The lack of dialogue is sorta getting to me. Yes, people say things when you pass by them, but that's about it. Skyrim even though it has these walking talking people feels alost humanely lifeless for me. Where's the old woman who sits on the bench that you can just have any old conversation with them. It was like that in Oblivion and Morrowind. Not just asking merchants or hotel managers rumors, but people themselves. I just want my hero to walk around and talk to Agatha the Strange for no other reason than she says wild and crazy stuff depending on the questions you ask her, etc.

What about the guards? Guards use to be useful or people you could also just talk to.

Now all I have is a world where people talk and walk and that's just about it. They aren't really personal to you. It's much like what Dragon Age Origins and DA2. DA2 you couldn't talk to anyone. They talked to themselves, but they didn't really talk to you.

You're in the world of Skyrim where everyone is a scripted human beings who only talks to each other and when you walk past them. Yeah. It makes my suspension of disbelief break because I feel like they are just scripted AI. Not real people.

I miss personal dialogue with random people. I went up to a random guard in Oblivion in the middle of the night, low on health and asked for directions and to see what's new.

Also, the people in Skyrim only talk to you, and it's usually one line and it is annoying! I miss just walking and listening to a conversation about the state of Morrowind, or discussing how they dislike mudcrabs. It truly made the world feel alive. Now it's just "It's always a fine day with you around!" and all the annoying things Adrienne Avenicci says.(I hate her)

There's nothing more frustrating than having your sense of realisim disturbed as you roleplay a talking cat who can shoot fireballs from his paws.

At the end of the day I can see where you're coming from but I still come accross characters with their own unique dialogue sets are there just like in all the previous games.

This one kind of falls into the "stuff you would have personally done differently" category.

Maybe you can create a MOD or appeal for one that adds some more dialogue choices?

Azrael
The Nord with the Sword

Umm, what? How does playing a Khajiit mage ruin your sense of realism? If actual races using a real class ruin your realism, I can't imagine what an error on Beth's end that ruins immersion or realism would do to you.

He's trying to be funny and snarky because he was invalidate my opinion.

As I said in the other topic, the dialogue could use some work. Even if they don't want to go back and make the game feel like you don't have to play a Nord to get dialogue that makes sense in most places... they could at least fix the triggers, because a lot of time the issue is the NPC's saying something like being a new member after I have done something (like completing a guild) that they can fix by not making them say it. A lot of the triggers are just wrong and it kills the immersion.

No.

I understand what you mean.

You're not the only person who feels this way either.

I would be surprised if there aren't MODs that add dialogue trees already in the game.

If there aren't such MODs already there is certainly an appetite for such a MOD.

I just find it's not that big a deal for me and doesn't get in the way of me enjoying the game.

Just because someone doesn't think identically to you does not mean they dislike you or think less of you.

Az

But mods should not be the answer to fix these things.

I'm really tired of the mod this and mod that. The fact that we need to mod this much to get in the game what should have been in the game is ridiculous in itself. And the fact that I a on a 360 and cannot access these mods, these mods don't really help me.

That's the typical PC gamer attitude for you, lets not hold the company to fixing these things... we'll just let the community do it and screw everyone else in the process that can't use them.

If that's the case then you have to ask yourself: "Can I keep playing a game that has not been developed to my personal and specific taste"?

Since you do not have the ability to MOD then everytime an NPC fails to acknowledge you as "Arch Mage", "Dragon Born", "Companion" or whatever then you need to create a reason for that which helps you to qualify such an oversight.

The fact that most Nords distrust magic and have absolutely nothing to do with the College of Winterhold is certainly a good excuse for the rest of Skyrim failing to acknowledge you as ArchMage.

It's no big leap of the imagination to surmise that the rest of Skyrim has not been given an update on your "Dragonborn status" as well.

Could they have done things differently?

Certainly.

Could they have done things better?

Opinion.

As I mentioned above though the point of the game is to entertain.

So when I say "Try not to let it spoil your game" I mean it.

Try not to look at is as fanbois call to overlook Bethesda's crimes against gamers...

But rather one gamer trying to help another get the most out of their game.

If you can't, I can accept that.

Az

Everyone in Whiterun SHOULD know you are Dragonborn. Hell, it was you who So for an NPC to then not know you exist is complete rubbish! It's annoying. I think they need to disable dialogue once you advance past a certain point. So if you are ARch mage, nobody will ask you to join the College or address you as apprentice.

They had it in Oblivion and I'm not just talking about Dragonborn stuff either. When I do the Forbidden Legends in Skyrim some friend finds out what I did in one of the ruins, okay how the hell did they do that while I was in a ruin.

And yet when I kill someone as a dark brotherhood member it doesn't greatly impact the people, in fact it's to normal. In Oblivion when in Bravil when you killed that man and had to stage it as an accident, you heard people whisper about the guy who got killed. That's general impact of the choices you have made.

When you read the couriers would put it in the news and people would acknowledge it. I understand that not everyone can acknowldge you as the guildmaster of the DB, that's understandable.

And your excuse is complete utter [censored] and balls. So the Nords from Whiterun magically know that I am a new member of the College, but somehow they cannot magically undertsand I'm the Archmage.

And that is a valid point for "all of Skyrim" however there are NPC's that should clearly know you are a ArchMage or whatever that don't or still treat you like a new member, or being cured of lycanthropy and NPC's still walk around saying you have fur growing out of your ears. Bad triggers are bad triggers... and they should be fixed.

Another one I absolutely love is the being in the Imperial Legion, a LEGATE, WEARING IMPERIAL ARMOR, aaand they (regular soldiers) treat me like a second class citizen instead of an officer of higher rank. Really, if that doesn't kill the immersion for you nothing will.

I miss Oblivion's random dialoge. I know some will bring up Morrowind's dialoge which had a whole bunch of text, it was a better system too.

The dialogue is amazing.

If it bothers you and you don't want mods that add more, then maybe it's time to move on?

Do you know what's wrong with Skyrim these days? Everyone used my good hammer in the Cloud District very often. Yes i know the signs say "I don't claim to be the best smith in Whiterun".

'Nuff said.

Really, the greetings are just mix ups in the files. It's something that's not that hard to fix.

As far as "everyone had dialogue in Morrowind" I think people forget how many NPCs had shared text trees.

I've heard others say the same

Goodbye

What a pointless comment... clearly someone who can't take criticism well nor can read.

I really do not like comments like this. Where people seem to make it my problem that the dialogue isn't what I expected. When it isn't my problem. Imo, it's a failure of the company of taking what was good and enhancing it. I liked Morrowind and Oblivion and found Oblivion took out the right things and added in the right things, imo. When making a game it isn't about rehauling every system they have. But refining the systems they do have.

There's very few quest/dialog mods out there right now, sadly.

The dialogue isn't changing. I don't know what you want? If you want better dialogue in future games, there's a wishlist thread for future TES.

And you know this how? You work for BS... oh right.

*sigh* I really don't understand you. One thread you claim Beth is trying to appeal to the casuals and then you praise them in another.