Show Us Your Dawnguard Screenshots! #5

Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:44 pm

Screenshot Guidelines ( MUST READ BEFORE POSTING! ):
(Thanks to bashur and Matthew Kaine(?) for the original versions of this set of guidelines over in the Oblivion Mods section :smile: )
  • No criticism should be directed at a person - only constructive criticism at the posters work
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    • No subjective (or moral, ethnic, political, religious, cultural, social, sixual, etc.) preferences should be dictated to others as right or wrong in this thread.
    • All members are encouraged to post their screenshots regardless of their style of play, as long as they stay within the rules of this forum and thread.
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"I think it's stupid" and comments of that ilk? Are not criticism. They're just rather belligerant.
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Post screenshots that are pretty, that are fun, or funny or scenic. Be kind to each other. Or don't bother with the thread." - Leydenne


Tips (under development)
Camera Tips (for basic screenshots without a third-party program):
  • Press F on your keyboard to switch back and forth from first, to third-person view
  • Press and hold F to change the camera angle by moving your mouse around. This will rotate the camera around your character.
    • A side-to-side mouse movement will rotate the camera around your player
    • A forwards-backwards mouse movement will tilt the camera angle above or below your character
    • The mouse scroll wheel will move the camera closer or farther away
  • You can equip your weapon and/or cast a spell in this position as long as you continue to hold F
  • Press the "Print Screen" or "Prt Scr" button at any time to take your shot.
    • Be careful not to take them too close together or you'll accidentally capture the "screen shot created" message in your shot if your UI is still enabled (see below).
How to disable the UI (Stats Bars, Compass, etc):
  • Open the console by pressing the "~" key on your keyboard
    • This key is located next to your "1" key, above your "TAB" key, and usually below your "ESC" key
    • This will bring up the console, you'll notice a place at the bottom left of your screen where you are now able to type
  • Type TM
  • Press ENTER
  • Then close the console by pressing "~" again
  • Your UI (User Interface) should now be gone
    • To re-enable your UI, type TM in the console again using the steps above
How to enable Free-Flying Camera mode:
  • Open the console by pressing the "~" key on your keyboard
    • This key is located next to your "1" key, above your "TAB" key, and usually below your "ESC" key
    • This will bring up the console, you'll notice a place at the bottom left of your screen where you are now able to type
  • Type TFC
  • OR type TFC 1 to pause the action and enable the free camera.
  • CAUTION: Animations and gametime passage may be suspended with TFC 1, but script functions are not. Scripts may still trigger events even while the actors or props they manipulate are still frozen.
  • Press ENTER
  • Then close the console by pressing "~" again
  • You can then move the camera around using the same keys you would normally use to move your character.
    • To go back to normal, type TFC in the console again using the steps above
  • To change the speed in which the freecam moves, use the console command SUCSM (x), where (x) is the speed multiplier. Default appears to be about 10, which may be unwieldy.
How to panrotate camera while walking:
  • Open the console by pressing the "~" key on your keyboard
    • This key is located next to your "1" key, above your "TAB" key, and usually below your "ESC" key
    • This will bring up the console, you'll notice a place at the bottom left of your screen where you are now able to type
  • Type ANIMCAM
  • Press ENTER
  • Then close the console by pressing "~" again
  • You can now rotate the camera around your character while walking/fighting etc.
    • To go back to normal, type ANIMCAM in the console again using the steps above
How to Disable the AI of any Creature/NPC:
  • Open the console by pressing the "~" key on your keyboard
    • This key is located next to your "1" key, above your "TAB" key, and usually below your "ESC" key
    • This will bring up the console, you'll notice a place at the bottom left of your screen where you are now able to type
  • Type TAI
  • Press ENTER
  • Then close the console by pressing "~" again
  • Entering the command while no actor is selected will cause all actors to stand at idle (but still have idle animation).
  • Using while an actor is selected will freeze them in-place.
  • To return to normal, type TAI in the console again, and press enter.
How to remove Collision from your Character (Clipping):
  • Open the console by pressing the "~" key on your keyboard
    • This key is located next to your "1" key, above your "TAB" key, and usually below your "ESC" key
    • This will bring up the console, you'll notice a place at the bottom left of your screen where you are now able to type
  • Type TCL
  • Press ENTER
  • Then close the console by pressing "~" again
  • To return to normal, type TCL in the console again, and press enter
How to post your screenshots
  • Upload to an image hosting site. There are many popular options for doing so, including a built-in service with Steam. Per asgard: From steam's screenshot manager, you simply select a pic, then hit the upload button. Then you click on 'View online library' where you can manage all your uploaded pics.
  • Copy the URL for your image. The image hosting site you choose usually has a box with code to pick from. You'll want to get the code that refers to BBCode, and a direct URL. Do not bother with getting BBCode Image coding, as this forum does not support embedded images in posts.
  • When you post your screenshot, it's often nice to include some flavor text, rather than just posting an undescriptive URL. :smile:
  • The best way to do that is to type out the following: [ url = " TYPE YOUR URL HERE " ] TYPE NAME HERE [ / url ] (without spaces)
How to swap out animations (pre CK, PC only)
  • Until pose mods come out, this method is the best option for making your character do things that NPCs can do!
  • You'll need a .bsa extractor. I (Eisoj5) am using a Fallout3 extractor for the time being, but there are more options out there.
  • Open the Skyrim - Animations.bsa file in your .bsa extractor. The animations for character and NPCs are located in themeshes\actors\character\animationsfolder within that file.
  • Extract the animations you want to play with. I (Eisoj5) have a separate folder for all the random stuff I like to mess with/add to Skyrim, so I put them in that folder.
  • Rename the animation you want to use ingame to sneakmtidle.hkx .
  • Copy your new sneakmtidle.hkx to Skyrim\Data\meshes\actors\character\animations. (You will have to create these subfolders if they do not already exist in your directory.)
  • In game, simply press the sneak button and your swapped animation should begin to play! Keep in mind this is only when you're sneaking and not moving. Moving will return to the regular sneak motion animation.
  • To get back to the normal sneak idle animation, just delete sneakmtidle.hkx from Skyrim\Data\meshes\actors\character\animations.
Lighting Tips (courtesy of UKnightwatch)

To avoid bad lighting, I try to;
  • Not have a bright light directly behind subject
  • Not have a very bright light too close to front of subject
  • Not aim camera directly at a bright light
  • Turn my character into good lighting
  • Make good use of character items such as torch or spells that cast light and such if available
On PC;

Make use of the 'tfc' feature to move the camera accordingly to avoid bad lighting - see begining of this thread

I realise we are not all super smart when it comes to using art packages on PC (points at self as example of dimness) and we do not all have access to professional software - this has its problems.

If you are using a PC, there are some free to download image manipulating programs available - your search engine is your friend! Free software can be very basic but that is all we need. A little time taken to learn the basics of such free programs can pay off really well and bring our screenshots [more] to life. :smile:

Using FOV

FOV, or "field-of-view/vision", can help you zoom in for even better close-up shots.
  • Open the console using the ` key.
  • Type fov ##, where lower numbers equal a tighter zoom and higher numbers a wide angle. Close the console.
  • The game is preset to fov 65. FOVs lower than 50 are great for close-ups, but can be hard to frame if your TFC speed is high.
  • To get back to your normal setting, open the console and type either just fov again or fov 65.
MOD SUGGESTION

Here's a small list of mods to make your screenshots more interesting and actractive
  • http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/10870: This mod brings you a figurines allowing you to control yourself, and a special spell that can turn any NPC into brainless puppet doing any animation you want.
  • http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17174: Pinup style poses for your female character... or your male, if you're into that sort of thing (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/11811 needed for the mod to work)
  • http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=11757: Removes most of the blurriness from finisher moves and reduce the number of camera cuts in most moves
  • http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=7942: Removes drop of blood from screen
  • http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/22745: Adds footprints to the player, NPCs, and creatures
  • http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19660: Adds a snowy visual effect to the player and NPCs when snow is falling. Effects all live and deceased NPCs and wildlife with-in a set radius.
You may find these guide useful: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19362, http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17837 so you won't be lost in all those awesome animations and poses :biggrin:

All previous threads:

Spoiler
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1387920-show-us-your-dawnguard-screenshots-1/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1401319-show-us-your-dawnguard-screenshots-2/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1403013-show-us-your-dawnguard-screenshots-3/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1405817-show-us-your-dawnguard-screenshots-4/
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Alexander Lee
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:47 am

I guess I didn't do it exactly right cause the spoiler tag isn't correct :confused: sorry, I tried.
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Horse gal smithe
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:53 pm

I guess I didn't do it exactly right cause the spoiler tag isn't correct :confused: sorry, I tried.

replace the spoiler section you wrote, with the following :)
(be sure to remove all the spaces i added, before posting the modified OP)

[ spoiler ]
[ url = " http:// www.gamesas.com/topic/ 1387920-show-us-your-dawnguard-screenshots-1/ " ] #1 [ /url ]
[ url = " http:// www.gamesas.com/topic/ 1401319-show-us-your-dawnguard-screenshots-2/ " ] #2 [ /url ]
[ url = " http:// www.gamesas.com/topic/ 1403013-show-us-your-dawnguard-screenshots-3/ " ] #3 [ /url ]
[ url = " http:// www.gamesas.com/topic/ 1405817-show-us-your-dawnguard-screenshots-4/ " ] #4 [ /url ]
[ / spoiler ]

thanks for opening the new thread :)
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Romy Welsch
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:45 am

Thank you Tom, but I think I've done enough damage for one day! ... but I promise I won't try it again! :blush: I'll stick to posting pic's again when I can.
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Vicki Gunn
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:40 am

Thank you Tom, but I think I've done enough damage for one day! ... but I promise I won't try it again! :blush: I'll stick to posting pic's again when I can.

Awww, poor buddy... i asked a moderator to help you out... it's all good ;)
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:01 pm

Awww, poor buddy... i asked a moderator to help you out... it's all good :wink:

Thank you.
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Sammygirl
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:04 am

Done. There was an errant quote tag stuck at the end. :) Any further problems just shout.
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LuCY sCoTT
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:39 am

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Serana
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Wanda Maximoff
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:36 am


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Amazing :trophy: !!
Boy have I got a long way to go :biggrin: !
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Sara Lee
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:22 am


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Love it! Great Shot! :D
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CHANONE
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:29 am

Death of the Lord is awesome too!
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David Chambers
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:11 am

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Like a boss... lady.

Serana
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This looks way better than those glowing eyes... black eyes FTW.
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Rachel Eloise Getoutofmyface
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:40 am

Great shots (last topic as well). Can't wait to kill Harkon now ;)

Reworking nights for better interiors:

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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:41 am

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The Elder Warfare 5: Skyrim :gun:
:laugh:

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i agree with everyone else...this is a really cool shot! :D

Done. There was an errant quote tag stuck at the end. :smile: Any further problems just shout.

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daniel royle
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:30 am

TomAraya: I was a follower of a game called Project Offset and wish they stuck with it ;( So I have to get my jollies off in Skyrim instead--could had been great too. Intel blows chunks (in this case) for letting it die :(

http://i.minus.com/iEHCsxQUSgS3y.jpg (just one of my favorite followers--especially for a Nord)

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Code Affinity
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:56 am

TomAraya: I was a follower of a game called Project Offset and wish they stuck with it ;( So I have to get my jollies off in Skyrim instead--could had been great too. Intel blows chunks (in this case) for letting it die :(

http://i.minus.com/iEHCsxQUSgS3y.jpg (just one of my favorite followers--especially for a Nord)

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awesome screenies :D
btw yeah, i've seen something around about that game. too bad it's dead because it was looking good...a modern Heretic or Hexen lol :D
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:17 am

TomAraya: I was a follower of a game called Project Offset and wish they stuck with it ;( So I have to get my jollies off in Skyrim instead--could had been great too. Intel blows chunks (in this case) for letting it die :(

http://i.minus.com/iEHCsxQUSgS3y.jpg (just one of my favorite followers--especially for a Nord)

http://i.minus.com/iba34dITgDAsFG.jpg
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Excellent! You've really captured the cold atmosphere of the place. :thumbsup:
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Heather beauchamp
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:20 am

Thanks and glad you like them. Few more:

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Unfortunately my day bloom settings don't agree with Snow Elf skintone so I waited till night, haha. Don't feel like reworking things for a rather minor offense so just went vanity route ;)
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Tanya Parra
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:42 am

Here are a few of my new female Nord vampire character. Loving the vampire side of the story.

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Petr Jordy Zugar
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:07 pm

Thanks everyone for your kind comments!
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Heather beauchamp
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:06 am

No more pics from me until I play my vampire character!
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Anne marie
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:52 pm

No more pics from me until I play my vampire character!

Boooo!

and I haven't seen pics of your Imperial in a while. She going vampire? And I don't think they fixed Vampire Lord TFC issues. :(

And I guess I better fill in your absense by taking another character through Dawnguard.
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Rinceoir
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:57 am

Boooo!

and I haven't seen pics of your Imperial in a while. She going vampire? And I don't think they fixed Vampire Lord TFC issues. :(

And I guess I better fill in your absense by taking another character through Dawnguard.

Yes she is. Once I finish the main quest with Einmyria, I will play her as my main :P
Yeah no idea if that will ever get fixed.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:52 am

Finally completed Dawnguard for first time:

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lisa nuttall
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:16 pm

Wow really cool!
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