But you only joined this Forum 1 hour ago. Or did you just post on the wrong site/forum?

Maybe you got lost during your internet journey.

Did you get some fresh Air and a nice cup of green tea? It really helps if you are upset and angry over stuff on the internet.

Oh and nice, you finally acknowledge that Zenimax Online is developing this game. Im glad i could help you understand this.

Whoooooosh.

Love and Tolerance is important, but so is Laughter.

Did you get your book?

While i disagree with this post, i will not be playing this, not really my thing

Well, I can only assume the OP is a troll attempt. No one can be that bad at reading comprehension. The article you reference itself contradicts many of your points. Not only that, but you haven't seen the game in action. How do you know it has no TES elements? That just sounds absurd. Then we get another person in here saying that it will be just like SWTOR with 'trinity' combat - uh, did you read the article?

Anyway, I'm not gonna wear myself out hitting each point. Just search these forums OP - most of your points have been refuted many times.

Thank you for the time and effort you invested into that response.

Time to play some Devil's Advocate. The OP can't link to the source, since the source is a leaked article revealing info that Bethesda/Zenimax doesn't want revealed.

Remember what happened to threads linking to leaked info about Skyrim?

I love the noobs who think something will be crap but they hang around the forums. There are forums for other games that you might enjoy elsewhere. Plus, you literally said nothing new in your post.

Oh silly this is not a Book site/forum. Its a Videogame Website. You just posted on the wrong forum.

LOL you called me a noob! That means that I'm new to something! Since I'm posting on a forum, that must mean that I'm new to posting on a forum. You're right! I'm new to posting on this forum.

By the gods, you're a brilliant detective. Sir Doyle, nothing eludes you most truly!

Never said this game will have the trinity system. Pointing out that people are expecting this game to be fantastic and groundbreaking with so many differences from the flood of other MMO's on the market and when the time comes, bam! Same damn thing with a different coat of paint. Combat will be like GW2 and i'm willing to bet it wont do it as well either.

SWTOR was WoW so why play it over WoW?
TESO will be GW2 so why play it over GW2?

Same concept, just replace "trinity system" with "GW2 system" and continue the cycle.

I'll laugh my ass off if they seriously have a monthly fee for this game. Wouldn't surprise me though since they openly admitted they are already planning expansion content already lol. Good luck against GW2 then.

I'm a TES really devoted fan, generally speaking. But the other TES [censored] in this thread are being defensive and combative. That's a sure sign of desperation. He's saying it's a trap because the info is leaked and posting it here would get him banned.

The OP has made some good counter arguments to the common riposts about why the game is doomed.

Oh and since you made an issue about join date, have a look at mine.

Where did you get your copy of the game?

I only ask because you've clearly already played it, or you wouldn't have such detailed information on gameplay mechanics.

You missed a few phases, though:

Phase 1.5
- It's not going to be a sandbox? This is going to svck! Why couldn't they make this game like SWG?

Phase 1.6
-Why do all the ships look like they came out of the original trilogy? WTF?

Phase 2.5
- Why are the jedi holding pringles cans, and why does this game look like WoW? WTF?

Phase 2.6
-Okay, so despite the fact that it's over a thousand years before the movies(sound familiar?), everything is exactly the same as in the movies? WTF?

Phase 2.7
-So space combat is going to be a rail shooter? Why couldn't they make this like Jump to Lightspeed(in SWG)? WTF?

Phase 3.5
-If I hear the word "iconic" used in a sentence one more time, I'm going to punch someone in the face. This game is starting to sound like SWG(the bad version)

Phase 3.6
-Well crafting certainly svcks. Why couldn't they do it like SWG?

Phase 4
-Okay, so the color of lightsaber you can use is determined by how nice you are? I thought Lucas said these weren't mood rings? WTF?

There were early warning signs that SWTOR was not going to be that great, but a lot of people(myself included) ignored them because Star Wars. I don't intend to make the same mistake this time around. If ES:O can prove that it is a TES game instead of a watered down cash grab, so be it. I won't be svckered into spending $60 before then. And the early forecast is not favorable.

1. Yes it does look like TES and is every bit TES.

2. The game sounds and looks like it could be a great online adventure.

3. It has mmo gameplay not wow, wow didnt invent anything it copied.

4. Stop it with the innovation crap and give it up already.

the more whine the better, it means they probably listen, valid points dont help as they hardly look at indiviadual posts. But with that many people whining, yup that will make an impact. and im on the bandwagon now WOOO

also yeah if it has monthly fees itll crash land. that wont work. but they sureley will be too stubborn to understand that.

The first two were entirely subjective, so I'll leave them alone, but:

3. You could say the same of Apple, but every portable music player and smartphone gets compared to the iPhone/iPod. Popularity overrides originality in popular discussion, oddly enough.

4. Why would we? I didn't go into SWTOR saying "I want more of the same with a Star Wars skin!" When that's what I got, I quit.

Do the smart thing and not pay attention to this project then until the game launches for a few months and read and watch videos. If you would have done that with SWTIR it would have saved you time and money.

I think it might succeed. I do hope they tweak it a bit like add first person view and a few more things before release so that it feels like a TES single player game.

You can always zoom into first person

Here's the thing though: I can do that with Guild Wars because I have no emotional investment in Guild Wars. Whether the game flops or succeeds, I don't care. I could do the same thing if SOE announced Everquest 3. EQ2 was a big disappointment for me and SOE has since proven to be a company I just won't do business with. I'm past Everquest, so it doesn't affect me anymore.

TES, though? I've been playing their games since I was still in high school. In contrast to some people, apparently, Bethesda hasn't disappointed me with their flagship franchise yet. I want ZeniO to succeed. I want TES:O to be a game worthy of its namesake. And if there's even a small chance that the dissent of those of us unhappy with the apparent direction of the game can make the devs go in a direction that won't result in the game suffering the same fate as SWTOR, then us leaving the forums to the cheerleader club would be a bad thing. And if the final product still turns out to be a watered down cash grab attempt, well least I will have tried to prevent it in the only way I can as a spectator.

Wow you got an Advance copy of the game, Please tell me how, Since you seem to know all of the features it will have!

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