"The charge level of a staff is based on a corresponding skill of the mage wielding it. For example a wizard with high destruction skill would get a lot more use from Staff of Fireball"

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This means that Enchanting affects how much soul gems recharge the staff, but your Destruction governs how much damage it will do.

Yet people are claiming that skill levels do nothing.

I think it svcks though, Enchanting should effect it, not the magic school.
Oh well, guess it's still cool to have for when you want to save magicka...

It kind of makes sense from a logical point of view but, in terms of game mechanics, it's a bad decision in my opinion. Staff of destruction are attractive to people who svck at destruction. If I already am an almighty mage, why do I need a staff? To save magicka? hell not, I will drink a potion and continue my duel-wielding carnage of fire thanks.

It's a good weapon for hybrid mages who put points into health or stamina or use armor hidering their mana regeneration, so it's a good decision imo

The Staff canolizes your power trough its Enchantment. It doesn't create power from nothing.

So normal weapons are for warriors, and staves are for warriors that use magic.


And not to forget that you can only give more power to the staff magic by not using it, but using the skill that boost it....

That blows. I was hoping to trade off my character's lack of magical aptitude for enchanting/alchemy aptitude. "Simulated magicka via mechanical means"

Mods will fix this in time though, they will just have to change the link of the staff boost to enchanting.

This is good. It makes perfect sense that staves should compliment mages.

It doesn't compliment mages though, it only saves them from using magicka in the school they use, and saving them from increasing their associated skill, and saving them from duel wielding stronger magic.

The question now is, do staves give experience in that skill for being used? If so then I could make a battlemage with really low magicka.

Who says using magic with a staff has no effect on your skill? Unless you have a reliable source, I think it's entirely possible it can help you level up.

Using a staff will lvl your enchanting skill.

So staves don't use "charges" like in the past games? Do they just allow users to wield a certain spell without having learned it before?

We don't know the exact damage calculation yet. I think that it's a mix between Enchantment and Magic-School.
But yes, Staves will only Level Up your Enchanting Skill.

Agreed, glad that mages will be better with staves than warriors and thieves, it would be silly otherwise. Hopefully the staff spells also get boosted by both the school perks and the enchant perks, since both seem to apply. (Ex. the enchant perks for better fire enchants and the destruction perks for better fire spells should both improve staff spells imo)

Also, it does help the wizard, essentially making it so all their magicka can be spent on the off hand spell while they use enchant reserves in the other hand. Not everyone wants to carry tons of potions around. Also, potions really make anyone great at everything, so considering them as a staple makes the whole argument absurd.

Oh well, better than Oblivion where warriors were better off with them (due to lack of other magical ability to compensate) but they didn't level ANYTHING. I think it would be better if they gave a little experience to the school of the spell they use, but this is still better in every way than how it was in Oblivion regardless.

Awesome! this is exactly what I wanted improved from Oblivion!

Enchanting affects how much soul gems recharge the staff. Much more logical IMO.

This is how it works. I do not know if using staves levels enchanting but the word is that it does which seems logical considering that smithing can be leveled by upgrading items & making ignots/leathers.

Why would anyone want to use a staff on early lvls though? Wouldn't be more beneficial if you use the magic from your hands, since you will lvl your skill that way?
Using a staff will only hold you down, at least till you reach soft/hard cap, then it's a nice magicka saver.

By using staves you can increase enchanting skill

So I use my staff to increase my enchanting skill so I can get the perk to increase elemental damage with my staff....
OR I use my destruction and suddenly I'm able to do more damage with my staff.
Nice.

I have enchanting and disenchanting for that.

If I use a one handed sword, my one handed sword attacks become stronger. If I use a staff, my staff attacks wont become stronger. It will effect something I don't do with a staff.