I agree, that's the I don't have time to deal with you button. Also known as the, My god what did I do to there poor (enemy name here). He knew not what he was dealing with.

You are right bethesda shouldnt make the jump to next gen consoles and make their game more realistic like the series has progressively been doing since Arena. No lets just ignore the jump from arena to Morrowind, Morrowind to oblivion, Oblivion to Skyrim.

With that logic we shouldnt be able to block at all right? Since you know.... Blocking is something people did in real life. Rigggghhhhttt.

I have a different criticism.

Am I the only one that finds the right button-right hand/left button-left hand feature entirely trivial?
The two are not independent of each other, meaning that if you swing your right hand, you have to wait until it's done before swinging your left. Likewise, I also believe that if you wield a dagger and a mace, both hands take on the speed of the dagger, no? This makes dual wielding completely trivial because it doesn't actually afford you any additional speed or damage: the perks do that, not the gimmicky little feature. The gimmicky little feature is just that: a gimmick. If you right clicked and it switched between swinging your right and left hands, the effects on gameplay would be exactly the same, except now the left mouse button is free up for blocking.

But besides that, dual-wielding is completely broken. The moment you get that perk to increase damage of dual-wielded power attacks, you've won. You don't need to block, just spam stamina pots and spam that power attack. Allows you to hit multiple targets, easily has the highest DPS in the game and it's a 100% guarenteed stagger on every hit. This is way too powerful and completely trivializes the need for blocking since you can just stagger-lock opponents.

Exxxactly, so what you just said needs to be translated to the game. I think you guys are thinking in your heads when I say block that it will be the same as blocking with the shield.

Not the case.

I want it to be a risk to block with 2 weapons. I want our weapons to have a chance to break. I want our weapons to have a chance to recoil back and cut ourselves with our own weapon. I want to have a chance to have our weapons disarmed from us because our skill is too low.

Yes I agree there should be risk, but the point is to include blocking as an option period.

Have you ever played on master difficulty?

In that case I agree.

When it comes to melee dual wield is broken but I'm glad we got it for magic as well. Though that seems like it came at a cost...no more spellmaking.

I still want to dual-wield shields, don't tell me it's a bad idea, i just want.

It's a tradeoff, I think it works fine. You have to get out of the way to avoid being hit, or just get stuck in and do as much damage as you can as quickly as you can. Resist the urge to stand off and wait for them to hit you like you would when using a shield.

Theres actually a mod on the PC that lets you do this. It also lets you block with a spell in the left hand aswell. I love that mod

For magic it's fine because it actually does something, allowing you to heal while attacking or the like.
But for dual wielding it's trivial.

I agree that dual-wielding's only goodness comes from the power attack and speed perks. There is actually no point in using left weapon unless it has different enchantment.

As someone who went the whole way through primarily dual wielding (after leveling a few times with a shield), I can tell you that dual wielding is actually severely over powered. Your double power attack becomes just ridiculously devastating.

I know a guy working on a combat overhaul who has parrying planned. you would hold a "parry" button (say, "B") and that turns your attack buttons into parry buttons. You must time the parry correctly to block. I think this is an acceptable and balanced system.

Lol i just got an image of a guy wearing a skirt of swords in my mind. One breaks? Take another from the skirt. Surrounded by enemies? Do a twirl

Overpowered dual-wield is the reason I abandoned at least 2 characters I made.

Btw, if you really would like to look into this dual-wielding stuff, please google "Florentine dual wielding". You will find that dual-wield doesn't work as in your imagination or in common movie cliche.

I'm fine with not being able to block but it be nice if just one attack button alterated swings.

Op doesn't understand is that dual wielding is entirely offensive. That's the whole point...

what for do you need blocking when you kill your enemies within short time...? it's a trade of: lots of damage vs. blocking. the only thing that REALLY needs to be fixed, is equipping your left hand with a weapon. you always have to do that by browsing the favourits list when using anything else than unimproved weapons of the same type. at least for the pc, this should not be a problem at all... but that's the problem: if it cannot be (easily) done for the xbox, it will not be done at all.

A balance-argument in TES game?Seriously, besides Dragons beeing immun to illusion magic, Bethesda doesn′t give a **** on balancing.Look Illusion in general, conjuration, alchemy/enchanting/smithing-abuse, sneaking, sneaking+archery.

I think you would risk breaking your wrist blocking a heavy attack with one hand on the sword hilt.

No, a trade off argument.

It ok to criticise but I'd like to know what buttons people expect them to use to achieve block whilst still having the ability to control both hands?

Repeating what′s false doesn′t make it right. Come back with a proper argument.

It is a proper argument.

As explained before
One handed weapon + shield = best block, but lowest damage
One handed weapon = worse block, equal damage
Two handed weapon = even worse block, but more damage
Two one handed weapons = no block, but most damage

its a logical system of tadeoff between blocking power and damage.