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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:14 pm

Changed my mind.

No, no... you were right. If I had called that topic to mind I would have redirected there and answered the question. My apologies.
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Racheal Robertson
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:19 pm

how did the rest of the world view the cold war?
and communism?
and america?

For me, its gone.
Communism, it's a dream that will never work. Been there, done that, it's ugly.
America, well you guys are fine, some are cool, some are horrible, just like everyone in the world. Our media says America is expanding its military interest over Asia, well most of us just say it's none of your business here just get out. Yes America is a bully in the eyes of most Chinese. Gotta be more specific here cause this is just way too general to comment on.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:11 pm

For me, its gone.
Communism, it's a dream that will never work. Been there, done that, it's ugly.
America, well you guys are fine, some are cool, some are horrible, just like everyone in the world. Our media says America is expanding its military interest over Asia, well most of us just say it's none of your business here just get out. Yes America is a bully in the eyes of most Chinese. Gotta be more specific here cause this is just way too general to comment on.
do you live in china?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:22 am

"Location:Hong Kong, China"

You'd assume so.

Nordics of all kinds, what's the deal with the rotten fish?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:48 pm

What is china like? is it really the economic powerhouse ive always heard?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:47 pm

What is china like?

It's small and kind of biscuity.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:35 pm

"Location:Hong Kong, China"

You'd assume so.

Nordics of all kinds, what's the deal with the rotten fish?
Rotten fish is great, and it's a huge tradition in Norway. Many of us feel almost obliged to continue this tradition. I guess it started hundreds of year ago as a way to preserve our fish from getting unedible.

Have you tried rotten fish? :D
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:32 pm

Rotten fish is great, and it's a huge tradition in Norway. Many of us feel almost obliged to continue this tradition. I guess it started hundreds of year ago as a way to preserve our fish from getting unedible.

By making it sort of "pre-inedible"...? Then again a lot of packaged food these days seems to be protected from going stale on the shelves by making it pre-stale in the factory, so I guess it's an old tradition that's still honoured.

I think I'm even more scared of the Icelanders' love of rotted whale-blubber. :yuck:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:51 am

What is china like? is it really the economic powerhouse ive always heard?
I've never been there but of course it's an economic powerhouse, there are like twice as many people in China than in the whole of Europe. They have lots of factories, it seems like everything we buy in France is made in China nowadays, even souvenirs (which is really depressing)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:56 pm

I've never been there but of course it's an economic powerhouse, there are like twice as many people in China than in the whole of Europe. They have lots of factories, it seems like everything we buy in France is made in China nowadays, even souvenirs (which is really depressing)
the american flag i have is made in china :P
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:31 pm

By making it sort of "pre-inedible"...? Then again a lot of packaged food these days seems to be protected from going stale on the shelves by making it pre-stale in the factory, so I guess it's an old tradition that's still honoured.

I think I'm even more scared of the Icelanders' love of rotted whale-blubber. :yuck:
I'm not really sure how it works, but people put (for example the dish Rakfisk) raw fish in a bucket after putting salt and sugar and stuff on it. It then gets stacked with more fish so theres alot of pressure on the fish in the bucket, and they leave that bucket for several months. The idea is that the fish becomes fermented, and there's a lot of enzymes and stuff going on changing the biochemical structure of the fish making it easier to digest and increase it's preservation etc.

That's the basic idea, I'm not much of a maker of rotten fish. :tongue:

Oh and I've seen that Icelandic stuff, very interesting..
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:02 pm

I've never been there but of course it's an economic powerhouse, there are like twice as many people in China than in the whole of Europe. They have lots of factories, it seems like everything we buy in France is made in China nowadays, even souvenirs (which is really depressing)

Hahahahahaha

All your base are belong to us! You have no chance to survive make your time! ha ha ha!

Seriously China is big and it's good at sustaining itself without reliance of others. Problem is, we seem to have over harvested our natural resources just to sell them to other countries. That's why our central government is desperately trying to ban or control the export, but since mainland China legislation is still full of loopholes, people always finds a way to get through. This leads to some quarrels over our treaties with WTO and deficit with USA.

Chinese labor is cheap, even with the rise of RMB a lot mainlanders are not really earning more than $400 USD a month. There are of course a lot of millionaires, but their are a lot more living in poverty. This is what we call Chinese Socialism. Let some get rich first, then spread their wealth over the community. In essense it's capitalism with heavy government intervention.

Like I said before, you can compare some of modernized cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tianjin, Wuhan, Chengdu with any other big cities in the world, but know that 80% of Chinese are still in poverty, earning less than $3/hour. It didn't work out as expected in communism (perhap never expected that way), but at least the economic growth provided enough money to sustain a quite modernized and powerful military force to defend itself.

I think I might enjoy working in mainland cause I don't have to worry about expensive meals in Hong Kong, their corporates often provide free meals to their employees. But again I have to get used to the way that traffic lights are pointless in there. Drivers don't stop at red lights and we don't give a darn on a car moving at our general direction.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:04 pm

Rotten fish is great, and it's a huge tradition in Norway. Many of us feel almost obliged to continue this tradition. I guess it started hundreds of year ago as a way to preserve our fish from getting unedible.

Have you tried rotten fish? :biggrin:

I want to. I take it as a challenge to my manhood to force down rotten shark.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:18 pm

Rotten fish is great, and it's a huge tradition in Norway. Many of us feel almost obliged to continue this tradition. I guess it started hundreds of year ago as a way to preserve our fish from getting unedible.

Have you tried rotten fish? :biggrin:
I'm quite scared of Scandavanian foods. I watched a Norway chef in the TV he only halfly cooked 3 shrimps over heated rocks and salts. But again I don't eat raw food, so I can't stomach a lot of Japanese food either.

We do have some rotten dishes in Asia. Kimshi is sort of rotten, fermented tofu is somewhat rotten, so depends on if it's cooked well or to my taste I could love it.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:07 pm

I want to. I take it as a challenge to my manhood to force down rotten shark.
You should definately try Hákarl. I've heard alot about it, but haven't tried it myself. Would love to do it though if I ever visit Iceland. Supposedly the rotten shark smells heavily of ammonia , and you take shots of akvavit or brennivin while eating it. I've heard that the smell is so strong that you are adviced to pinch your nose.

If you eat it you are a true man, and it IS seen as a test of your manhood.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:35 pm

If you eat it you are a true man, and it IS seen as a test of your manhood.

This is going to be my next personal milestone I plan to reach.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:49 am

how did the rest of the world view the cold war?
and communism?
and america?

Groin area competition.

Pretty good.

Alright, but we'd like you more if you'd stop shouting.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:22 pm

how did the rest of the world view the cold war?
and communism?
and america?

The what?

Fond memories

Stubborn
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:35 am

That seems a bit rough.

Has anyone tried sauerkraut? I'm tempted to try some, being German, but it doesn't look very appetizing to me. In fact, most German- nay- most European food does not look good to me. Except Italian, I LOVE Italian food.
I'm not really sure how it works, but people put (for example the dish Rakfisk) raw fish in a bucket after putting salt and sugar and stuff on it. It then gets stacked with more fish so theres alot of pressure on the fish in the bucket, and they leave that bucket for several months. The idea is that the fish becomes fermented, and there's a lot of enzymes and stuff going on changing the biochemical structure of the fish making it easier to digest and increase it's preservation etc.

That's the basic idea, I'm not much of a maker of rotten fish. :tongue:

Oh and I've seen that Icelandic stuff, very interesting..
I can sauerkraut every summer. We grow huge cabbages here and thus we try to use up all we can of it. I also make a relish of cabbage and green tomatoes to can. Both are delicious. My hubby is German and I use a recipe of his Grandmothers.

I'm not really sure how it works, but people put (for example the dish Rakfisk) raw fish in a bucket after putting salt and sugar and stuff on it. It then gets stacked with more fish so theres alot of pressure on the fish in the bucket, and they leave that bucket for several months. The idea is that the fish becomes fermented, and there's a lot of enzymes and stuff going on changing the biochemical structure of the fish making it easier to digest and increase it's preservation etc.

That's the basic idea, I'm not much of a maker of rotten fish. :tongue:

Oh and I've seen that Icelandic stuff, very interesting..
We pickle raw halibut and salmon using vinegar, salt, sugar, peppercorns, pickling spices and other such stuff. I generally like a bit of onion in it as well. The pickling process "cooks" the fish. We also love fermented fish which we bury. It is called chuqilin and we don't do it much anymore due to the threat of botulism. Usually we smoke and/or dry our salmon and fish by hanging the filets over poles (small trees that we erect) and keeping a nice fire going. I don't go to fish camp anymore so now I just can the smoked fish and if I smoke it myself I do it in my "lil chief". :lol:

We also on occasion make lox which is basically salted salmon. Salt is a great way to preserve meat.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:43 pm

We pickle raw halibut and salmon using vinegar, salt, sugar, peppercorns, pickling spices and other such stuff. I generally like a bit of onion in it as well. The pickling process "cooks" the fish. We also love fermented fish which we bury. It is called chuqilin and we don't do it much anymore due to the threat of botulism. Usually we smoke and/or dry our salmon and fish by hanging the filets over poles (small trees that we erect) and keeping a nice fire going. I don't go to fish camp anymore so now I just can the smoked fish and if I smoke it myself I do it in my "lil chief". :lol:

We also on occasion make lox which is basically salted salmon. Salt is a great way to preserve meat.
Very cool! I eat lots of smoked and buried salmon etc. since it's so common in Norway, sadly I've never done anything like it myself altough I would love too. :smile:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:43 pm

Very cool! I eat lots of smoked and buried salmon etc. since it's so common in Norway, sadly I've never done anything like it myself altough I would love too. :smile:

[censored] I think I'll hate Norway cause I hate salmon :(
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:58 pm

[censored] I think I'll hate Norway cause I hate salmon :(
Nah you won't hate Norway, you'll just starve to death. :D
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:06 pm

That seems a bit rough.

Has anyone tried sauerkraut? I'm tempted to try some, being German, but it doesn't look very appetizing to me. In fact, most German- nay- most European food does not look good to me. Except Italian, I LOVE Italian food.

Sauerkraut is awesome, especially with bits of bacon in it. My family holds a big sauerkraut dinner each year with only sauerkraut, german sausages and lots of beer.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:29 pm

Nah you won't hate Norway, you'll just starve to death. :biggrin:
:lol: Sounds like us. We live on Salmon, moose and caribou.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:16 pm

Nordics of all kinds, what's the deal with the rotten fish?
I'm not nordic, but I did find http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lTTmJ3xqEo explaining it.
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