This game doesn't seem like it will be a TES game

Post » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:17 am

I love The Elder Scrolls, they are my favorite game series, and I love the time and effort put into the games. These games are so easy to get absorbed into, and the lore makes you feel like you're really in the world. These games stick with you and they are always on my mind. Unfortunately, The Elder Scrolls Online just looks like it is going to just be another MMO that true TES fans wont enjoy.

I enjoy playing single player games so much more than online games, and I feel like single player games are easier to get absorbed into. I just dont enjoy the feel of MMORPGs and I dont think that TES was ever meant to be one.

I began playing the TES games with Morrowind and I was instantly hooked. Stepping out into this amazing world full of wonderous quests and thing that could really catch my eye was a feel I had never experienced in a video game. I love the feeling of having the world to yourself, while the NPCs still have a schedule and seem like real people.

With an MMO, the feeling of having the world to myself will be gone, and I feel like the engaging world and gameplay will be gone with it. I have played TES III, IV, and V so much and there is still something to do in all of them. I feel like an MMO version would take away the playablility of it.

I know some could make the argument that an MMO always has something to do, but to me that doesn't matter if what you're doing isn't fun. I love the Elder Scrolls very much, but an MMO just doesn't seem to fit the games.

What are you're opinions on this matter?
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:01 pm

Everytime I ever play a TES game, I'm constantly thinking,.....I wish this was an MMO. That sums up my opinion.

I want skyrim.....but with other people (and understand the limitations and changes required)....and better combat.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:54 pm

... true TES fans wont enjoy.


Please don't speak on behalf of us. There are a ton of "true" TES fans that are looking forward to this or have already played the beta & have enjoyed what has been presented so far.

This game won't affect the single player TES games in any way so don't even worry about that, but I'd say to at least give it a try. You never know, it may end up being something you enjoy and play with friends for years to come!
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Post » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:17 am

I didn't mean to speak on behalf of everyone, I apologize, but I did mean to say that this game does not seem to be what the fans of TES are used to playing and it could very well be something we don't enjoy.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:23 pm

when starting Oblivion my fist thought was "nice character editor" the second one was "this doesn't feel like TES"
when starting Skyrim my first thought was "nice cut scene - wait thats actually ingame-gfx..." the second one was "holy crap, this is not TES at all"

now if I'd have to judge by this I'd say a TES game is only determined by it's name and the universe in which it takes place, while everything else differs

ESO bears the name "the elder scroll" and it takes place in Tamriel, so it has to be a TES game!
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Post » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:23 am

There are also Star Wars and StarTrek MMORPGs. I doubt they ever meant to be an MMORPG. Even Warhammer license was bought two times: THQ made some strategy games and Mythic/EA developed an MMORPG. But what about the fans who played JUST this sort of games? Like tabletops? Or just reading Star Wars novels or watching the films?

TES is not the first IP which tries to explore another type of genre. There are a lot of TES players and TESO won't delite all TES players for sure. Some might say: I prefer the singleplayer games while some other player enjoys TES as MMORPG even more. You are not forced to play it if you don't like it.
I ... wouldn't really enjoy PURE TES singleplayer converted into an MMORPG. But I'd like to see some sort of coop mode for TES singleplayer games.
Thus I can understand some mechanical changes in an MMORPG. And I like them.

In addition ... I don't really like that you say true TES fans because I really love TES lore and singleplayer games while I also play a lot of MMORPGs.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:14 pm

The one thing i kept saying to myself while playing skyrim was.."i feel so alone in this world, i wish this was online and i could come across other adventurers like me"
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Post » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:33 am

I guess I am just not really a fan of MMOs. I think it is in part due to the fact that I loved KOTOR and then when i was hoping for KOTOR 3, they come out with an MMO that flops. Now Lucasarts is no longer a dev. I know they didn't dev the KOTOR games, but they now have ruined the good name of KOTOR by putting out an MMO spin off that floped, and I don't want to see the same thing happen to TES.

Once again I appologize for the "true fans" comment.
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Post » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:30 am

I love The Elder Scrolls, they are my favorite game series, and I love the time and effort put into the games. These games are so easy to get absorbed into, and the lore makes you feel like you're really in the world. These games stick with you and they are always on my mind. Unfortunately, The Elder Scrolls Online just looks like it is going to just be another MMO that true TES fans wont enjoy.

I enjoy playing single player games so much more than online games, and I feel like single player games are easier to get absorbed into. I just dont enjoy the feel of MMORPGs and I dont think that TES was ever meant to be one.

I began playing the TES games with Morrowind and I was instantly hooked. Stepping out into this amazing world full of wonderous quests and thing that could really catch my eye was a feel I had never experienced in a video game. I love the feeling of having the world to yourself, while the NPCs still have a schedule and seem like real people.

With an MMO, the feeling of having the world to myself will be gone, and I feel like the engaging world and gameplay will be gone with it. I have played TES III, IV, and V so much and there is still something to do in all of them. I feel like an MMO version would take away the playablility of it.

I know some could make the argument that an MMO always has something to do, but to me that doesn't matter if what you're doing isn't fun. I love the Elder Scrolls very much, but an MMO just doesn't seem to fit the games.

What are you're opinions on this matter?

Honestly, and this isn't me trying to be offensive in any way shape or form so please do not perceive it as such.

If you feel that you would rather a single player experience, then you may just be one of those people who enjoy single player games more than multiplayer games; therefore you should not be putting yourself into an MMO and should likely wait until the next single player release.

This game is for those of us who have enjoyed TES series and have longed for an MMO version.
Myself, I absolutely love the idea, I remember the very first time I played Morrowind (within the first 2 weeks of release) and thinking, "Wow... if only this was an MMO it would be amazing!"
Im very excited and looking forward to this game. And they have and are still improving on points of merging the single player feel into an MMO world, I'm confident, hopeful, and have faith in ZOS's decisions so far.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:00 pm

I guess I am just not really a fan of MMOs. I think it is in part due to the fact that I loved KOTOR and then when i was hoping for KOTOR 3, they come out with an MMO that flops. Now Lucasarts is no longer a dev. I know they didn't dev the KOTOR games, but they now have ruined the good name of KOTOR by putting out an MMO spin off that floped, and I don't want to see the same thing happen to TES.

Once again I appologize for the "true fans" comment.

It's different though. Bioware worked on both KoToR AND SWToR. Bethesda, other that being a publisher, has nothing to do with the development of TESO. So again, it WON'T affect the TES single player games in any way.

Also, how has SWToR ruined the name of KoToR? Nobody will say that KoToR is bad now because of SWToR? Yeah the MMO wasn't as stellar as a lot of people hoped (not good, not bad, but pretty meh) but it doesn't change how great KoToR was or how awesome the Old Republic setting is in general. And the stories in SWToR were pretty good, its just everything else that wasn't very great.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:26 pm

Sounds like you should wait for TES6. I love Halo but hate RTS games so I didn't play Halo Wars.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:28 pm

It's different though. Bioware worked on both KoToR AND SWToR. Bethesda, other that being a publisher, has nothing to do with the development of TESO. So again, it WON'T affect the TES single player games in any way.

Also, how has SWToR ruined the name of KoToR? Nobody will say that KoToR is bad now because of SWToR? Yeah the MMO wasn't as stellar as a lot of people hoped (not good, not bad, but pretty meh) but it doesn't change how great KoToR was or how awesome the Old Republic setting is in general. And the stories in SWToR were pretty good, its just everything else that wasn't very great.
My point is that KOTOR was successful and SWToR was less so. The game has flopped and had to resort to Free To Play, and I just don't want to see TES follow in similar footsteps.

I understand that Bethesda is not developing it, but it is still using the Elder Scrolls name, and therefore carries a burden on its shoulders, determining future opinion on the series.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:29 pm

I love The Elder Scrolls, they are my favorite game series, and I love the time and effort put into the games. These games are so easy to get absorbed into, and the lore makes you feel like you're really in the world. These games stick with you and they are always on my mind. Unfortunately, The Elder Scrolls Online just looks like it is going to just be another MMO that true TES fans wont enjoy.

I enjoy playing single player games so much more than online games, and I feel like single player games are easier to get absorbed into. I just dont enjoy the feel of MMORPGs and I dont think that TES was ever meant to be one.

I began playing the TES games with Morrowind and I was instantly hooked. Stepping out into this amazing world full of wonderous quests and thing that could really catch my eye was a feel I had never experienced in a video game. I love the feeling of having the world to yourself, while the NPCs still have a schedule and seem like real people.

With an MMO, the feeling of having the world to myself will be gone, and I feel like the engaging world and gameplay will be gone with it. I have played TES III, IV, and V so much and there is still something to do in all of them. I feel like an MMO version would take away the playablility of it.

I know some could make the argument that an MMO always has something to do, but to me that doesn't matter if what you're doing isn't fun. I love the Elder Scrolls very much, but an MMO just doesn't seem to fit the games.

What are you're opinions on this matter?

Welcome to the forums

Thanks for sharing, tho I would like to note many fans who had the rare opportunity to play it keep saying that it does feel very much like TES game
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Post » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:48 am

This pretty much is just an MMO with a TES theme and setting. People need to accept that. It won't effect the next TES game from being made at all.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:17 pm

I am not reading to much into it until I get to play it, I have played all the Elder Scolls games since game one, but I am also a huge mmo player for many years. I do like what I am hearing about the game from both the dev's and the folks that had some hands on, do I expect it to be like the stand alone games ? maybe a little, I know things will be a bit different, but being able to go through the Elder Scrolls world with my friends is golden to me, I guess time will tell what it is all about..:)
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:58 pm

My point is that KOTOR was successful and SWToR was less so. The game has flopped and had to resort to Free To Play, and I just don't want to see TES follow in similar footsteps.

I understand that Bethesda is not developing it, but it is still using the Elder Scrolls name, and therefore carries a burden on its shoulders, determining future opinion on the series.

Redguard and Battlespire flopped but that didn't stop Morrowind from being a cult classic or Skyrim from being revolutionary.

You worry too much. If you don't fancy online games, then gladly skip this one. If it flops, well then Zenimax will realize that it isn't ready for the MMO market. That's about the only thing that'll happen.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:13 pm

Redguard and Battlespire flopped but that didn't stop Morrowind from being a cult classic or Skyrim from being revolutionary.

You worry too much. If you don't fancy online games, then gladly skip this one. If it flops, well then Zenimax will realize that it isn't ready for the MMO market. That's about the only thing that'll happen.
I understand that, I just notice that this game has attracted a bit of attention, and with the development costs, I don't want to see a good company go under if the game flops. WoW really owns the MMO market, so making one is risky business.
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My point is that KOTOR was successful and SWToR was less so. The game has flopped and had to resort to Free To Play, and I just don't want to see TES follow in similar footsteps.

I understand that Bethesda is not developing it, but it is still using the Elder Scrolls name, and therefore carries a burden on its shoulders, determining future opinion on the series.

We shouldnt use SWTOR as a benchmark for success or failure. We need to keep in mind it was made by Bioware...a once great company that has fallen apart in recent years. Mass Effect 3...fail, SWTOR fail, Dragon Age Fail. They have been svcking up their franchises. The developer is the reason it failed, and Bioware isnt making this game Zenimax is along with Bethesda support.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:30 pm

I understand that, I just notice that this game has attracted a bit of attention, and with the development costs, I don't want to see a good company go under if the game flops. WoW really owns the MMO market, so making one is risky business.
If ESO ever flopped it won't affect TES series at all. The only way TES will ever be ruined is if Bethesda themselves fail to deliver when they finally make ES VI. But that will be on long ways off since most likely the next focus will be getting Fallout 4 out.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:24 pm

We shouldnt use SWTOR as a benchmark for success or failure. We need to keep in mind it was made by Bioware...a once great company that has fallen apart in recent years. Mass Effect 3...fail, SWTOR fail, Dragon Age Fail. They have been svcking up their franchises. The developer is the reason it failed, and Bioware isnt making this game Zenimax is along with Bethesda support.
Completely off topic real quick, but what do you mean Dragon Age was a fail?
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:19 pm

If ESO ever flopped it won't affect TES series at all. The only way TES will ever be ruined is if Bethesda themselves fail to deliver when they finally make ES VI. But that will be on long ways off since most likely the next focus will be getting Fallout 4 out.
It could very well affect the Elder Scrolls, if the game flops hard enough.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:02 pm

It could very well affect the Elder Scrolls, if the game flops hard enough.
No it won't. Because if it ever flopped and Bethesda released a new TES game people will be relieved that they stopped with the atrocity that was ESO and finally going back to just making a TES single player.

Again, only Bethesda can ruin TES series. It's just like WoW. Nothing will ever kill it, only Blizzard.
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No it won't. Because if it ever flopped and Bethesda released a new TES game people will be relieved that they stopped with the atrocity that was ESO and finally going back to just making a TES single player.

Again, only Bethesda can ruin TES series. It's just like WoW. Nothing will ever kill it, only Blizzard.
While I do understand what you're saying, I just don't have much faith in an MMO TES. Personally, if the game had a different title, I think the game has potential.
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Post » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:29 pm

While I do understand what you're saying, I just don't have much faith in an MMO TES. Personally, if the game had a different title, I think the game has potential.
Well fans of TES (which many of them already do know) is that this isn't going to be Skyrim Online. People realized that this isn't a copy/paste of any of the other games (which is a good thing, because if they 100% it the game would fail miserably as an MMO). If you don't like MMOs that's fine, just don't play this game then and just wait for Bethesda to make ES VI (which they already said they will be working on even though ESO is going on).

And I bet if Bioware were to attempt to make KotOR again I would bet you a lot of people would still pick up the game. I never associated SWtOR with KotOR at all. The series has not been ruined for me. But then again with Bioware's recent track record of making just kind of "meh" RPG games I'm sure some people would be hesitant.
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Well fans of TES (which many of them already do know) is that this isn't going to be Skyrim Online. People realized that this isn't a copy/paste of any of the other games (which is a good thing, because if they 100% it the game would fail miserably as an MMO). If you don't like MMOs that's fine, just don't play this game then and just wait for Bethesda to make ES VI (which they already said they will be working on even though ESO is going on).

And I bet if Bioware were to attempt to make KotOR again I would bet you a lot of people would still pick up the game. I never associated SWtOR with KotOR at all. The series has not been ruined for me. But then again with Bioware's recent track record of making just kind of "meh" RPG games I'm sure some people would be hesitant.
Dragon Age Origins was pretty good on Bioware's part
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