The word "OPINION" is ruining all forms of discussio : Othor Games

» Tue May 15, 2012 9:29 pm

HOW DARE YOU! I demand satisfaction! Pistols at dawn, my lady!

And you'll each shoot in turns.

» Wed May 16, 2012 4:32 am

i see no problem with a response of "thats just your opinion"

if it was your opinion then no amount of reasons behind it makes it important to anyone else, for example

"It is my opinion that liver tastes like crap. "

It tastes like blood, and I loathe the taste of blood. Yuck.

regardless of the reasoning behind Subtonic's reason for hating liver, it is a personal opinion which others may not share as some people might enjoy the taste of blood, so it in no way gives anyone a place to argue because no one has any right to declare another person's opinion as wrong.

» Wed May 16, 2012 8:16 am

And you'll each shoot in turns. :tongue:

Crap! I rolled a 1 for initiative!

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:57 am

regardless of the reasoning behind Subtonic's reason for hating liver, it is a personal opinion which others may not share as some people might enjoy the taste of blood, so it in no way gives anyone a place to argue because no one has any right to declare another person's opinion as wrong.

True, whereas if I said, "Anybody who eats liver is a weirdo with poor taste," there'd be a good reason to call me out.

» Wed May 16, 2012 6:38 am

I love liver (and tons of onions), but I can't form that statement into an opinion. It is simply a fact.

I love liver- a personal fact
Liver is great- an opinion not held by previous posters (poor misguided fools)

» Wed May 16, 2012 4:28 am

regardless of the reasoning behind Subtonic's reason for hating liver, it is a personal opinion which others may not share as some people might enjoy the taste of blood, so it in no way gives anyone a place to argue because no one has any right to declare another person's opinion as wrong.

Doesn't that imply that anyone who doesn't share your opinion on the right to declare another person's opinion as wrong is wrong?

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:36 pm

Whilst my opinion in this matter is of somewhat lesser significance because I have, to my knowledge, never eaten liver before, I do somewhat like the taste of blood and can therefore surmise that I might like the taste of liver as well.

And I do enjoy turn based game play.

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:31 pm

If someone says "Well that's just your opinion" I think "Yes, having just written it myself I am fully aware that it is in fact my opinion. Thank you for your input" :mellow:

» Tue May 15, 2012 10:05 pm

Some things like how awesome cake are is subjective. I [censored] love cake, but it won't stop me from needing to take 3 days off for eating it because of my medical condition. No matter how much I or anyone else disagrees with that cake. It clearly doesn't like you people and your opinions, so you should really be quite mad at it.

» Wed May 16, 2012 11:46 am

"In my opinion Skyrim seemed a tad rushed and underwhelming" - vs - "Skyrim was really rushed and underwhelming."

One statement encourages friendly debate. One statement stakes out an absolute position on the issue and by inferences antagonizes any other POV.

Good example for me. I do feel that way about Skyrim, but plenty of people don't and ultimately it comes down to my personal preference, at least in most respects. Trying to state it as some sort of absolute truth is just annoying; I think the infamous Oblivion bashing proved that pretty well, where "I don't care for Oblivion" was usually expressed along the lines of "Oblivion is crap."

» Wed May 16, 2012 8:03 am

Those 2 statements are just as bad as each other.

It's when people do not seem to make any effort to qualify their statements that it becomes harder to accept them at face value.

One is couched as an opinion. One is couched as an objective fact.

Neither offers support for their conclusion, but it's better to concede that you're expressing your opinion from the outset then proclaim that you know better than anyone who thinks otherwise.

Side note: Liver = awesome.

» Wed May 16, 2012 8:57 am

Side note: Liver = awesome.

(edit- just sharing that opinion)

» Wed May 16, 2012 7:31 am

I think that may be wishful reading. Let's hope that's what he meant.

I always felt that some people here post taboo topics just to start arguments and cause a rift in the community. So such escape mechanisms are probably good to have here.

» Wed May 16, 2012 6:10 am

Side note: Liver = awesome.

I love the taste of liver, but I'm not so fond of all those tubes. It's also tricky to cook well, just a moment's inattention can leave it like leather, although I suppose casseroling rather than grilling it gives a bit more leeway.

» Wed May 16, 2012 7:11 am

I love the taste of liver, but I'm not so fond of all those tubes. It's also tricky to cook well, just a moment's inattention can leave it like leather, although I suppose casseroling rather than grilling it gives a bit more leeway.

Ah, I've almost always had it chopped. Never tried to grill it myself. If I did, I doubt it would come out well. :sick:

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:42 pm

Side note: Liver = awesome.

Indeed. My favourite part of a rabbit.

» Wed May 16, 2012 6:41 am

I love the taste of liver, but I'm not so fond of all those tubes. It's also tricky to cook well, just a moment's inattention can leave it like leather, although I suppose casseroling rather than grilling it gives a bit more leeway.

At my house we typically wrap them in aluminum foil and 'grill' them on the stove for a few minutes, then make chopped liver out of them. You do have to be careful while cooking them, though, as it's really easy to burn them if you let it go too long.

One is couched as an opinion. One is couched as an objective fact.

Neither offers support for their conclusion, but it's better to concede that you're expressing your opinion from the outset then proclaim that you know better than anyone who thinks otherwise.

He does have a point, though, as neither one really provides anything to discuss. That said, I'd still consider the one that comes across as an opinion to be acceptable since it at least signifies a willingness to have a discussion in the first place.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:38 pm

...Because some people can't recognize the fact that there are such things as opinions, and think that if something is being argued, one person has to be right and the other has to be wrong.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:50 pm

I try to remember a few rules when it comes to posting:
1. Opinions are like [censored]s. Everyone has one, and everyone but yours stinks.
2. If an opinion differs from mine, I will ask questions about why they formulated the opinion. If they have any of their facts wrong, I will correct them.
(usually does not end well)
3. Some people just can't accept the truth. It's their problem, and my job to simply let them be.

But I am, of course, human.

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:36 pm

Side note: Liver = awesome.

(edit- just sharing that opinion)

I love the taste of liver, but I'm not so fond of all those tubes. It's also tricky to cook well, just a moment's inattention can leave it like leather, although I suppose casseroling rather than grilling it gives a bit more leeway.

Ah, I've almost always had it chopped. Never tried to grill it myself. If I did, I doubt it would come out well. :sick:

Indeed. My favourite part of a rabbit.

At my house we typically wrap them in aluminum foil and 'grill' them on the stove for a few minutes, then make chopped liver out of them. You do have to be careful while cooking them, though, as it's really easy to burn them if you let it go too long.

In my opinion, the best way to prepare liver is to start with a cast iron fry pan, half a stick of butter, and a large onion, sliced. Cook the onion in the butter over medium heat until soft and golden. Lightly dredge the liver in seasoned flour and add to the pan. Cook on both sides until nicely browned and just a couple minutes past the point where the blood stops bubbling out the top side.

Of course, this is just my opinion and others may disagree.

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:58 am

opinion: my chili should be classified as an explosive material.. :pinch:

fact: this has been said on more than one occasion :celebration:

» Wed May 16, 2012 3:09 am

It is my opinion that I am. Though I may not usually participate in discussions about truths and real issues, I still have opinions of them. These opinions are mine and mine alone, and I choose to believe or not believe whatever I want. My mind does not belong to science or religion or any group of people; it belongs to me, and whatever opinions I have in this short life of mine will remain as such.

A Boeing 747 is losing compression in all cylinders. There are two pilots and 200 passengers. I think 200 people are not entitled to an opinion concerning how to properly land the plane.

» Wed May 16, 2012 1:42 am

A Boeing 747 is losing compression in all cylinders. There are two pilots and 200 passengers. I think 200 people are not entitled to an opinion concerning how to properly land the plane.

There may be a retired pilot with tonnes of experience and the pilot and co-pilot might be inexperienced. It's all situational and far too context dependant to generalise.

» Wed May 16, 2012 8:28 am

I'd say they're all still entitled to an opinion, they just can't have any say in flying the plane.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:20 pm

This thread reminds me of a quote from a Discworld book:

"Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions."

The word &#34;OPINION&#34; is ruining all forms of discussio

The word "OPINION" is ruining all forms of discussio