ive seen alot of people talking about how skyrim broke there ps3 or corrupted there save file but im wondering if skyrim is really the cause or if its just speculation, im not sayin i dont believe people but if it true i definiltly dont wanna play skyrim, the only problem ive had with skyrim so far is the lag on my old save file befor patch 1.2, no problems after the patch, ( save file is still small). game havsent forze or crashed yet witch i heard alot of people saying happened befor there system crapped out, but still worryed, also if your ps3 has messed up please post how old it is and what one it is (slim or older ver).

I'm not even going to take the chance. I won't play again until the game is working properly.

It did not break my ps3 but i have been a cpu user for long enough to know that the amount of stress it is putting the ps3 system under can easily wreak havok , anything from burning out your power supply to frying your hard drive is totally plausable under these conditions being caused.

Not to mention if your game freezes on you a lot all that turning your system off and on can't be good either.

No definitely not, and i would advise anyone suffering from major lag 5fps or less and freezing more than once every hour to consider not playing the game until the issue is resolved...... while some may get away with playing under these conditions.... your definitely flirting with disaster.

It hard freezes all the time and turning the ps3 off without the proper shutdown damages it's systems after a while.

No but after the fourth time having to turn it off after the game froze im going to stop playing skyrim for awhile just so my ps3 doesn't break

I know I'm going to get flamed for this but the problem is, at best, only half Skyrim's fault. There IS evidence that Skyrim is causing PS3's to crash and/or hard lock. Too much of having to force restart a console is not good for the hardware and will most likely lead to corrupt data on the HDD. Corrupt data can cause problems for a HDD and even led to failure. That aside, since it's nearly impossible to view these forums and not see the warnings left by other users stating the very thing I've just said, the other half is the users fault. Anyone experiencing a ton of hard locks or crashing should simply put the game down and hope you can pick it up in the future. If you don't you're partially to blame for whatever corruption happens to your HDD because you were warned.

As for any YLOD'd. I'm hard pressed to say any of that is Skyrim's fault. It's more likely that the consoles were on their last leg in the first place and Skyrim just gave it a nudge. It didn't have to be Skyrim mind you, it could have been any game or movie.

is there any way to shut it down properly if it frezzes?

Nope. If it's a complete freeze the user loses all control of the system. PS button won't even work.

ya i had a friend who's older ps3(first fat ver) harddive fryed while playing nhl 11 so not alwys the games fault.

You shouldn't get flamed because your right lol.

i had 4 times freezing my ps3. it wasnt possible to shut it down properly. i stopped playing skyrim 2 days ago. at the end i was able to play it for 15 minutes before the lags increased so it was unplayable. my ps3 is 2 years old. i had ~100gb free hdd before starting skyrim. no movies and so on it, only games i bought.

Most gamers (especially console) don't even read the forums for the games they play.

That's true. I'm one of them. This is the first time I've ever paid much attention to a game forum at all, let along registered.

Well, I can only speak for myself. The only game that has caused a hard freeze resulting in a message telling me the HDD might be corrupted is - Skyrim. At first, I thought this was something new for Firmware 4.0 for the PS3, but then I've seen people report this happening even before they updated their firmware, so now I'm not so sure, and I'm not taking any chances.

A lot of freezing + one HDD corruption message (post Patch 1.2) combined with being quest locked has made me stop playing the game. I don't think I will play it until it's been confirmed most things (including quests) are functional. And by confirmed, I don't mean "mentioned in patch notes that simply aren't factual", like the notes for 1.2

The first total system crash while playing Skyrim led to my YLOD the next night, but I don't blame the game in the slightest. (This just happened, btw). It was a four-and-a-half year-old launch system.

ok what does this collecting data thing mean, so if i dont send them my save(wich i deleted) my problems wont get fixed or there anolyzing data looking for flaws bethesda should have been more clear but i'll take some unofficial opinions anyone

This is usually true, not many people use forums, but when you can type in "Lag problems in a PS3 game" into google and skyrim pops up at the top of the list....word gets around, and has. I found the forums, searching for a way I could help the issue at home.

As for the other comments regarding the older systems might be partly to blame. This is completely out of context... if you can play any other games on your system and not have these hard freezes like skyrim offers, then the problem is not your console. The problem is infact Skyrim, or rather Bethesda. The only people that have not experienced the severity of these drops in frame rate are only those gamers that have not acquired that large of a save file. You will NEVER see anyone say they have a 16MB save file and have no problems...that would be a blatant lie.

IGN, TGDAILY, TIM CLARK, DIGITAL FOUNDRY.... all these game review companies are extremely disappointed in Bethesda, and you as consumers, should be also. Do not let Bethesda fool you into thinking "it's not that bad" or "not all users", that is downplaying the severity of the issue. I can assure you that if this was not a HUGE deal, that you would not see IGN making Comments with a heading like "WTH IS GOING ON BETHESDA?!"

GOTY (Game Of The Year) is on the line for Bethesda now, and IGN and Tim Clark have stated that if this is not SWIFTLY addressed they will not get it. If Bethesda does not get GOTY for Skyrim, it will not only make all the new staff that worked on Skyrim look at fault, but will put a blemish on the veterans, the Game Engine, and Bethesda's name itself.

Brand Loyalty is a major selling point for Sagas like Elder Scrolls, all you need to do is keep complaining.....and do ALOT of it. The more everyone does, the faster you can see them addressing the actual problem, and not putting it on their "to do list" as they release general post-release patches.

It would not be unreasonable to assume that Skyrim could harm your PS3... Once all the system RAM is used up the HDD starts getting thrashed.

I only had the game hard freeze on me twice but it was once on two different characters and hasnt done that since. Funny thing the power went out the other day and when i turn my ps3 back on it did that corrupt thing, I was playing MW3 at the time too with some friends. But if you have to keep turning it on and off to play Skyrim than your asking for your console to break and it no longer is Skyrims fault. If it hard freezes on you too many times than do the smart thing and put it down like others have said, otherwise continue to play at your own risk and dont blame Skyrim when trying to reboot it back up makes you realize your console is broken. I dont think its Skyrims fault when the console breaks on them with it in there, especially when said person keeps rebooting his/her system to get their fix of Skyrim. Basically if you cant use common sense than its not the games fault.

LOL i like how you keep trying to say it isn't skyrims fault, well if skyrim was known to have a massive memory leak which caused so much stress on your system that it broke it..... whose fault is it lol?

Not sure but i'm fairly certain this game did not come with a "Use at your own risk.... may blow up your console" warning.....

Seriously not trying to be rude.... but a little common sense please..... your basically stating that your average console user should have massive amounts of computing, and electrical knowledge or shouldn't be able to purchase a console..... not sure if your aware of this but consumers have rights too.

I have hard crashed 3 times, even tried taking out the disk, to no avail. I had a few smaller issues but I have only saw lag once. My save is just over 7mb, but I am not overly far in the game. Lucky for me I was just renting it to play it. I hate this cause I have been dealing with Bioware for over a month now, they have yet to fix Dragon Age 2. So I do hope complaining works cause I am gonna keep doing it till I get 1. My money back, or 2: a patched game I can actually save in. Newbie question: What is YLOD?

yellow light of death, when yer ps3 dies

This scares the [censored] out of me, after 110 hours my game just hit 12mb and is starting to lag within the first hour of gameplay. So I need to back-up my ps3 hdd because Skyrim could blow up my console? Thanks [censored] programmers

I shouldn't publicly complain as Bethesda has warned "snitches get glitches" via that 1.2 patch