TES VI Location and Setting Speculation #31

Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:31 pm

Bethesda hasn't commented about the future of the Elder Scrolls series, but one of the most common topics of speculation is where the next game will be set. Rather than trying to keep this in the official suggestion/discussion thread we've decided to give this a separate topic.


This discussion doesn't need to be tied entirely to geography; other setting details are also appropriate. However, let's keep this focused on the game world and leave other matters (such as gameplay mechanics or NPCs) in the main "http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1593816-official-beyond-skyrim-tes-vi-74/" thread



http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1595068-tes-vi-location-and-setting-speculation-30/

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Naomi Ward
 
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:40 pm

Thras. I want an entire game centered around Thras. Water full of bloated slug-people? Check. Giant phallic obelisk that penetrates through to Oblivion? Check and 'Ooooh My'... Lack of any real development leaving an almost entirely blank slate instead of oversimplifying an already somewhat developed people? Check.


It hits all the right buttons.
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Dalia
 
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Post » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:54 am

Thras definitely should be explored in some sort of DLC, perhaps for Hammerfell? Exploring the nature of necromancy and the culture of the Sload should be quite interesting. Large hive-like Sload cities made of coral, similar to the ruins found on Alinor, connected by intricate networks of coral formations and ancient shipwrecks. Other factions could be active in Thras aside from powerful Sload nercomancers and Sload clans, such as Tamrielic necromancers, Maormer pirates and slavers, even Aldmeri Dominion galleons and Redguard privateers. Thras would also surely be one of the strangest locations to ever be featured in a TES game, an alien landscape, populated by rogue experiments of the Sload, undead and Daedra of the thrall and feral varieties and sea monsters. As for dungeons, various Sload laboratories and pirate fortresses.

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Kirsty Wood
 
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:08 pm

Could I play as a Sload? No? Then I don't think that would work. There's a reason their culture has been so obscure for so long, they're hard to get to and even harder to actually communicate with. If I recall correctly Mannimarco managed to get some rapport but his a bit of a special case...



I want to finally see the Akaviri in flesh instead of just reading vague third hand accounts without so much as a sketch to satisfy the curiosity.

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Christina Trayler
 
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Post » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:22 am

Then let me ask ...have you ever seen a Scimitar? ;) But no I dislike the entire sword ,some points:


1.First scmitar is a collective name for curved middle eastern(mostly) swords so there are many different types but:


2.This is are scimitars ,http://www.swordsantiqueweapons.com/images/s768.jpg,http://files.thecobbs.com/a19_lot94_0-max.jpg,http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/items/57/004657/ph-0.jpg Notice the blade shapes.




The Blade of the Skyrim scimitar looks like it's from a cartoon it looks like they copied Disneys Aladdin and the guard just looks terrible and would hurt.

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Stu Clarke
 
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:35 pm

No, I've never seen one "in the flesh", so to speak. However, I have seen images (as I stated previously) and many of said images show a blade exactly like or similar to the one in Skyrim. If you think the one in Skyrim "looks like it's from a cartoon", well technically, it is. Bethesda's art designers had an idea of how they wanted it to look and went with it. Yeah, it may not be an exact copy of a real world weapon but it's close enough.
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Mr. Ray
 
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:12 pm

Then could you please show me your pictures?You know antiques.You may find some chinese swords like the Dadao with that kind of blade but that's it.




Yes and I think the art direction for the scmitar and many other sword looked like garbage.

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Georgine Lee
 
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Post » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:40 am

Wow. So after looking I couldn't find any historical antique images of the type I was describing. All I could find was this modern replica: http://casiberia.com/product/scimitar/sh2354 . What is that? That (along with the slimmer versions you posted above) are what I've always seen when scimitars are mentioned. Is that based on a real or fantastical sword because (minus the wonky handle) it looks exactly like the one in Skyrim.


That said, if the above sword is not based on an actual real world sword, then I believe the weapon BGS took their inspiration from was this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilij . Just a very exaggerated version of a Kilij.
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:48 pm


Google Moorish Scimitar. You know, the type of Scimitar I linked a picture of. Actually, i'll just link them.


http://static.webshopapp.com/shops/030351/files/009004793/moorish-scimitar.jpg


http://www.toledosword.com/im/Scimitar_Cutlass_Sword.jpg


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/z/KhIAAMXQCgpRsqFs/$T2eC16V,!ysE9sy0iO3nBRsqFsc+P!~~60_1.JPG


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5c/9a/23/5c9a23a00624ece9cc5816e12d4e1567.jpg



The Moors were African Arabs who occupied Spain for centuries, from around 700ce to the 1400's. There is some debate on whether or not their sword design is actually a scimitar, or an early cutlass, but it was cemented in European Culture as the quintessential weapon of the Arabs because of the prolonged exposure to it. But it is absolutely an authentic type of weapon.

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Post » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:49 am

Thank you! I was starting to think I was imagining it!
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Andrea Pratt
 
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:01 pm

How receptive to visitors would the Sload actually be?



Also: how safe would it be to visit them? Weren't they the origin of the Khnaten (sp?) flu?



Finally: from what I understand from lore, the Sload are aligned with various daedra, but opportunisitically (as opposed to genuinely worshipping any of them.) It seems to me this could lead to some interesting possibilities. Say, for instance, Mephala felt she had been cheated in a deal with the Sload. Perhaps you could be her agent of retribution.

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Christina Trayler
 
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:09 pm

Thras and a Sload DLC would be really cool. Perhaps try to tie them into the Thalmor conflict.

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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:30 pm


Interesting! When one thinks of it, the Thalmor and Sload are likely natural enemies.


My reasoning:


The Thalmor seem to believe themselves to be the 'pure' altmer, ultra-orthodox in their ideals, principles and beliefs. This would, by definition, include an extreme devotion to the Aedra.


Clearly the Sload deal with Daedra only thru concern in what they can gain from the exchange. Nevertheless, there is almost certainly a convergence of interests between the two regarding the Altmer and their preoccupation in causing them harm and misfortune.



Such a DLC would dwarf Shivering Isles in scope and significance. It would indeed be excellent territory for story building.

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Post » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:06 am

Speaking of the Thalmor:



Let's take bethesda at their word that they want to continue having the Thalmor feature prominently in the next 1-2 games.



Which provinces are ELIMINATED by that for ES6? In other words - which provinces make the least sense to use if the Thalmor are supposed to play an important role?



Off the top of my head, I'd guess High Rock.

Not that one couldn't write a solid story involving High Rock and the Thalmor; it just seems the least likely because of its geographical location and the relative lack of news regarding High Rock and the Great War.



Turning this around a bit: what provinces are 'favored' for a Thalmor storyline?


I think that Argonia/Black Marsh should be one of those.


Think how often Argonia was mentioned in Skyrim regarding the movement of elven weapons thru its territory.


Also consider how the Thalmor almost certainly detest the Daedra-worshipping Dunmer. An alliance of convenience between the Thalmor and the Argonians would be natural, even expected.

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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:06 pm

Pretty much any of the Southern provinces and Hammerfell make sense for the Thalmor storyline, with Alinor making the most sense, of course. Actually, the fact that the Thalmor suddenly renamed Summerset Isle into Alinor might be a clue where the next game is set. Perhaps Bethesda decided that TES VI: Alinor sounds cooler and more marketable than TES VI: Summerset Isle.

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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:15 pm


It's heavily implied that the Dominion controls Balfiera, and may have taken control of remaining Drenni holdings in and around Highrock. So, they're likely everywhere.



We know they have a presence in Hammerfell, as we are told that there is an active resistance against them (though the source is admittedly not entirely reliable).



We know they are in Valenwood and Elsweyr, as well as Summerset, because they are the 3 Provinces that make up the Dominion.



We can suspect they are in Blackmarsh, as the Argonians seem to have access to cheap Elven goods which they are selling to the Stormcloaks. Considering the Dominion's candid support of the Rebels, it seems rather likely that they are using the Argonians as intermediaries.



Basically... the Thalmor are everywhere.

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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:48 pm

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned here, but there been some admittedly far-fetched speculation circulating the web and originating from Reddit that a character in Fallout 4 is a hint at TES 6, both its release date and location.


For those who do not know, in Fallout, Gen-3 Synths (mostly-organic androids) have a designation. For most Synths, it takes the form of a letter and number, followed by a dash, followed by two more numbers, such as A3-21 or X6-88. To my knowledge, only three Gen-3 Synths- A-2018, XPN-20A and Z4K-97B- are designated differently, and only one of them- A-2018- has a completely unique designation format. The speculation is that his name is hinting that 2018 will be the release date for TES 6, and that A refers to the location, meaning Alinor, the Aldmeri Dominion, or Argonia.


Admittedly this is about as solid as that "Half Life 3 Confirmed" nonsense. But to add a few drops of fuel to this prediction (primarily due to wishful thinking on my part, since I admittedly want TES 6 to be in Alinor), I recall a piece of dialogue in Fallout 4, that I'd very much like to be foreshadowing.

The Summersets are nice. You'll like them.


(If anyone's wondering the context in Fallout is that the Summersets are a couple that run a restaurant)

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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:24 pm

Personally, I'm intrigued at the idea of the Thalmor still having a presence in Hammerfell. Supposedly, the Aldmeri Dominion forces withdrew from Hammerfell after the signing of the Second Treaty of Stros M'Kai, though, admittedly, a lot could have happened in between the writing of "The Great War" and the events of The Elder Scrolls: V - Skyrim. The prospect that Kematu is lying and actually working for the Aldmeri Dominion is, while somewhat less likely, still very interesting. If the Thalmor do still have some presence in Hammerfell, perhaps they control an enclave of some sort, perhaps even Stros M'Kai. I however find it more likely that the Thalmor have agents spread throughout Hammerfell, partaking in assassinations, intelligence gathering, sabotage and the recovery of precious artifacts of the Yokudan or Dwarven variety. Really anything to combat the reemergent Ansei. Plus, this way, the Thalmor could direct role in the Satakals becoming major antagonists, the Great War poisoning their ideology and manipulating them into pursuing a religious uprising against the Forebears and the Crowns, not understanding the true scope of their power, nor their plans, to resurrect the Celestial Sep, the Serpent to remake Nirn.



As for that "Summersets" easter egg, it seems rather convincing. While we can brush off most references to other provinces in Skyrim as just world-building, a province being name-dropped like that in Fallout can only be either a teaser or a somewhat random though admittedly clever easter egg. Imagine if some Breton mentioned a "commonwealth" in High Rock or something of that caliber. Basically, if Alinor is announced as the setting in a few years time, I won't be surprised.

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Post » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:55 am


I won't be surprised, but I would be rather disappointed. It seems like a poor use of a good villain, or a dissatisfying bit of filler. Either they use it to deal with the Thalmor (far, far too early) or they basically spin their tires and waste the ability to build an epic confrontation by revealing too much of the Thalmor power base too early.



As the story stands so far, I think Summerset is probably the worst choice on the map. And that's including repeats or provinces we've seen.

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Post » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:31 am

I severely doubt that Thalmor will ever be the main villain in any game, but rather have a more or less background role similar to the empire in previous games. I

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Agree, Alinor should be TES VII and be a huge conclusion to the Thalmor issue with TES VI being the build up.
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:52 pm

Same. I'd be so disappointed if the next game is set in Alinor.
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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:47 pm

I'm along these lines of thinking too, but considering the consoles I would hope we could get two provinces in there. Instead of TES VI: Alinor...we get TES VI: Dominion. Have Alinor/SI and Valenwood. And I hope the main quest is one where you help remove the Thalmor from power and restore the monarchy.


Here is the advantage of having both provinces in the game though: boats. Actual moving vessels between the provinces, possible ownership of a ship etc. Could do a lot of interesting things with the tiny islands in between Alinor and the mainland.

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Post » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:12 pm



Doing two provinces is such a bad idea. Doing that is going to make Bethesda half ass two things instead of doing one well. And if it's done in hammerfell or Alinor there's still plenty of options for sea vessels.
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That is a good point, I'm just sort of hoping that with the addition of a new studio...at the very least it won't be any worse than the last few titles.


I'm also just really hoping for not Hammerfell. We've done 2 Man provinces in a row, and the plot in the one centered around a nasty Mer faction rising up that I would really just want to see done away with. I want to get into Alinor and take down the Thalmor. They bring shame to the name "Aldmeri Dominion". Hell, they even bring shame to the name "Thalmor".

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