Lets be real, the biggest competition for TESSkyrim is TW2 this year, even Skyrim is still coming out, we can predict outcome for both games, and please don't get offended about this poll like children, lets be logistic ho can be ultimate RPG game of 2011 in different elements... :yes:

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skyrim allows so much more freedom.
much greater character customisation.
i like the first witcher, so long since i played it, i can't remember it... but i've always found elder scrolls much less constricting.

I plan on getting the Witcher 2 when it comes on 360 so I haven't played either yet.I'll take a wild guess that i will love both but prefer Skyrim.

My vote gos for TW2 and TESSkyrim because, in overall if we look at TW2 combat system it is more hard core and deeper that TESSkyrim, as well as scenario cinematic way how they present whole campaign, it just pull you inside story, bt for TESSkyrim is different story more like exploration type so for me they both are equally.

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The Witcher is a decent game but nothing more than that. There's so many downsides to that game I don't even want to start listing them.

All in all I'm pretty sure Skyrim will be RPG of the year.

You are so certain, even if TESSkyrim will beat TW2 which i strongly doubt, it will be with several votes...

Well first of all, on a Skyrim forum Skyrim will get most votes anyway so this poll isn't really going to prove anything.

But overall I can't really see any point where TW2 would win instead of Skyrim. It's way more limited, smaller and the combat wasn't all that. On top of that a lot of quests and bossfights were not hard but just suffered from poor design which required a lot of trial and error because it was unclear what you had to do to finish them. You can call that 'hardcoe' but it's actually just poor design.

As I said, TW2 was enjoyable and decent but can't stand up to Skyrim. I'd say in a fair 1 on 1 vote it'll lose about 30 to 70 percent. But we'll have to wait and see, Skyrim could still be a disappointment while TW2 is already out so it's purely a guess right now.

A bit hard to say, since Skyrim isn't even out yet.

The Witcher 2 is in my opinion easily one of the best games of the year so far. Apart from the inventory system, a few misplaced QTEs and it could have been longer, I have little to remark about it.

Your poll is a bit broken since we can vote for both, unless you did that on purpose.

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For me, no contest. The Witcher 2.
reason: Skyrim carries an online DRM infection, something that The Witcher 2 is free from.

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From what I know about Skyrim (and from what can be predicted from Bethesdas trackrecord), The Witcher 2 will be better overall. Though it does not have the random exploration aspect (which I'm very fine without), it already feels much more focused and involving experience as a whole (as in, what I do, has a point to it).

You're asking this on a forum devoted to TES games... what do you expect?

And you get free dlc on top of that. And the collector's edition had everything but a kitchen sink in it, still it was like 2/3 or in some places half as cheap as Skyrim's CE. These fellows of CD Project are so nice they don't need draconic DRM. Anyone even considering doing something illegal would die of remorse. Or they should anyway. :stare:

Just to be honest opinions...

I think the combat in TW2 was awkward and not very satisfying, I predict giving that edge to Skyrim since TES has always(at least since morrowind) had a really fun magic system. Also you have the new perks now which give warriors more diversity than before and while the close combat on it's own isn't anything special it' not something that looks wrong at least, especially now I would persume since they have removed backpedaling for example.

As for story, I would so far give the edge to Witcher 2, this isn't bethesdas strong side which is a shame because I think that the lore and world of TES makes witcher look pretty generic. Though something that bugged me with TW2 and made it more difficult for me to immerse myself in conversations and cinematics was the stiff, expressionless faces.

A lot of people tried to hype me about TW2 and while I wasn't that much of a TW1 fan I still gave it a chance since it got praised over and over again. But I can't honestly see what the hype was about. It's not a bad game, it has nice looking enviornments, an okay story, some cool side quests and actually proves a challenge at times as opposed to Oblivion for example... But that aside it's not (from my point of view) that special. But then again I expected it to be an RPG and judged it thereafter, I think if you're not into role playing or expect an action adventure it becomes much more enjoyable.

As for which game is better, it's pretty hard to tell since Skyrim hasn't been released, I will probably like Skyrim a lot more since it's more my type of game, it seems more promising also. But at the end of the day they're very different games, I think it comes down to what you prefer. It's almost like comparing Diablo with League of Legends or something, the similarities are pretty much that you level up and buy/find items.

I think it 's fair to say that Skyrim will be more successful than The Withcer 2. Bethesda is a well known company while CD Projekt RS is a smaller developer from Poland that is not as well known yet.Sure if they keep making games on par with Withcer sereis they could easily rival any RPG developer.

So after all that it comes down to what your personal opinion is and which style of RPG you prefer.

I feel much the same... even though I have serious peeves with TW2 and can think of aspects that Skyrim will likely manage to implement better.
~Still The Witcher series is more my kind of RPG.

Bit unfair to ask at this stage due to one of the options not having been released yet but after playing it and looking at the information that was released leading up to it being available to play I'd go for The Witcher 2.

Maybe I'm sick of the mentality of "Be the big hero and go after dragguunnnzzzz" Geralt was an enhanced guy, a witcher in a shades of grey world that just felt real. The writing and story as well... fantastic.

Given the directions that Skyrim seems to be going in it comes across more as a hack and slash with some rpg elements tacked on while trading on the legacy of previous titles in the series.

Now The Witcher 2 compared to Daggerfall or Morrowind (modded)... that's a toughy.

In my mind, this is like comparing Silent Hill and Tomb Raider right now. Those are very different games on various scales.

I'm not sure. The Elder Scrolls formula makes for such fantastic games. I know of no other games where you can play for over 100 hours and still have a ton of stuff to do. The Witcher's modding community isn't as good as that of TES, and from what I've seen all the Witcher 2 mods involve naked people wheareas for TES games only half the mods involve nvde people.

I haven't tried any of the Witcher games, but they look great.
In my opinion Skyrim will be the ultimate RPG as it has so many more options.
But the games seem so different that it's hard do say which game is the best.

The Witcher 2 is Skyrim's biggest competition, has anybody forgetten about Kingdoms Of Amalur Reckoning. That game is easily better then The Witcher 2, is an open world RPG, and probably will have a much higher replay value rate unlike TW2. Now I can't wait for TW2 to come out on the 360 to see what the buzz is all about but there's no way it's going to be better then Reckoning and it certainly won't beat Skyrim. The only thing that TW2 has going for it is Graphics but that's it, the game is basically another predetermined hero fest that you can't customize the main character at all.

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So what determines whether a game is good or not... is whether you can make your own character?

Really? You haven't played it yet you're so sure of its inferiority to two games that haven't been released? Seems kinda silly.


I see folks talk about how long one can play TES games, but from my time with Oblivion (main quest, every major sidequest/guild, dungeon crawling, etc.) I don't think I was even close to 60 hours. Are we talking multiple characters, maxing stats/levels, exploring every inch of the map and so on or am I just missing something?

The Witcher 2 is mainly an RPG, and Skyrim is shaping up to be mainly an adventure game. Being an adventure game isn't a bad thing, in spite of what you'll hear in the complaints of people who still pay attention to Bethesda hoping for a game that's a deep RPG instead of what they clearly prefer to make instead. If you want exploration, Skyrim is the "better" game, if you want an RPG, the Witcher 2 will likely be the "better" game. If someone buys Skyrim thinking it's going to be some revolutionary RPG then they weren't paying attention, to the pre-release info or Bethesda's history.

Yeah man. Planescape Torment had awesome hand drawn terrain but you can only play as The Nameless One, with a fixed history and looks. What a horrible RPG!