If the patch is out over next few days : V

» Wed May 16, 2012 6:51 am

getting worried about the lack of feedback from anyone at bethesda regarding the patch thats supposed to be out during the next week

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:50 pm

Because they can't release patch notes until the patch is certified and ready for distribution by Sony. Patience.

» Wed May 16, 2012 10:02 am

Because they don't know exactly what's in the patch until it's released.

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:17 pm

Because it doesnt fix anything concerning the lag issues...

O_O

» Wed May 16, 2012 5:22 am

Because it doesnt fix anything concerning the lag issues...

O_O

Thank you for such a helpful contribution to this thread.

In fact, Bethesda has specifically stated that one of the issues this patch is intended to resolve is the framerate lag players are experiencing in longer games. So they are at least trying to address the problem in this patch and they have acknowledged that it is a problem - if it isn't fully fixed in this patch I expect they'll continue to work on it.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:43 am

Because it doesnt fix anything concerning the lag issues...

O_O

Nooooooo. Dude, you shouldn't even joke about that. XD There are LIVES at stake!

» Wed May 16, 2012 5:02 am

Well these answers went slowly downhill. The first answer, wilco's answer, is the correct one. They have said they cannot tell us officially yet until it is certified. The other two answers (Alecto and Valkyre's) are baseless assumptions.

» Wed May 16, 2012 3:23 pm

In fact, Bethesda has specifically stated that one of the issues this patch is intended to resolve is the framerate lag players are experiencing in longer games. So they are at least trying to address the problem in this patch and they have acknowledged that it is a problem - if it isn't fully fixed in this patch I expect they'll continue to work on it.

The only thing stated was by Pete Hines and all he said was that it would "improve" long term play. Don't twist that into something its not. I truly hope it fixes the problems, but Bethesda has said nothing about it.

» Wed May 16, 2012 8:14 am

The only thing stated was by Pete Hines and all he said was that it would "improve" long term play. Don't twist that into something its not. I truly hope it fixes the problems, but Bethesda has said nothing about it.

Care to elaborate on what other long term play performance problems the game has aside from the framerate lag issues? Obviously he was referring to that one.

» Wed May 16, 2012 10:34 am

I hope they fix the companion issues I would like to be able to at least play the game in full. This is the only story quest that I have found is completely broke for all.

» Wed May 16, 2012 6:35 am

Thank you for such a helpful contribution to this thread.

In fact, Bethesda has specifically stated that one of the issues this patch is intended to resolve is the framerate lag players are experiencing in longer games. So they are at least trying to address the problem in this patch and they have acknowledged that it is a problem - if it isn't fully fixed in this patch I expect they'll continue to work on it.

Please provide me with that statement (exact wording) and a link. Then I will believe you.

Bethesda aka Peter Hines never said specifically about the lag issue NOTHING. They only said a vague "improves long term performance"...

was it truly about the lag issues?

Was it just to shut everyone up?

"Improves overall performance and stability" is mentioned in every single Bethesda patch. Guess how many patches were needed to fix Fallout New Vegas... now realise that even after all those patches that supposedly improved performance and stability, the problems were never solved...

So excuse me if I am not so optimistic...

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:11 pm

Please provide me with that statement (exact wording) and a link. Then I will believe you.

Bethesda aka Peter Hines never said specifically about the lag issue NOTHING. They only said a vague "improves long term performance"...

was it truly about the lag issues?

Was it just to shut everyone up?

He said it in response to someone asking about the PS3 lag issues. And then later someone asked him when the lag issues would be fixed, and he said the patch is still coming next week.

'Improving the PS3's long term performance' when asked by someone about the ps3 lag issue is NOT vague. People like you are just so blinded by cynicism there seems literally nothing they could say which could convince you they are fixing the issue.

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:39 am

The only thing stated was by Pete Hines and all he said was that it would "improve" long term play. Don't twist that into something its not. I truly hope it fixes the problems, but Bethesda has said nothing about it.

The funny thing is, is it seems to be alright to "twist" it into meaning that it's not going to fix it, but as soon as someone says it is going to fix it you get snarky answers like this. What the heck else could be meant by "improves long term play on PS3?" Are they going to add pocket-watches as items for the PS3 so we can track how long our characters have before lag-out?

C'mon guys... have some faith, or at least make sure the patch doesn't fix the lag issues before you start complaining.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:09 pm

Please provide me with that statement (exact wording) and a link. Then I will believe you.

Bethesda aka Peter Hines never said specifically about the lag issue NOTHING. They only said a vague "improves long term performance"...

was it truly about the lag issues?

Was it just to shut everyone up?

"Improves overall performance and stability" is mentioned in every single Bethesda patch. Guess how many patches were needed to fix Fallout New Vegas... now realise that even after all those patches that supposedly improved performance and stability, the problems were never solved...

So excuse me if I am not so optimistic...

It's not about being "not so optimistic" it's about being deliberately ignorant and determined to stay pessimistic. Cup half empty much? When Hines sent that tweet pretty much every gaming site on the planet assumed he meant the lag and ran articles saying just that, and he didn't do anything to stop them.

And since you seem to like tihngs in quotes, his exact phrasing was "On the list for this update is improved performance for long-term play on PS3." I repeat, as stated before, that the ONLY long-term play problem that Skyrim is experiencing is the framerate lag. Hence the perfectly safe assumption that he's referring to the framerate drops with that statement.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:06 pm

He said it in response to someone asking about the PS3 lag issues. And then later someone asked him when the lag issues would be fixed, and he said the patch is still coming next week.

'Improving the PS3's long term performance' when asked by someone about the ps3 lag issue is NOT vague. People like you are just so blinded by cynicism there seems literally nothing they could say which could convince you they are fixing the issue.

If they said "We are fixing the game breaking lagg issue in the next patch" then I would believe them

» Wed May 16, 2012 9:16 am

i hope it fixes all the quest bugs as well as the lag. im unable to start the blood on the ice quest in windhelm. no house or thane title for me

» Wed May 16, 2012 3:12 am

He DID say the patch would fix the lag. People seem to be forgetting that someone else on twitter asked him when the lag would be fixed, and he responded by saying that the patch is coming next week (after his post about the long term play)

HOW MUCH CLEARER DO YOU NEED THIS TO BE?!

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:24 pm

If they said "We are fixing the game breaking lagg issue in the next patch" then I would believe them

But in so many words they have said it. Like Squoosh said, some of you seem to be so blinded by cynicism that you can't see the forest for the trees.

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:10 pm

He DID say the patch would fix the lag. People seem to be forgetting that someone else on twitter asked him when the lag would be fixed, and he responded by saying that the patch is coming next week (after his post about the long term play)

HOW MUCH CLEARER DO YOU NEED THIS TO BE?!

slightly bigger font and maybe a different colour? might just do it

» Wed May 16, 2012 10:11 am

some of you seem to be so blinded by cynicism that you can't see the forest for the trees.

This. Oh so much of this around this week. I get the impression that even if Pete did come out and say, "We have released a patch that will permanently fix every framerate drop 100% forever" many people around here would still insist that Bethesda hadn't been clear about whether they were going to address the problem or not.

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:08 am

He DID say the patch would fix the lag. People seem to be forgetting that someone else on twitter asked him when the lag would be fixed, and he responded by saying that the patch is coming next week (after his post about the long term play)

HOW MUCH CLEARER DO YOU NEED THIS TO BE?!

A start would be getting Bethesda Support to alter their stance on it. At the moment, they're only committing to "A patch will be available in a few days that might help with the problem". Hardly convincing is it?

As for Pete Hines, meh, he's PR, not tech development. His job is to keep people talking about Skyrim/Beth games. He is not worried if website across the world quote his comments (rightly or wrongly) because it's still coverage. Besides, Hines is always sufficiently vague in his responses, he could have just said "The patch next week will cure the PS3 lag". Just be wary, he chose his words very carefully and deliberately.

» Wed May 16, 2012 3:20 am

Right, for once and for all...

Ok. I shall repeat: AS WELL AS saying the patch will improve long term performance, he responded to someone else who said that 75% of PS3 skyrim players had the lag issue that

"the patch is still coming next week"

This is about as clear as anyone can make it. Whether he is telling the truth I cannot say, but he has DEFINITELY said that the patch will address the lag

So stop worrying, sit tight, and wait for the patch- if the patch doesn't fix it, fair enough, then you can complain. But until then, given them the benefit of the doubt and stop letting your childish rage cloud your ability to comprehend simple communication. Bethesda are only humans.

» Wed May 16, 2012 8:27 am

I'm 100% sure they have no idea how to fix this. Look how poor our version of a game is. Blur, shadows
framerate (even without lag). I haven't seen such dramatic comparsion of platforms for a long time.
Engine was rebuild for Xbox and PC with hope that it will work somehow on PS3. It didn't.

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:12 pm

so, they can't officially comment on what's in the patch... but the PR guy on Twitter can...

Which is it? They can or they can't?

Why isn't their a post stickied at the top of this forum, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE ISSUE to just to shut everyone up then? Most of the complaining would be prevented by having a sticky at the top saying, "hey guys, we're aware the game breaks down after long-term play, and we're trying to fix it"

Why can't they clarify right here on the forums, where everyone is complaining? Just as there is stickies about the specific problems with the 360 and texture streaming. or the PC and its' specific issues?

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:33 pm

And if the patch doesn't fix the issues, and they continue to ignore them?

Bethesda are only thieves.

Keep in mind I said if.