Um... I think you forgot the Daedra. : V

» Wed May 09, 2012 7:49 am

So I've been going through the game files, and I noticed that Bethesda seems to have forgotten to include the files for most of the Daedra. (And it looks like they were gonna include Centaurs at one point- their skeleton file is still there, but no models, unless they're wierdly in another directory)

We have Fire, Frost and Storm Atronachs... but that's it.

Um... what about Dremora, Clannfears and Scamps? At least?

I get they're not a priority because the game's not about Daedra this time, but they've been a staple of the series since Daggerfall. If you cut them out, you might as well cut out Imperials, since they've been in even LESS games. So, where are they?

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:30 am

In case you forgot, the way to Oblivion is shut.

It was made by those who are dead, and the dead keep it.

» Wed May 09, 2012 5:40 am

In case you forgot, the way to Oblivion is shut.

It was made by those who are dead, and the dead keep it.

And yet people can summon Atronachs just fine and from the looks of things, Sheogorath and Nocturnal show up in person.

So your argument doesn't hold water.

» Wed May 09, 2012 6:55 am

In case you forgot, the way to Oblivion is shut.

In case you forgot, Oblivion wasn't "open" in Morrowind either, but there were still plenty roaming about.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:48 am

Daedric realms exist. Beth and reviewers have confirmed this.

» Wed May 09, 2012 2:53 pm

In case you forgot: the way to oblivion was closed in all other TES games and in the biggining of OB. And the end. Conjurors have alwase used magic to pass throught the barrier.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:29 am

You can still summon things though. Read the Infernal City & Lord of Souls

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:30 am

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» Wed May 09, 2012 12:18 pm

I don't see why there would be, the portals were shut down 200 years ago. No Oblivion portals = No clannfears, dremora, nor scamps.

» Wed May 09, 2012 4:27 am

*facepalm*

Oblivion is always open. You only closed off Mehrunes Dagon in "Oblivion"

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:23 pm

I thought in oblivion you closed off the ability for oblivion to manifest itself in the material plane, and since it couldn't before and conjurers could pull daedra through, it seems you should be able to, but one COULD make the argument that in closing off oblivion you stopped it from manifesting at all, on it's own or conjured. I just don't know.

» Wed May 09, 2012 5:54 am

Spoiler

Also, dagon was killed in Oblivion. This could mean that they, having lost him, may be on their gaurd for invasions of their land. There could be civil wars, fear from having suffered major losses in Oblivion and so on.

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:55 am

Yes, but the dragonfires were lit later, I assume, therefore no more Oblivion portals can open up on Nirn until they go dark again. If they go dark again.

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:01 am

Spoiler

Also, dagon was killed in Oblivion. This could mean that they, having lost him, may be on their gaurd for invasions of their land. There could be civil wars, fear from having suffered major losses in Oblivion and so on.

highly doubt he was killed. probably just banished. cant rember tho.

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:36 pm

Spoiler

Also, dagon was killed in Oblivion. This could mean that they, having lost him, may be on their gaurd for invasions of their land. There could be civil wars, fear from having suffered major losses in Oblivion and so on.

Dagon wasn't killed. He can't be killed. He's a god. The physical manifestation of destruction. Destruction can't exist without him, and he can't exist without destruction. All our buddy Martin did was

Spoiler

Send him back to his realm in Oblivion

» Wed May 09, 2012 11:00 am

*facepalm*

Oblivion is always open. You only closed off Mehrunes Dagon in "Oblivion"

Nein. Daedra can only enter Tamriel through means of an Oblivion gate or a conjurer powerful enough to summon them into Tamriel. With the Oblivion gates shut forever at the end of Oblivion I doubt conjurers would be able to sustain anything as powerful as Dremora.

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:49 am

Hm, none of the monster/creature Daedra that I fought to DEATH in the last game? I'm cool with that.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:45 am

um the load screens indicate Daedra weapons. There is also a perk for it in the smithing perk tree. (I think) I don't remember.

» Wed May 09, 2012 7:23 am

Yes, Oblivion was closed. And yes, that doesn't stop conjurers from summoning SINGLE daedra in. There's a difference between forced summoning and voluntary invasion when it comes to Oblivion manifestation.

And the daedra files may be buried or hidden. I'd wait until I've fought conjurers at different levels to pass judgment. But I'm not really sure what the files generally look like, so that's up to debate.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:58 am

Guys in daggerfall there werent any portals to oblivion open but there were daedra that game that far preceeded this one is obvi bugged,

» Wed May 09, 2012 5:24 am

I thought in oblivion you closed off the ability for oblivion to manifest itself in the material plane, and since it couldn't before and conjurers could pull daedra through, it seems you should be able to, but one COULD make the argument that in closing off oblivion you stopped it from manifesting at all, on it's own or conjured. I just don't know.

In which case, Daedra should not have existed in Morrowind.

Maabz they just thought we'd be sick of seeing them after Ob?

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:04 am

Guys in daggerfall there werent any portals to oblivion open but there were daedra that game that far preceeded this one is obvi bugged,

Those were daedra summoned by mages.

:nerd:

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:34 am

And yet people can summon Atronachs just fine and from the looks of things, Sheogorath and Nocturnal show up in person.

Gods.... Damn.... You... PUT THAT IN A SPOILER TAB. :cryvaultboy:

» Wed May 09, 2012 7:31 am

Those were daedra summoned by mages.

:nerd:

Thats what i was referencing. -__-

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:33 am

Thats what i was referencing. -__-

Yeah, I was having a nerd moment and missed the point of the post.