Hello all,

I had to register to this forum just to tell you guys this. Yeah, got the red ring of death to my 360 today while playing New Vegas.

I got the game yesterday and was very happy with it. I'm a huge fallout fan and playing New Vegas was so much fun. It was like playing fallout 3 exactly 2 years ago. Today the game froze a couple of times while visiting the town of Novac. The third time... well my 360 died. I don't know, it may be just coincidence, but did Fallout just kill my xbox? Has anybody heard anything like this happening before with this game or has this happened to any of you? I'm am very pissed off right now... No more playing fallout or any 360 game for a while now. (I live in Finland so sending my console for maintenance is going to take probably 3 weeks.) My xbox was just two years old so I always thought it wouldn't have the RRoD problem. But oh boy was I wrong... I haven't had any problems with my xbox before. It just didn't like New Vegas?

Damn, I even had some live gold membership time left for the rest of the year.

Yeah, happy Christmas to everyone. Hope somebody reads this.

Same thing happened to me. The constant freezes/restarts were just too much for my unfortunately out of warranty system.

Really... Oh man. So New Vegas CAN break your system. Heads up everyone!

ya after looking at a load of other sites it hasen't just happened to u 2 i have counted about 52 diff ppl that have had the RRoD happen to them

You have my sympathy, as my 360 came up with the RROD when I turned it on about a year. Luckily it was okay when I unplugged it and tried again. But then it failed a few months when I was about half-way through Mass Effect 2, and wouldn't restart!
I'm not sure if a game could cause the problem - I suppose it might, depending on the stress on the cpu and graphics card.

Yeah, thanks man. I don't know... I really hate spending any more of my time and money for microsoft's piece of s*** products but I guess I'm going to send my xbox to maintenance. It's just that after I ordered the maintenance, the e-mail I got telling me what to do, had wrong information and inadequate instructions for the procedure. The maintenance would be free but how I'm going to send my console from Finland and where + I didn't get the sending receipt with the e-mail. And the nearest UPS office is 2 hours buss ride away somewhere in the closest city's suburbs.

It seems that the new 360 system update that came to live a while ago might have something to do with breaking people's consoles too. Who knows, maybe microsoft gets more Slim 360s sold with an older system breaking update. Just a thought.

This svcks so hard...

Can't hard drive issues cause the RROD? If so maybe New Vegas corrupted your whole drive causing the system to fail. I have heard of New Vegas nuking hard drives too. What happens if you remove the drive does it still RROD?

this doesnt have anything to do with the game, the xbox was on its way out to begin with. I offer repairs for 40 including return shipping but that price is for customers in the US only. If anyone is interested let me know. I am definitely not a big supporter of the game as I have received the DLC bug so I would be the first to blame the game but, honestly its not the game...its just Microsoft's flaws xD

Yes it does RRoD without the hard drive. I'm sending the xbox to maintenance hopefully tomorrow. I'm just worried if my hard drive is broken, I have to buy a new one (you're not supposed to send the hard drive with the xbox) and I'll have all my saves and paid dlcs lost? Apparently you can revive your gamertag and -score?

Does anybody know how to proceed if I get my console sent back and working but I'd find out that the hard drive would be dead? Thanks...

Since FNV crashes mean you have to (constantly...) hard reset the xbox then yes it can cause a RRoD, this is the main reason (other than half the world map not existing for me..) that i refuse to put my ￡40 coaster into the xbox.

My advice to anyone who suffer's constant crashes is to avoid playing it for now as it really isnt worth killing your xbox.

Great minds think alike. Hence why I havn't even touched my disc yet. I'd rather not risk it frying my Slim. 4RRoD's is more than enough for me, thankyou. How I love waiting 20 days and yet absolutely nothing on this patch. Regardless, FFXIII is still keeping me busy. I'm just glad I have other games.

same here..it killed my NEW XBOX (new vegas was the only game i played on it...)

i also contacted bethesda about that



and thats what they answered

:sadvaultboy: :nuke:

It's so sad.. the point that video games have come to. First small graphical glitches, then game freezes and finally... hardware break downs. Depressing but that's how it goes.

One thing's for sure: good old Nintendo consoles won't let any of us down!

Thats what I tried telling everyone. Besides all of the known glitches/Bugs, this game caused damage to my hardware. Never did I have problems with my xbox 360 which is only 6 months old btw, until all the corrupt save files and bugs came.
After playing the game and exploring the wasteland around the Vertibird, My xbox froze completely. I pulled my power cable and plugged it back in and got red rings. After I pulled the power again, the red ring stopped but now when I click "Load" on NV , I get a disc read error and it goes straight to the dashboard. This is the only game my Xbox 360 gives me a Disc read Error, Only NV . I even tried un-installing and re-installing it to my HDD and nothing. Its so weird tho because It installs completely fine and will even let me play a new game perfectly, but when and only when I go to load a game it gives me the disc read error. Go figure, I emailed the mod of these forums and he tried to tell me its a hardware problem defending their broken product, I call Shenanigans.
I think I will be calling both Obsidian and Microsoft in an attempt to FIX/Refund my game and newly bought hardware. I smell a civil suit coming on if more and more people experience hardware issues after playing this game and Beth/Obsidian continue to ignore it and keep telling everyone patches are coming out, but it feels I wont be seeing a patch until they try to make more money on their broken DLC. Dont think it wont happen, we all remember the lady that won her case against McDonalds for burning herself with their hot coffee , this I think falls in the same laws as buying a lemon car. Having the dealer tell you it drives like a dream only to break down on the way home from the dealership. Better do something to right these wrongs...

You should contact the Xbox Live customer service hotline and discuss having your account credited/frozen so you don't pay for a useless month while getting your xbox repaired. Also, don't be too specific about your problem when having your console repair order generated. Sometimes they won't repair an "older" (+1 year) console for the DVD drive dying. Just tell them it's the red ring and leave it at that.

lol at you all blaming a game, if you did your proper research on how/why the console gets RRoD you would know that you console was dying prior to you even putting in that disc

Well of course, but I do consider the 20+ freezes I've personally had (which required me to hard power off the console) to be detrimental. I would always assume it's exclusively hardware, but I must note that these freezes are rough on the hardware.

I highly doubt a game caused anyone's Xbox to get the RROD. Quit crying about it, send your Xbox in for repairs, and then play whatever game you want to.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't RROD most likely to happen due to overheating?

You can have a variety of red rings. One is specific to the DVd drive, another is specific to the motherboard. The DVD drive can burn out from extended use and the motherboard can overheat (contributed by extended DVD play that causes more heat, which is why xbox updated it's firmware to include HDD installation to reduce DVD drive wear, exhaustive heat, and console noise).
Fallout can contribute to this in a couple ways: game freezes which effect both DVD and motherboard wear and also the atypical play time durations that generally exceed playtime of other console games.
Do I think fallout kills the xbox. No. Do I think it's good for xbox. Definitely not.

Obviously you did'nt do your proper research as their are many error codes that contribute to getting RROD. I find it very hard to believe, after only buying my Xbox 360 brand new in May 2010, that I would be experiencing DVD drive errors. Even now when I put this game into my old Halo 3 Edition Xbox 360, it experiences the same problem. What could the problem really be??? And if you actually read the whole post, you will see that it only happens when this game is inserted, so I really wonder what the main contributing factor to my DVD drive malfunction is??? Hmm, take you really devoted fan ignorance elsewhere and stop defending a broken game. Go buy a car that has a bore in a cylinder not caught by the average eye and see how fast you complain about wasted money you spent after a piston fly's through your hood, this is the same in my opinion.

thats what i always thought. people need to just put their controllers down every once in a while, go outside, kick a ball around, build a fort, **** idk lol.....

lmao its so funny how you assume people dont have lives and never go outside because their unhappy with a product they spent money on. And no again, it isnt due just to overheating. Also, your xbox can overheat from just less than an hour of gameplay if not given the proper room to breathe. Dont make uneducated assumptions about people, it makes you look stupid which im guessing is about right for you anyways.

I had NV RROD my xbox as well, but it just destroyed the Hard Drive, and not the console itself. Removing the Hard drive results in standard operation and New Vegas continues to play, albeit, sometimes the load times can be extreme, usually initial outdoor load. (Though oddly, the average load time dropped, maybe a sign my HDD was on the way out anyway)

To be quite Frank, a standard Power-Off using the button itself (Not yanking out the power cord) Should never really damage the system hardware itself, beyond natural wear and tear. Yanking the Cord itself out, can definitely damage the hardware though, as a sudden negative surge in power like that, can easily damage the sensitive electronics. A brown-out power surge was the cause of my only Xbox360 true "Death" RRoD a few years back (Week of Bioshock). Mind you this was a Core launch console, bought on the day of release.

I've never had to actually pull the plug on the console, during fairly infrequent lockups (Usually one freeze every 40 hours) and there is no technical reason why using the power button is functionally different than using the xboxguide soft-shutdown. I personally think my hard drive was on it's way out, as stated above, and the inopportune lockup and subsequent power-off was simply the final nail in it's already half-sealed coffin. And it's given me a reason to upgrade to the 250gb (From the lousy stock 20gb that couldn't even fit Mass Effect 2 in a game install).

If you have had an RRoD, I would suggest trying to pop out the Hard drive to make sure it's not the problem. The 3 red lights indicates a "General Hardware Failure" and if it is indeed the HDD, the console will still function without it.

I'd also like to add that I put, what can easily be described as "Excessive" Wear on both Xbox360's I've owned(Easily the top 5% of actual usage as a value of "Hours played"). What I notice is that many RRoD's are easily avoidable consumer Error with how they treat the console. Shock damage from moving the console, Smoking (This is a huge one, smokers, if you ever see that orangish-black goop around your house, that is also building up on your console), improper ventilation (don't put your console in an entertainment-cabinet or something, might as well put it in the oven, keep it exposed to open air on 3 of the four sides, and horizontal orientation is better than vertical) and you can drastically reduce the chances of hardware failures. Is it reasonable that the 360 is prone to failures in a way that is unprecedented in gaming history? No, but you can take steps to minimize the risk of your console going kaput. Again, I want to point out that Smoking is the no.1 seldom-known cause of console (All electronic actually) Failure. Avoid smoking around your 360 if possible.

To me they let you down the minute you buy them. They release hardware that is last-gen with a gimmick. The Wii is an old re-worked low-def Gamecube with a controller gimmick. But at least they don't break.

Interesting advice, The_ugly_guy_at_the_Store.
However, I smoke a pipe, but also have an air purifier/ioniser running. I also have my 360 on a well ventilated hi-fi rack, with the power brick in plenty of open space.

As I assume most RRODs happen when playing a game, wouldn't it stand to reason that the most popular games would therefore be seen to 'cause' the problem?
Personally, I doubt if any particular game is the culprit.
There were a lot more RRODs well before Fallout: New Vegas, or Fallout 3, were released!