I, the Dovahkiin, Hero of Skyrim, Slayer of Alduin, cannot c : V - Skyrim

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:59 pm

god i hate these forums

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:02 pm

god i hate these forums

god i hate trolls

Spoiler

unless i'm the one trolling.... :evil:

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:01 pm

god i hate these forums

Constructive, positive criticism ftw.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:28 am

So one of the most basic RPG skills, Climb Walls, is non-existant in this world? Must make things really easy for the local guards...

"So, where do you think that Thief has gone? Should we search outside the gates?"

"No need. Everyone knows you can't go over the walls. All we have to do is guard the gate and he cannot escape!"

Tsk.

I just ordered the game, based on Leo Laporte's recommendation on his radio show today...it should get here around tuesday-ish. Since they didn't implement a climbing skill, I don't suppose I should bother experimenting with, say, an innocent looking waif, who disguises herself as a boy when thieving to keep from getting a criminal reputation? Or is there a functional disguise skill?

There has never been any kind of disguise skill in an Elder Scrolls game... or wall walking for that matter. There used to be levitation, but that's been gone for a while.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:33 pm

Constructive, positive criticism ftw.

Like the OP correct? :whistling:

Oh indeed i feel like he has an amazing point, his mentioning of assassin creed is probably what convinced me of the righteousness of his cause.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:53 am

Levitation is really the only thing removed from TES that could be Justified ( Towns are separate cells etc.) I too don't like the fact you can't even get up some not very steep surfaces, it's really limited compared to the last two games, that's not even including a high acrobatics skill.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:55 pm

Heh, well of course you and the horse aren't going to be able to stand still on a 90 degree angle. I was just talking about the "lightly gripping the reins" part.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:15 am

Yea it doesn't make much sense, however just hop on a horse, they can climb 80° angles.

Yep, screw logic.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:15 pm

I remember a topic many months ago hoping for some kind of climbing ability, either to be able to climb up onto rooftops (I mean, seriously? A thief using a door? In medieval times? Really?) or up mountains. I agree - it's annoying.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:19 am

ummm.......

I lol'd

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:52 am

My comment on horses:

[img]http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/48192/1916859.jpg[/img]

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:27 pm

LOL "Make it like assasin'sc creed" - yeah because its that easy.

Assasin's creed is a game with MOSTLY CLIMBING, because thats what the devs focused on. AC is not as rich as ES in many other areas though, so you can't really request a feature that would cost SO MUCH to develop for bethesda with very little reward.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:36 pm

Reason #1 why I miss the Acrobatics skill.

This and athletics. Man do I miss them!

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:41 pm

My comment on horses:

[img]http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/48192/1916859.jpg[/img]

I lol'd

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:28 pm

complaining about climbing rocks in an rpg, god I love the internet

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:03 pm

yet another reason why they should bring back levitation!!

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:05 pm

You can't use it for the flat rocks that are straight up, but if you go to a mountain and turn backwards facing down the mountain with the camera at a angle looking down, and jump backwards you can climb up like a horse sort've.

Did this help anyone?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:29 pm

complaining about climbing rocks in an rpg, god I love the internet

Complaining about complainers on a forum, god I love idiots.

Op has a good point. Especially in a mountainous province like Skyrim bethesda shouldve really put some effort to this. The complete lack of logic and extremely annoying stuff are valid things to complain about.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:25 pm

Complaining about complainter on a forum, god I love idiots.

Op has a good point. Especially in a mountainous province like Skyrim bethesda shouldve really put some effort to this. The complete lack of logic and extremely annoying stuff are valid things to complain about.

yeah right there are no road to go up a mountain right? let's do this: no roads and climb all the way every mountain, so fun not encountering anything and not seeing anything but rocks, why do you need to climb in the first place? there are always limits in a game don't whine on everything that don't suits you

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:34 pm

yeah right there are no road to go up a mountain right? let's do this: no roads and climb all the way every mountain, so fun not encountering anything and not seeing anything but rocks, why do you need to climb in the first place? there are always limits in a game don't whine on everything that don't suits you

Of course there can be roads but the lack of a climbing mechanism is pretty stupid considering the amount of mountains. At least make it less obvious. Now I cant run up a slightly steep mountain side. As I already said theres nothing wrong with complaining about valid things. This is one such. "Why do I need to climb in the first place?" To get up the damn mountain without having to find the road leading there on the other side and thinking to myself how stupid a design choice this was.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:44 pm

Of course there can be roads but the lack of a climbing mechanism is pretty stupid considering the amount of mountains. At least make it less obvious. Now I cant run up a slightly steep mountain side. As I already said theres nothing wrong with complaining about valid things. This is one such. "Why do I need to climb in the first place?" To get up the damn mountain without having to find the road leading there on the other side and thinking to myself how stupid a design choice this was.

aaaand instead you find a way, come on it's such a big stress finding a stupid path? but of course we have spider-horses so no problem :disguise:

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:18 pm

aaaand instead you find a way, come on it's such a big stress finding a stupid path? but of course we have spider-horses so no problem :disguise:

Doesnt matter whether its a big stress or not, it still makes no sense. Spider horses only add to the problem. They make even less sense.

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/48192/1916859.jpg

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:18 pm

Thanks for the spoiler in the title.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:20 pm

So instead of just fixing entering towns by going over walls, which should be a trivial fix (Heck, MMOs have been handling nearly seamless zone control like this for a Looooong time...DAOC and WoW for example, doesn't even have loading screens except for dungeons (and in WoW, moving between continents/dimensions), just a momentary flicker as you approach visual range of the zone boundary (Loads both zones at the same time so you can just walk across at any point) they just removed any abilities that would allow you to do so?

-10 reality
+10 Laziness

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:01 pm

Doesnt matter whether its a big stress or not, it still makes no sense. Spider horses only add to the problem. They make even less sense.

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/48192/1916859.jpg

I know but it's impossible make sense for all, if there was a climbing skill it made sense that a 100kg nord in full iron armor and a giant warhammer could climb a mountain with no problem? It's just that to me it's not a big deal, not anything that compromise my fun in the game