number on the uninformed masses with it.

Toothpaste contians fluoride, can cause fluoride poisining. Much like the water in this country, we should stop drinking that stuff...

I had a nasty shock the other day, when I actually read how much crap they put in things though. I had some lemon flvaoured, ice tea "one 200ml serving contins 14.0g suger 16% of an advlts GDA". Would be much healthier to start making my own.

You're right on the first point, but I think your second point isn't right. Because these are two quite different partitions of the population (one partition is red meat vs. non-red meat, the other partition is fizzy drink vs. non-fizzy drink), you can't just add up the probabilities. For instance, the red meat eating population may overlap with the fizzy drink drinking population.

Everything will kill you, in excess though. I fail to see how some sugar or meat daily is really the bad for the body, since without sugar we have no energy and die anyway, and without the meat we don't get our proteins to grow or fats to store energy, heat ourselves up etc.

All true. However, processed food -- which makes up a lot of what a lot of people eat nowadays -- has much more sugar (and salt) than is healthy for us. And it's getting worse. For instance, the Special K cereal? It has 100% more sugar than it did 4 decades ago. Companies continue to add more flavourants over time as they try to out-flavour each other. The problem even reaches agriculture, where farmers are "encouraged" to grow sweeter varieties of fruit.

And people just can't help themselves. I have a thing for Swedish chocolate and Danish biscuits.

However, those are the two things I allow myself once or twice a week. I think that's okay.

If I were you, Fern, I'd cut back on the juice. Even if it does nothing else, it's seriously increasing your chances of developing diabetes.

I assume they mean the risk of dying on that day, though I suspect these stats are ultimately meaningless, especially the context in which they're typically reported.

I dunno, scare stories about all sorts of random things (though with an obvious bias towards the more enjoyable ones, deserved or otherwise) were old when I was young, though they're still just as tiresome.

If I believe everything I read, everything is out to kill me. But, as surprisingly as it is, if you take the time to get off your rear and exercise at least once a day, you could counter out the crap you likely eat all day.

The only thing about red meat is that it's high in cholesterol. Since heart disease is the prevailing factor it's no surprise that something which increass your cholesterol levels could be considered bad.

Eggs are also high in cholesterol, and have gone through a rollercoaster of "eggs are good for you eat them every day" to "eggs will kill you stop eating eggs RIGHT NOW".

Exercise consumes calories. It does nothing for the other effects of sugar, unless you exercise right after you eat sugar, and then only if you've eaten a small amount of sugar. And exercise doesn't ameliorate the effects of salt. So, no, exercise is not the dream solution. It has to be paired with healthy eating.

I'm at no present risk from it just now and as for the future, it's the future and I'll deal with that obstacle when it comes. As for dealing with diabetes I do enough running with the dog to help counter the drawbacks of a good can of Irn-Bru and with my younster sister already getting it somehow I think I'll be able to cope with it and control it easy enough, plus if I didn't drink fizzy juice where would I get my energy...Coffee....

I'm with you on this one, now after my McDonalds lunch I'm going to jog after the bus instead of waiting
- Have noticed a severe drop in fitness though but I think that's partyly to do with being out of training and PE class for a few years , light jogs with the dog and for buses isn't enough

Yeah...Ima keep eating my eggs thankyouverymuch healthboard
Love my eggs in the afternoon, french toast, eggs in a cup with toast soldiers(shoulders), bacon, ham and cheese omelette and the simple fried egg

Not my point pal, I mean that exercise and moderation are the keys to health. All of the 'good' things in life in the food and drink world are by and large indulgent items meant to be enjoyed in small quantities.

It comes down to this:

Would you rather live to 100 and get to eat/drink nothing enjoyable or would you rather live to 80 and get to enjoy the food/drink that you like?

That seems like a slam dunk decision to me, I didn't have any plans for the 80-100 range anyway.

I've got big plans, and you're all invited.

Well, the ones who aren't dead.

What do you have against coffee?

I posted this in a previous thread, but Oof is right, most fruit juices contain about as much sugar as soda / pop / fizzy drink / whatever. Red meat is also bad for your colon.

I'd just eat what you like but in moderation.

I'd rather live as long as I can personally >_>

It's bad, I kind of view it in the same place as smoking. It's addictive (for some) and not a single type smells good, they're all horrible, and it stains your teeth over time (as well as normal decay) - much like smoking. Not to mention it's also a warm drink, can't stand them, the only exception being soup.

No tea for you, eh? I thought you were implying it's bad for you. It's not bad for you. Not overly healthy either, but better than soda or sugary juice.

And the smell of coffee rules.