Yeah, they don't take PC games back most of the time because a lot of them have DRM. Case in point.

Most normal people don't make a new Steam account for every single game they buy. The average Steam account has $788.62 worth of games on it.

DRM exists to curb used sales. So do the "online passes" seen in games like ME3, GeoW3, UC3, and MW3.

I got Fallout 3 the same time as I got a new puppy.

Leaving your disc in its case with the instruction manual (including the CD key) on the dining table?

Not a good idea, unless you don't mind coming home to find your case devoured, your manual torn to shreds, and your disc lying scratched to hell outside in the dirt (not a frisbee, btw).

I would've paid extra to have Fallout 3 on Steam.

Game stores aren't the only way to sell and buy used games.

Which is against Steam's Terms of Service, and they have full power to terminate your accounts over it.

DRM chat always comes with a lock.

better to just google research it as no forums going to allow discussion of it as they always end with some maroon posting links to thievery.


lets get back to lenslok security,or a more secure media like flash drives [they are cheap enough these days] they wont be able to herd the gamers as if they are just cash cows with it,but it would work.

Not true. The cd only contains the main files, but no .exe. You need the .exe to even run the game, and a pirate won't be able to create one, unless the game uses the same .exe like valve games. The only way for a steam game to be pirated early is if a review copy is leaked to crackers. Also, this is the same thing with preloading, no .exe, and the files are all encrypted. It would take forever for the games encryption to be broken too, it's not going to happen unless you have a supercomputer to just repeatedly try to find the right code to decrypt it.

They stopped taking pc games when the drm started making it not worth it. Some games need a disc check, others need this or that. It's easier to ban all pc game resales then pick and choose based on drm. Steam is just an updated version, of an already existing "no resale" tool. Also, resale doesn't just mean gamestop etc, it means your buddy down the street, or eBay, craigslist etc etc. The trouble it takes you to manage separate accounts for every game inorder to have a chance of selling it isn't worth the effort. Especially when no one will trust you that it's legit, and the fact that if your ever caught somehow the account will be banned, and the game gone. Steam is just a "no resale" tool, where everything is controlled by them, not you, and you don't own jack and can't do jack with it, as compared to a console game.

Btw, I bet next gen consoles WILL require an Internet connection, and every game WILL need to be registered through xbox live etc etc. Finally killing resale. By the time they come out all early aropters will have a connection, and by the time it's main stream so will everyone else. It's going to happen, mark my words. Btw, xbox live will be free too. The money saved through no reselling will fund it, no subscriptions!!! Main selling point, so idiots don't realize what they are losing.

They stopped taking PC games back, back in the 80's before superDRM. Mostly because CD drives & hard drives were finally pretty common, and it was safe to assume that if someone was trying to return a game, they'd already ripped it to their hard drive.

I think Steam is an extremely good DRM. It's not invasive like Securom, and it might not prevent piracy after a game is released, but it does a **** good job of keeping games from getting released early. The only case where it isn't prevented is when pirates are somehow supplied with a .exe (either through a leak, modified demo .exe, etc). Otherwise the pirates can sit there and look at the data all day but they still don't get a .exe out of it.

So you're completely impervious to accidents?

Stores that have sold it broke the street date which is against the law.

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