Yea you will. Well if you are any kind of gamer at all you will. I won't be happy to be forced to hang on to my old systems but I will if I have to. What I do really want is some up to date hardware capable of displaying graphics similar to what we're seeing on the PCs right now. The difference between the two is rapidly expanding.

I would expect them to be as good as Battlefield on Medium to high settings. On consoles things like sniping really show up Xboxs compatibility with Battlefield. I wonder if they could somehow make the PC version compatible with them.

Are you going to get rid of your current console as soon as you get a new one? I am an Xbox 360 user, so i will assume you are too for the sake of making my argument. I think your argument would have had more merit when changing from original Xbox to 360, for example, because all the original Xbox did was play game discs. There are so many other uses for the 360 that it will still be a viable piece of hardware even after you get a new console. I will definitely buy the next Xbox console as soon as it is released. But rather than sell my 360 for pennies on the dollar, I will relocate it to a different TV (probably in my bedroom), where I can take advantage of things like Netflix and other streaming video, playing my music collection, etc. Plus I can still use it to play my old 360 games when my wife is watching Glee and other crap like that on the big TV. So backward compatibility would be nice, but if they radically change the data storage format and that is not possible, is it really worth permanently blackballing new consoles?

I hope in the next TES game we can be in massive epic battles like you read about in the lore books.

ssshhh.

are you saying that pc graphics are moving even farther in front of consoles?

i may not have to buy anything other than the xbox controller after i buy my gaming pc in a few months, lol. no console needed.

Bad example.

Morrowind didn't sell very well on the original Xbox. Skyrim and Oblivion have been total blockbusters on the 360 and PS3.

I sort of hope there will be a new console company that provides good competition to the other two. That would help stop MS and Sony being too lazy to release new consoles and keep the gap between PC and consoles at a minimum. But that's not going to happen and I expect they'll just do whatever makes them the most money, regardless of the quality of the product.

i still have my original xbox and gamecube. i play morrowind on the xbox. i play eternal darkness on my cube. i'm not sure about what you are saying my argument is missing.

plus, it's based on a possible future of rules and regulations.

I'm thinking of upgrading my PC too. At the moment I can only run things on medium settings and play on my Xbox. However, I don't want to invest loads of money into new PC in case the next gens can run the game better and are a better value for money.

It would be nice if future systems were designed with the possibility of implementing hardware upgrades over time, to prevent this type of gap from developing. Of course, in order to maximize profits, the manufacturers would probably opt to include some sort of proprietary aspect to the hardware upgrades, but it seems like that would extend the shelf life of the next gen consoles. What do you think?

It seems they could re-release Skyrim as a 'Game of the Year/Games On Demand' version for the next Xbox with some graphic updates. A lot of the classic Xbox games were re-released on the 360.

yeah but there is no point, did they port Jack X racing or any other ps2 games? no. they won't do it for skyrim that will be 2-3 years old by the time it's released. no way it's being ported.

I agree, id like to see an android or apple, or sega console again for example.

The thing is though, (at least i think so) releasing next gen consoles early might not work money time

when a new console comes out who buys it : rich SoBs, and enthusiasts,

i would say it takes about 3 years for causuals and people less fortunate to get one, thats about a half way mark. I imagine that most of there markets (all consoles currently) came about the middle period.

That being said, they have to drain that market for 3-4 more years. Releasing a console every 3 years unfortuanetly would not do well. Money wise

and, do you really think it would be that much of a graphic improval?

original halo and remix halo are worlds apart and worth money.

unless, stupid buyers is going to be the major selling point of the next generation.

Im okay with this. As long as developers make the games run on the original hardware, but if you got the upgrades, you get better looking and performing games, everyone is happy, except developers

will this happen.. no

i don't think so.

it costs money to remake the game for the next gen. it's not a kinect-like feature.

I agree, I'm much less concerned about graphics than I am about the game having a truly epic feel. I'd like to see 100+ characters on a battlefield with siege engines and dragons flying overhead, and dynamic fire crawling across the grassy plains... you get the idea.

This is what makes games like Halo a lot of fun. Sure the graphics are pretty lame, but there's these huge battles with tons of crazy stuff going on: dozens of enemies and allies - all with their AI running, vehicles all around, explosions everywhere... and never is there even a slight hic-up in the engine performance.

I would NOT want it to be like Kingdom Under Fire though, where all the enemies are brain-dead, and they throw tons of them in just because they can.... although this does work for Dead Rising, but those enemies are supposed to be brain-dead.

no no your misunderstanding, someone suggested that the next gen should have the ability to have hardware upgrades


what i suggested that if this was to be implemented, developers would have to make games work with the out of the box standard systems, but if you decided to buy updrages for the console, games would also have to compensate that. Basically in skyrim, the version would have to come with multiple ini files

Not going to happen.


Heck, they haven't even tried to update Fallout 3 to work out-of-the-box on Windows 7. And that's much more recent. (And not nearly the update that improving graphics engine & textures would be)


re: "they'll make us download everything!".... not by 2013, they won't. Too much of the US (a primary market) has crap for broadband. They're not quite ready to jettison a good portion of their potential market just yet.

when it comes to new games im 95% sure none of them will be backwards compatible, simply to force people to buy the new console in order to play game

this is one of the reasons i use a pc, i dont depend on whatever new generation console they make. the worst that can happen is that i will need to upgrade a few components or wait for an emulator if they make a game console only

though the latter is unlikely because games designed for consoles usually have controls i cannot stand

dae think that in the future there effectively won't be any difference between a console and a pc?

which is what i will do if consoles go that route.

heck, i'm already on my way. screw the consoles. i'll just buy my controller and be gone.

About a year ago there was rumors that Apple might actually buy Nintendo (keeping it as its own brand of course).

Sega makes WAY more money strictly dealing with software now.

Yes, it seems that "new" games released after the 1.1, 1.2, etc. hardware upgrades are released would simply need settings options that would allow them to run optimally depending on which version of the hardware each end user has. The games could run players through a mandatory setup when the game is first played, in which the proper settings would be identified and selected. That way no one is "locked out" of being a ble to play the latest games, but those with the hardware upgrades would be able to play them using graphical settings and other features that don't continually lag behind the latest pc capabilities.

LOVE that game!

Anyone else think that Eternal Darkness had an influence on Skyrim? The way you combine words to make Dragon Shouts is very similar to Eternal Darkness' magic system. The dungeon puzzles are very similar too.