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Post » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:54 am

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Am I the only one who doesn't feel that bad for Jimmy? I felt bad for how he died, but he brought it on himself. Seriously, there's an army of zombies on the farm, and you're going to drive around with the windows DOWN? That's just tempting fate at that point.
That's silly...

Also I found why T-Dog is call T-Dog, quite simply :P
Theodore Douglas = T-Dog :D
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:32 pm

That's silly...

Also I found why T-Dog is call T-Dog, quite simply :tongue:
Theodore Douglas = T-Dog :biggrin:
I prefer the name 'Token Black Guy of the show' myself. :spotted owl:
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:54 pm

I prefer the name 'Token Black Guy of the show' myself. :spotted owl:
But he has also defied the law of black guys in horror films, so he is more than just that token black guy.

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Will T-dog take over as a Tyree type of character, or will they find another tyrese character?
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:28 pm

But he has also defied the law of black guys in horror films, so he is more than just that token black guy.

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Will T-dog take over as a Tyree type of character, or will they find another tyrese character?
I hope the introduce him soon, otherwise T-Dog will most likely be his counterpart.
Reading and with the intro of [M] I;m hoping for the Govenor still :biggrin:

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With Michonne making her debut, Merle is also returning! (Rumored to be the Govenor counter-part, hopefully not though)

http://screenrant.com/david-morrissey-governor-the-walking-dead-yman-156371/
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Post » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:40 am

I hope the introduce him soon, otherwise T-Dog will most likely be his counterpart.
Reading and with the intro of [M] I;m hoping for the Govenor still :biggrin:

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With Michonne making her debut, Merle is also returning! (Rumored to be the Govenor counter-part, hopefully not though)

http://screenrant.com/david-morrissey-governor-the-walking-dead-yman-156371/
JIZZZZ

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I'd bet money on Merle turning up as The Governor's right hand man - he definitely seems the type that would rise up the ranks in that gang. I was surprised at the casting of the Governor tbh - I thought they'd land Danny Trejo for the part.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:42 am

I liked every part of the finale besides
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Lori being a ignorant [censored] towards Rick. Yes by all means lets get angry at Rick for killing the man who attempted to [censored] you, murder your husband, suspected of killing Otis and constantly went against the group. Also why was anyone upset about Rick keeping that secret, in the end it makes no difference.You die you become a zombie end of story. He wasn't even sure it was true until Shane died.

Other than that it was a good episode. Killed off some unnecessary characters and the show seems to be going in a less stagnant direction.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:01 pm

I liked every part of the finale besides
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Lori being a ignorant [censored] towards Rick. Yes by all means lets get angry at Rick for killing the man who attempted to [censored] you, murder your husband, suspected of killing Otis and constantly went against the group. Also why was anyone upset about Rick keeping that secret, in the end it makes no difference.You die you become a zombie end of story. He wasn't even sure it was true until Shane died.

Other than that it was a good episode. Killed off some unnecessary characters and the show seems to be going in a less stagnant direction.

The only reason I can think of it being foolish that Rick didn't tell them was because it could have put them in danger. Like if that girl had managed to off herself in the farmhouse - they would have had a walker in the house and no one would be anticipating it. But even then, that seemed a big overreaction to me. It would have made more sense if they decided as a group to be more honest and upfront in the interests of clarity and safety - it's not like he kept it from them out of malice after all.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:44 pm

I'm on a slow, old, cranky laptop so foregoing quotes etc...but in response to some of above posts:

---the camper/Jimmy thing definitely was stupid and I made comment of it to my spouse while we were watching. ;)
---agree about the helicopter. Think it was neat how they tied that together, too.
---I think Carol has a crush on Daryl, plus you have to remember she had an abusive husband. So her reactions may have something to do with those things, along with just plain fear of course.
---Lori just needs to die. She's inconsistent in her positions. I feel like she's with RIck out of guilt more than anything else. Remember in the 1st episode they made it out like Rick and Lori's relationship was in trouble (she was unhappy). Guilt can do weird things to people...but that's why I think she's inconsistent.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:23 pm

I'm on a slow, old, cranky laptop so foregoing quotes etc...but in response to some of above posts:

---the camper/Jimmy thing definitely was stupid and I made comment of it to my spouse while we were watching. :wink:
Hah, I said the same thing with my family.

---Lori just needs to die. She's inconsistent in her positions. I feel like she's with RIck out of guilt more than anything else. Remember in the 1st episode they made it out like Rick and Lori's relationship was in trouble (she was unhappy). Guilt can do weird things to people...but that's why I think she's inconsistent.
She grates me because she's even further on the Pre-Chaos field than Dale was. At least Dale could take a moment and try to assess what's right. What Rick did was right, was it brutal? But Shane was brutal. He was ruthless, vindictive, and uncontrolled. Hell, he even freed that guy just to snap his neck, and he was planning it all just to kill Rick, come back the hero after 'killing the bad guy who escaped' and take over as leader, and he'd be a poor leader at that. At this point I'd say Shane's death was karmic retribution.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:57 pm

This may or may not be considered a spoiler branch so I'll tag it just in case:

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The script I read made it sound like what Lori was actually reacting the most to in the ep. las night was hearing that Carl had shot Shane...eg, the protective, 'he's too young for that/how could you let him do that' reaction. Which does seem somewhat consistent in that she's protested about Carl having a gun/learning to shoot and stuff, IIRC. I don't think she's on the same page as Rick that Carl has to grow up/won't have a childhood.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:47 am

This may or may not be considered a spoiler branch so I'll tag it just in case:

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The script I read made it sound like what Lori was actually reacting the most to in the ep. las night was hearing that Carl had shot Shane...eg, the protective, 'he's too young for that/how could you let him do that' reaction. Which does seem somewhat consistent in that she's protested about Carl having a gun/learning to shoot and stuff, IIRC. I don't think she's on the same page as Rick that Carl has to grow up/won't have a childhood.
You're exactly right. Carl's childhood isn't sitting around the house watching Saturday Cartoons, going to the park to play with his pals from school, or going to the school dance. His childhood is 'learn to survive', his gun is his 'education' in this post-chaos world. Between raiders, bandits, and zombies, along with a myriad of other dangers, his survival is dependant on his ability to survive, not being coddled on mum's nipble until she deems him old enough.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:40 pm

Per the secret: it's a question of trust, if he is keeping secrets "for the good of the group" you can no longer trust him. Glenn had it right.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:58 pm

I don't think Rick kept a secret for the good of the group, despite what he says. I think it's more that he was just unsure if it was truth, and there was no way to test it without killing somebody before they were sick/bitten And if it turned out he was wrong, the group would turn on him for scaring them and being wrong. Humans are reactive idiots, after all. ;)

Rick strikes me as the type of character who generally wants proof or at least more information to work with, before jumping to a conclusion or sharing information, which is why he's had such trouble making decisions here and there. I don't think that makes someone untrustworthy per se. I know lots of ppl like that. If you share info too early sometimes it does create more issues or more danger (at least initially) than it solves. It's a common dilemma and has no black and white answer.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:22 pm

I don't think Rick kept a secret for the good of the group, despite what he says. I think it's more that he was just unsure if it was truth, and there was no way to test it without killing somebody before they were sick/bitten And if it turned out he was wrong, the group would turn on him for scaring them and being wrong. Humans are reactive idiots, after all. :wink:

Rick strikes me as the type of character who generally wants proof or at least more information to work with, before jumping to a conclusion or sharing information, which is why he's had such trouble making decisions here and there. I don't think that makes someone untrustworthy per se. I know lots of ppl like that. If you share info too early sometimes it does create more issues or more danger (at least initially) than it solves. It's a common dilemma and has no black and white answer.
Right, plus, that Doctor, forget his name, er, Jennings or something? Didn't seem all that there anymore. Rick was right to approach the thought with wanting proof. If he'd told everyone outright, then it turned out to be false, it would discredit Rick. The way I see it, he made the more pragmatic choice as opposed to going off the bat to say, 'Uh, so yeah, some guy, like, told me if we just fall over and die, we, like, come back as zombies bro', that was better he tried to have confirmation before he told them.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:17 am

Awesome finale !
Definitely agree that Ricks doing the right thing taking control more,Loved the Democracy line :).
I also partly think he should of told the group,but i can understand he would want proof it is true before telling them, so as not to panic them all. But then if Carl,Suicide girl (Beth?), or others had died, not telling them did potentially put them all in a risky situation. :shrug:

Only thing that ruined the finale for me was the new characther...
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Michonne. Honestly.....she turns up, hacks a head off while having 2 pet zombies on chains behind her. Shes chopped the arms off them,that doesnt really make them safe, its the bloody MOUTH thats the problem !! :swear: Yet they show no attempts of struggling or even trying to bite her when they could quite easily.

This fits in a comic setting maybe, but tbh it sorta ruined it slighty for me.
I havent read the comics, so i dont know how big a role she plays, but i Hope they at least lose the zombie pets next season and dont let this get stupid..

Any mention of possible start date for season 3? or is it even being filmed yet
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Post » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:00 am

Perhaps sedatives still works on zombie brains. :rofl:

I'm still curious why a zombie bite would cause a special fever that seems guaranteed to kill you, if you already have the virus or whatever in your system. That doesn't make sense in a viral way, unless the saliva glands have something extra in them, akin to venom say.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:08 pm

Only thing that ruined the finale for me was the new characther...
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Michonne. Honestly.....she turns up, hacks a head off while having 2 pet zombies on chains behind her. Shes chopped the arms off them,that doesnt really make them safe, its the bloody MOUTH thats the problem !! :swear: Yet they show no attempts of struggling or even trying to bite her when they could quite easily.

This fits in a comic setting maybe, but tbh it sorta ruined it slighty for me.
I havent read the comics, so i dont know how big a role she plays, but i Hope they at least lose the zombie pets next season and dont let this get stupid..

My screen was too dark to tell but in the comics
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she removes the jaw too

Perhaps sedatives still works on zombie brains. :rofl:

I'm still curious why a zombie bite would cause a special fever that seems guaranteed to kill you, if you already have the virus or whatever in your system. That doesn't make sense in a viral way, unless the saliva glands have something extra in them, akin to venom say.
I would think there would be a host of nasty bacteria, they are rotten corpses' and they do feast on pretty much anything thats living and some things that aren't
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:40 pm

Bacteria from rotting flesh and other things...good answer. Makes sense.

Also, I believe Season 3 is planned for sometime in October. Other than that, I don't know much beyond the usual oblique producer answers to fan questions, and actor casting.

Edit: supposedly the first half of the season's scripts are already written and filming begins in May.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:22 pm

Awesome finale !
Definitely agree that Ricks doing the right thing taking control more,Loved the Democracy line :smile:.
I also partly think he should of told the group,but i can understand he would want proof it is true before telling them, so as not to panic them all. But then if Carl,Suicide girl (Beth?), or others had died, not telling them did potentially put them all in a risky situation. :shrug:

Only thing that ruined the finale for me was the new characther...
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Michonne. Honestly.....she turns up, hacks a head off while having 2 pet zombies on chains behind her. Shes chopped the arms off them,that doesnt really make them safe, its the bloody MOUTH thats the problem !! :swear: Yet they show no attempts of struggling or even trying to bite her when they could quite easily.

This fits in a comic setting maybe, but tbh it sorta ruined it slighty for me.
I havent read the comics, so i dont know how big a role she plays, but i Hope they at least lose the zombie pets next season and dont let this get stupid..

Any mention of possible start date for season 3? or is it even being filmed yet
A. The zombies have no jaws either, and there's a reason she has those zombies, click the link I posted if you care to learn. And according to a friend of mine, it's supposed to start again this October.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:46 am

A. The zombies have no jaws either, and there's a reason she has those zombies, click the link I posted if you care to learn. And according to a friend of mine, it's supposed to start again this October.

Never noticed the jaws.
Read the wiki page, Does seem a bit more "sensible" when you find out who the zombies are and why. Just seemed it had all gotten a bit stupid when that scene comes on, but thats me content again :)
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:07 pm

Never noticed the jaws.
Read the wiki page, Does seem a bit more "sensible" when you find out who the zombies are and why. Just seemed it had all gotten a bit stupid when that scene comes on, but thats me content again :smile:
Ha. I don't follow the comics either, so I said the same 'huh?' before I did a little google-fu. :laugh:
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:34 am

Only thing that ruined the finale for me was the new characther...
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Michonne. Honestly.....she turns up, hacks a head off while having 2 pet zombies on chains behind her. Shes chopped the arms off them,that doesnt really make them safe, its the bloody MOUTH thats the problem !! :swear: Yet they show no attempts of struggling or even trying to bite her when they could quite easily.

This fits in a comic setting maybe, but tbh it sorta ruined it slighty for me.
I havent read the comics, so i dont know how big a role she plays, but i Hope they at least lose the zombie pets next season and dont let this get stupid..
She removes the jaws in the comic - See the cover of Issue 19s cover art. No arms no jaw.

Perhaps sedatives still works on zombie brains. :rofl:

I'm still curious why a zombie bite would cause a special fever that seems guaranteed to kill you, if you already have the virus or whatever in your system. That doesn't make sense in a viral way, unless the saliva glands have something extra in them, akin to venom say.
Well if you are infected, your body is able to control the current level of [infection] thats in your system. But someone who has been overcome by the [infection] will have increased levels of it as their body can't contain it, so it ends up flowing through them like blood and water does in their system, and when they bite someone they introduce more of the [infection] into that persons blood stream. This added [infection] is enough to overcome the living persons natural defences and in time it kills them and reanimates them as zombies...
Make any sense?
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:23 pm

I've never read the comic so can anyone here tell me why she has these two guys as pets? I just hope that show doesnt start getting silly. I mean I read some where that she know's these two on a personal level but how in the world can someone move quickly/swiftly anywhere with those dudes dragging behind? ....makes no sense to me.
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Post » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:03 pm

I've never read the comic so can anyone here tell me why she has these two guys as pets? I just hope that show doesnt start getting silly. I mean I read some where that she know's these two on a personal level but how in the world can someone move quickly/swiftly anywhere with those dudes dragging behind? ....makes no sense to me.
maybe they serve as a distraction to other zombies?
Like how in some episodes Rick etc have covered themselves in zombie cuts to mask their scent and hid under them aswell, maybe she has those to as a memory but they also block her natural smell from the zombies so they don't think twice and she can go anywhere
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Post » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:19 am

She removes the jaws in the comic - See the cover of Issue 19s cover art. No arms no jaw.


Well if you are infected, your body is able to control the current level of [infection] thats in your system. But someone who has been overcome by the [infection] will have increased levels of it as their body can't contain it, so it ends up flowing through them like blood and water does in their system, and when they bite someone they introduce more of the [infection] into that persons blood stream. This added [infection] is enough to overcome the living persons natural defences and in time it kills them and reanimates them as zombies...
Make any sense?
Not really. If it were rabies or something, maybe, but it doesn't really make sense. If the bite was a fatal neck/artery wound, maybe due to the vital point bitten and thus bleeding out. But look at someone with HIV/Aids, they don't suddenly 'get more Aids' when bitten by someone else who has it. Same thing would apply here. Whatever's in the survivor's blood, assuming the virus' initial exposure killed on contact, makes the virus seem to be recessive until death. It wouldn't make sense that a simple light scratch on the arm or what have you should suddenly turn into a zombie. Honestly, I just chalk the whole confusion up to being a plothole.

Also, at your latest post, the zombies are more a distraction for herself, they're apparently her coping mechanism for the post-apocalyptic world. IIRC it's said ones her boyfriend, and the other her ex-husband.
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