1.8 UpdateSolstheim DLC discussion Thread - #37

Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:48 pm

Fast forward to 3:43 on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JerGcF4puAE, and let the excitement rush through you as you know there is a lot more content to come.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:30 am

I certainly apologize for not providing you all due credit, Sir. Skoomacat, I must also say you have an excellent point about the Spider and Mephala.

I wasnt asking for full credit just saying it has been suggested and im not the only one.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:27 pm

I wasnt asking for full credit just saying it has been suggested and im not the only one.

Then I give you no credit. Acceptable? :biggrin:
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:13 pm

Where? Mephala is attributed to the founding of the Morag Tong.

My bad your right... I was reading the wrong wiki lore page when i saw that.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:51 am

This is a gross exaggeration on the importance of the ruling dynasties. A number of individuals were able to wear the amulet of kings, without being a descendant of Alessia, Reman or Tiber.

It's not about the actual lineage. Of course that could help, but to be Dragonborn is a gift from Akatosh. If Akatosh thought the heirs were worthy, he bestowed the gift upon them.
That's because the dynasties were Dragonborn, at least the Septim one, and probably the Reman one, too.
That's the point of The Convenant.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:03 pm

Then I give you no credit. Acceptable? :biggrin:

I break your legs, Acceptable ?
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:36 pm

No. You are arguing that there only 2 or 3 known Dragonborn when we know that's not true.

Known in this case = explicitly stated to be.

Every single emperor from the Alessian Dynasty, Including Alessia, the Reman Dynasty, and the Septim Dynasty, as well as Wulfharth were all Dragonborn. Alessia was the first. Mankar Camoran may have been Dragonborn as well, considering he was able to wear the Amulet of Kings.

You can't just pretend a major part of the lore isn't cannon. Also being Dragonborn isn't hereditary. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Book_of_the_Dragonborn.

Where is it stated that to wear the Amulet of Kings, you had to be Dragonborn?
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:34 pm

It's not about the actual lineage. Of course that could help, but to be Dragonborn is a gift from Akatosh. If Akatosh thought the heirs were worthy, he bestowed the gift upon them.
That's because the dynasties were Dragonborn, at least the Septim one, and probably the Reman one, too.

I thought you had to be a Dragonborn in order to wield the amulet of kings... i could be wrong but i thought thats why you couldnt wear it in Oblivioin, so would make Martin and Uriel both Dargonborn (assuming im correct)
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:27 pm

Where is it stated that to wear the Amulet of Kings, you had to be Dragonborn?

That's the whole story of The Covenant.

On behalf of the suffering human races, St. Alessia, the first in the line of Cyrodiils, sought the aid of Akatosh, the Dragon God of Time, and ruler of the noble Aedra. Akatosh, looking with pity upon the plight of men, drew precious blood from his own heart, and blessed St. Alessia with this blood of Dragons, and made a Covenant that so long as Alessia's generations were true to the dragon blood, Akatosh would endeavor to seal tight the Gates of Oblivion, and to deny the armies of daedra and undead to their enemies, the Daedra-loving Ayleids.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:48 am

That's the whole story of The Covenant.

Doesn't scream "Dragonborn" to me.

Blood has entirely different connotations to what we're told Dragonborn is in Skyrim, that's my issue.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:19 am

Doesn't scream "Dragonborn" to me.

Blood has entirely different connotations to what we're told Dragonborn is in Skyrim, that's my issue.

Actually I live in Germany and Dragonborn is called "Drachenblut" here.
Dragonblood. Just sayin'. :D

But the Emperors with the dragonblood are called Dragonborn Emperors.
It's clearly intended for them to be Dragonborn.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:21 pm

Does Shezaarine (or however you spell that) mean you have the blood of a dragon and then being dragonborn means you have the soul of one? What is the difference.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:02 pm

Fast forward to 3:43 on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JerGcF4puAE, and let the excitement rush through you as you know there is a lot more content to come.



At around 8:30 he talks about the Giant Mudcrab & Sea creatures. Giant Mubcrab as final boss in next dlc I bet.


Speaking of which I haven't seen much speculation on these Benthic Lurkers. What kind of creature could these things be? Spuids? Sharks? Crabs?
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:48 pm

i wonder what house telvanni has been up to.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:55 am

Actually I live in Germany and Dragonborn is called "Drachenblut" here.
Dragonblood. Just sayin'. :biggrin:

But the Emperors with the dragonblood are called Dragonborn Emperors.
It's clearly intended for them to be Dragonborn.

Doesn't sit well with me, but it's probably best left for another thread.


Does Shezaarine (or however you spell that) mean you have the blood of a dragon and then being dragonborn means you have the soul of one? What is the difference.

Shezarrines are avatars of Lorkhan/Shor essentially.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:15 pm

Most scholars agree that the term was first used in connection with the Covenant of Akatosh, when the blessed St. Alessia was given the Amulet of Kings and the Dragonfires in the Temple of the One were first lit. "Akatosh, looking with pity upon the plight of men, drew precious blood from his own heart, and blessed St. Alessia with this blood of Dragons, and made a Covenant that so long as Alessia's generations were true to the dragon blood, Akatosh would endeavor to seal tight the Gates of Oblivion, and to deny the armies of deadra and undead to their enemies, the Daedra-loving Alyeids." Those blessed by Akatosh with "the dragon blood" became known more simply as Dragonborn.
This is from "The Book of Dragonborn." It very clearly states that having Dragon blood simply means Dragonborn. Now admit you are wrong so I can go to sleep.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:29 am

Does Shezaarine (or however you spell that) mean you have the blood of a dragon and then being dragonborn means you have the soul of one? What is the difference.

No, totally different things.
Shezarrine means you are a part of the soul of Shezarr (also known as Shor to the Nords or Lorkhan).
Actually, Shezarr is dead, killed by Trinimac and Auriel because he tricked them into the creation of the mortal world. The Shezarrines are fragments of him becoming substantial again.
They are heroes of mankind, because mankind is Shezarrs favorite race, as opposed to elves, who are anti-Shezarr.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:58 pm

Soul/Blood is the same thing when it comes to referring to a dragonborn. Paarthurnax says "the dragonblood runs strong in you" when you shout at him.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:52 pm

Doesn't sit well with me, but it's probably best left for another thread.

I don't say you are bound to be mistaken, but there are strong hints in the lore that the dynsaties are Dragonborn.
If you don't like it, you don't have to believe it. That's the good thing in TES, there are many possible explanations for stuff.
Many people are thinking for example that the dynasties were Dragonborn, but in a different way than the PC or Tiber Septim.

i wonder what house telvanni has been up to.

:devil: Be careful what you wish for. House Telvanni is always up to something you you don't want to know, believe me. :bunny:
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:28 am

At around 8:30 he talks about the Giant Mudcrab & Sea creatures. Giant Mubcrab as final boss in next dlc I bet.


Speaking of which I haven't seen much speculation on these Benthic Lurkers. What kind of creature could these things be? Spuids? Sharks? Crabs?

He also talks about implementing PC Mods to console for free which would be awesome because there are alot of nexus and steam workshop mods i want but a giant mudcrab boss would be boss as hell :devil:
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:55 pm

Speaking of which I haven't seen much speculation on these Benthic Lurkers. What kind of creature could these things be? Spuids? Sharks? Crabs?

Go back 20 threads or so and you are going to find tons of speculation about this stuff. :run:
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:48 pm

/Random question. How does Akatosh choose who to bless, does that person have to be good and morale or what?
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:30 pm

/Random question. How does Akatosh choose who to bless, does that person have to be good and morale or what?

From what I know, they are born that way. Nobody knows why Akatosh does it. Some might even say that even Akatosh doesn't know why he does it..
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:11 pm

/Random question. How does Akatosh choose who to bless, does that person have to be good and morale or what?
He's the Dragon god of time. He pretty much know whats going to happen and who needs his blessing at what times. They don't have to be good; they just have to be at the right place at the right time in their life.
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Post » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:29 pm

/Random question. How does Akatosh choose who to bless, does that person have to be good and morale or what?

Randomborn. Prerogative of a God.

Seriously? No one knows how he choses. He is the God of Time, I guess he already knows the outcome of all possible choices... makes it easy to chose.
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