TESIV:POSItive -Performance & Optimization Info : IV - Oblivion

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:20 pm

I will add the bit about the hardware acceleration. That is important. However, I think you can get a card to meet that requirement for a price near to that value, and there is always Ebay when you are looking for cheap. I got an X-FI Xtreme Gamer sound card for a price I cannot even remember off the top of my head.

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=57&name=Sound-Cards

I am going to update your page now. Thanks for the updates.

Edit: missed the link, thanks

Edit: FPS ranges? Also, the bottom section is for anything without an ESP you want mentioned.

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:38 pm

Oh, you've been updating formats. Ok.

FPS Range Cities: 10-30.
FPS Other 20-30

Both capped by OSR, so it never drops under 10 or goes over 30.

I also keep forgetting what OBSE plugins I'm using, so Elys Silent Voice 0.93, Conscribe, and FastExit2 should be there too.

Got me if the estimate on 3-4 hours between crashes is right, as long as I stay clear of the SE area around Kvatch the game seems content to play on. I'll have to see if I can find my ginormous list of non-ESP mods, because it's pretty big and I remember saving it in a text file for that very reason

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:27 am

Oh, you've been updating formats. Ok.

FPS Range Cities: 10-30.
FPS Other 20-30

Both capped by OSR, so it never drops under 10 or goes over 30.

I also keep forgetting what OBSE plugins I'm using, so Elys Silent Voice 0.93, Conscribe, and FastExit2 should be there too.

Got me if the estimate on 3-4 hours between crashes is right, as long as I stay clear of the SE area around Kvatch the game seems content to play on. I'll have to see if I can find my ginormous list of non-ESP mods, because it's pretty big and I remember saving it in a text file for that very reason

Yup, trying to keep things fresh...I am curious about what is in that list now...

...but I will have to retire before you post it here, probably. Thank you for the updates.

New Load Order Pages:

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/albertine

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/camaro-69_327

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/fearil

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/heyyou

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/bladeofmercy

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/vegtabill

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/arthmoor

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:09 am

Told you this was big:

Spoiler

Graphics:

QTP3 Redimized, partially substituted with pieces of Mikal's improved architecture textures
Bomret's SI Texture Pack
Hi-Res Oblivion Realm Textures
AWLS+Chimneys
Improved Doors & Flora
Improved Trees & Flora 1+2
Improved Signs
Improved Tapestries
Improved Fruits, Vegetables, and Meats
Improved Amulets & Rings
Mike's Clothing Replacer
Cali's Female Finery
Rusty Items
Fine Weapons
Better Staff Textures
Otup Armor Textures
Kalikut's Glass Armor
Better Looking Tools
Better Potion Bottles
Better Wine + Better Wine SI
Book Jackets OB+SI+DLC
Cyrodiilic Brandy Graphic
Sky texture compliation from several sources
Improved Horse Armors
Improved Fire Spell Animation
Leviathan Soul Gems
Loading Screens
Replaced Map Loop Video (initial menu background etc)
Skinned Hounds
Reskinned Skeletons
Shining Flame Atronachs
Slaughterfish Retexture
Cyrodiil Terrain Map - Modified by Fearabbit to add Bartholm, Leyawiin Reborn, Sutch, and roads from NRB4.
Lennybook's Oblivion Eyes
Alternate Summon Undead Animation
VA's Better Gold
Visually Realistic Lava
Gorier Blood
AmpolX's clutter textures
AmpolX's wood furniture textures
AmpolX's god statue textures
Themythofstrider's Mythic Animals and Mythic Creature retextures
Koldorn's Sewers

Sound:

Symphony of Violence
Oblivion Stereo Sound Overhaul
Oblivion Symphonic Variations
Louder Nirnroots
A mixed bag of more intense weather sounds, especially thunders

Sad part is, I can't be sure this is all of it because I repackaged all the archives in larger more convenient files and in the process all of these enhancers got packed into custom BSAs.

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:09 pm

perfect, thanks

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:32 am

perfect, thanks

Might want to change the Date of update for Arthmoor....lol Load Order - Last update: 12/24/2010 heheh thats sometime in the Future...

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:19 am

Might want to change the Date of update for Arthmoor....lol Load Order - Last update: 12/24/2010 heheh thats sometime in the Future...

haha, thanks, will do

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:15 am

Cool! Post your updated load order here tomorrow with your latest info, haha.

Good night!
- Tomlong75210

Hello! I have a SIGNIFICANT UPDATE for you! (Did I set that off enough? maybe some exclamation points are needed, or something?)

Seriously though, my experience today is quite a bit different from yesterday, and in a good way. The main thing, I am convinced, was your catch of those two plugins I had running that added AI scripts every time I encountered NPCs. That change alone made such a huge difference, it is pretty staggering. I mentioned to you the fight I got into in Sercen before calling it a night, and how the FPS never dipped below 10. That in itself is awesome. But it gets better...

As you know, I've been trying to find the last little bits of extra juice that I can squeeze out of my system. This has led me to toying around some with OSR and the algorithms available. I had thought that I had found the best fit for my system with his algorithm 5. Well, it occurred to me this morning that some of what I had been seeing in game may have been due more to those AI plugins than anything else, and figured this might be good time to try different settings w/ OSR again. So I switched it back to algorithm 1, using the included BorlandMM DLL. Wow. I mean, really, wow! Holy crap, what a huge difference. I could go on and on about how smooth it is, and almost completely stutter-free. Yes, it gets down around 10 FPS in those heavier AI moments, but never below and it stays smooth! I feel like I am finally seeing what OSR was really meant to do.

Like I said, I could go on and on. It is that big of a difference, and that's without getting a sound card yet. This morning after I made my tweaks and tested, I played for 4 hours straight... no CTD, no nothing! 4 hours. I may have to update my average playing time before CTD soon if this keeps up, another good thing!

OK, so that's the update. But I am sure you'd like to have the updated load order, as well as the non-plugin mods and OBSE addons for my build. So, here you go... This is up to this morning, and I think it has everything I was lacking last night. I still will be updating playing time and FPS rates, as both have improved significantly, but I'm not sure exactly how much just yet.

OBSE: updated to 0018 stable this morning
Elys Uncapper, Elys Universal Silent Voices, Enhanced Music Control, Fast Exit 2, Pluggy, OSR (w/ Component DLLs needed for algorithm 1)

No Plugin Mods:

Graphics:
Bomret's Normal Maps
Corepc's Vibrant Textures
AWLS + Chimneys
Low Poly Grass and Low Poly Grass SI
Short Grass
HGEC Body 1.21
HiRes Skin Graphics for HGEC (2048x2048) with HiRes Face Texture
Luchaire's Body Seam Reducer
EVE for Armamentium, Artifacts, Frans, MMM, OOO
Robert's Male v5
Robert's Male addons for Stock, SI, Frans, MMM, OOO, Armamentium, Artifacts
Map Loop Video (main menu video in the background)
Color Map Mod + Color Map Mod SI

Sound:
Symphony of Violence

Load Order:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]
02 Jog_X_Mod.esm
03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
08 VASE - core.esm
09 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0A FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0B Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0C Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
0D Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
0E NNWAEMaster.esm
0F CM Partners.esm
10 HorseCombatMaster.esm
11 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.4]
12 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
13 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
14 DLCShiveringIsles.esp [Version 1.4.0]
++ Shivering OOO.esp
15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
18 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
** LoadingScreens.esp
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
1A WindowLightingSystem.esp
1B Adonnays Ranger Coats.esp
1C Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
1D Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp
1E ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
1F RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.7]
20 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.5]
++ RealWalk.esp
21 Reznod_Mannequin.esp
22 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 3.4.3]
23 DLCHorseArmor.esp
24 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
25 DLCOrrery.esp
26 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
27 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
28 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
29 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
++ ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
2A BlackLuster.esp
++ playable golden saint and dark seducer armour.esp
2B Slof's Boners! v5.esp
2C Thieves Arsenal.esp
2D XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
2E KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]
++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2F Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
30 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
31 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
32 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
33 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
34 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
35 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
36 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
37 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
38 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp [Version 0.5]
++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
39 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]
3A ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
3B FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
3C FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3F Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
42 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp
++ VASE - Vanilla SI.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.40Alpha]
43 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
44 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
45 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Archery.esp
++ FCOM_Archery_Armamentarium.esp
++ FCOM_Archery_Artifacts.esp
++ FCOM_Archery_RealSwords.esp
++ FCOM_Archery_MMM_H&C.esp
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
++ Fransfemale.esp
** LoadingScreens-OOO.esp
46 Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp
47 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
48 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
49 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.2]
4A Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
4B Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
4C GlenvarCastle.esp
4D LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp
4E LostSwordOfTheAylied - OBSE Add-On.esp
4F Malevolent.esp
50 MountainTower.esp [Version 6.0]
51 NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp [Version 2.2]
52 NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp
53 NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp
54 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3]
55 TheForgottenShields.esp
56 thievery.esp
57 thievery - EE patch.esp [Version 1.0]
58 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
59 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
5A Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
5B DLCfrostcrag.esp
5C FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
5D Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1]
5E CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]
5F TOTF.esp
60 The Lost Spires.esp
61 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
62 MannimarcoRevisited.esp
63 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]
64 bartholm.esp
65 bartholm - EE patch.esp [Version 1.0]
66 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
67 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
68 AutoBookPlacer.esp
69 Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]
6A DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]
6B EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
6C P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
6D Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
++ Short Grass V3.esp
6E Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]
6F Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 1.0]
70 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
71 StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp
72 StarX VVR_OOO Patch.esp
73 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
74 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
75 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]
76 MidasSpells.esp
77 Multiple Enchantments.esp
78 attack and hide medium v2.1.esp
79 Deadlier Sneaking 1.1.esp
7A Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp
7B Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
7C Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp
7D Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp
7E CTAddPose_osr1.esp
7F CTAddPose_osr2.esp
80 CTAddPose_osr3.esp
81 actors_in_charge.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.76]
++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.78]
82 CM Partners.esp
83 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
84 CM Partners NPC.esp
85 CM Partners More NPCs.esp
86 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
87 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
88 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]
** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]
++ TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
89 TheOubliette.esp
8A Get Wet.esp
8B Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]
8C DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]
8D Bashed Patch, 0.esp
8E SWalk.esp
8F FormID Finder4.esp
90 Streamline 3.1.esp

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:42 pm

Are you using OSR v4.1? It includes the component DLLs by default. They are only used if you activate the relevant heap setting of course.

Edit: I saw that you already said you had v4.1...I guess you just opted not to install the DLLs...okay, I am just happy to hear that things are running so well.

@Arthmoor: If you see this, I would like to add the bit about the OSR settings changes you made, and maybe even some of your LAA experience.

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:08 pm

Are you using OSR v4.1? It includes the component DLLs by default. They are only used if you activate the relevant heap setting of course.

Yes, I am. I probably should have left that out, but I was trying to think of everything. Still, I don't want to confuse anyone. I have tweaked the heap settings, but that's really outside the scope of my load order and installed mods. Yeah, probably best to leave that part out.

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:14 pm

Actually, I think the OSR heap settings are quite relevant, not to mention interesting. I plan to get a page up for OSR INI tweaks in the future. What version of Pluggy are you using? I am going to change the OBSE format to that of the other list-type sections.

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:50 pm

Actually, I think the OSR heap settings are quite relevant, not to mention interesting. I plan to get a page up for OSR INI tweaks in the future. What version of Pluggy are you using? I am going to change the OBSE format to that of the other list-type sections.

I am running Pluggy 1.32. I believe it is the dev version, but one of the mods I'm running required it (can't recall which right now... and it may not have been that it required 1.32 per se, but just a higher version than 1.25b. I just can't remember... I'll see if I can dig that back up).

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:16 pm

I use v132 too.

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:09 am

Quick note: No plugin mods, music... I have Symphony of Violence. Everything else looks great!

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:16 pm

New Load Order Pages:

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/albertine

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/camaro-69_327

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/fearil

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/heyyou

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/bladeofmercy

Updated Pages:

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/arthmoor

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/runoblivion/loadorders/vegtabill

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:43 am

I'm just going to say, thanks for the effort you're putting into this. This is the most informative compilation of mod related situations I've seen to date. I refer to it quite often, and have learned things I have not known for sometime now. I definitely like the high emphatic warnings too.

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:46 pm

I'm just going to say, thanks for the effort you're putting into this. This is the most informative compilation of mod related situations I've seen to date. I refer to it quite often, and have learned things I have not known for sometime now. I definitely like the high emphatic warnings too.

Thank you. I am glad I finally managed to get the name changed to something a little more telling too.

If you have any suggestions for more topics you want to see, please let me know. <-- I should probably add this to the first post...I think I will....
- Tomlong75210

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:15 am

Sure, something like this?

Stability for this load order was not fully achieved until setting up OSR 4.1 using Heap 5 with a memory heap size of 1024. With the number of graphic enhancements installed, the normal settings were insufficient to avoid crashing due to memory overloads. Some people are able to get better performance using Heap 1, but in my setup that causes the game to crash after only a short time playing.

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:35 pm

Sure, something like this?

Stability for this load order was not fully achieved until setting up OSR 4.1 using Heap 5 with a memory heap size of 1024. With the number of graphic enhancements installed, the normal settings were insufficient to avoid crashing due to memory overloads. Some people are able to get better performance using Heap 1, but in my setup that causes the game to crash after only a short time playing.

Thanks, I will add this right-away.

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:50 pm

"Nvidia fog fix"
? What's that

» Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:41 pm

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/cps/black-screen-only-hud-visible
http://wryemusings.com/Wrye%20Bash.html#NvidiaFogFix

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:33 am

I've already said this elsewhere, but I'm making use of Tomlong's guides, at the moment particularly the FCOM install guide, and maaaaaaan... I am so happy this exists. I wish I would have had it the first time I installed FCOM last year. I'm practically in tears because it's so easy to follow. It's like being told you have to run 5 miles in an hour and thinking, "Okay, I'm in good shape; I can do it if I have to. Man this is going to svck, but people are depending upon me, and I gotta do it..." and then someone pulling up beside you in a car and being like, "Man, you need a ride, bro?"

And you're like YESSS I need a ride!! Thank you so much!

Okay, bad anology, could be the tea talking, but this guide is great. Should be stickied (or maybe it is and I didn't notice!).

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:32 am

Although my display drivers were not shutting off - removing needless background processes associated with Nero 7 as described http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1085521-display-driver-has-stopped/page__view__findpost__p__15824938 and http://www.help2go.com/Tutorials/Software_Utilities/Disable_Nero_Scout_in_Nero_7.html seems to have really cut down on ctds. I was noticing that the bloatware program nero scan would have excessive CPS use and in the task manager after a crash I would see 1,500,000 K usage.

Also configuring my virus protection for gaming helped a lot.

Still more work to do but finally got the game so that I could run hog-wild across many cells without a crash.

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:59 am

Although my display drivers were not shutting off - removing needless background processes associated with Nero 7 as described http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1085521-display-driver-has-stopped/page__view__findpost__p__15824938 and http://www.help2go.com/Tutorials/Software_Utilities/Disable_Nero_Scout_in_Nero_7.html seems to have really cut down on ctds. I was noticing that the bloatware program nero scan would have excessive CPS use and in the task manager after a crash I would see 1,500,000 K usage.

Also configuring my virus protection for gaming helped a lot.

Still more work to do but finally got the game so that I could run hog-wild across many cells without a crash.

Thank you for the info Psymon. I will not this on the Stabilization or Optimization page (or both). Your name is already on the "Acknowledgments" page, but I guess I can switch your thank you to "more than can be listed here...".

» Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:19 am

RE: Acknowledgments - not even necessary for me - I'm powered by caffeine, not praise. But thanks

Might want to note that you thank both Display Name is in Use and Vorians - even though they are one and the same.