Using ForceGreet : V - Skyrim

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:12 pm

Comment the line out (with a ";")

Add the Property

Take away the comment (";")

Now I get this:

Starting 1 compile threads for 1 files...Compiling "TIF__03026ABC"...d:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(21,24): script property NPCAlias already definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(21,24): script variable ::NPCAlias_var already definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(21,24): script property NPCAlias already has a get function definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(21,24): script property NPCAlias already has a set function definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(23,24): script property NPCAlias already definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(23,24): script variable ::NPCAlias_var already definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(23,24): script property NPCAlias already has a get function definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(23,24): script property NPCAlias already has a set function definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(25,24): script property NPCAlias already definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(25,24): script variable ::NPCAlias_var already definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(25,24): script property NPCAlias already has a get function definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(25,24): script property NPCAlias already has a set function definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(27,25): script property NPCAlias already definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(27,25): script variable ::NPCAlias_var already definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(27,25): script property NPCAlias already has a get function definedd:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Scripts\Source\TIF__03026ABC.psc(27,25): script property NPCAlias already has a set function definedNo output generated for TIF__03026ABC, compilation failed.Batch compile of 1 files finished. 0 succeeded, 1 failed.Failed on TIF__03026ABC

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:12 pm

Rightclick on the script and choose edit source.

Down at the bottom, after END FRAGMENT CODE, you should have two properties:

ReferenceAlias Property NPCAlias Auto
Scene Property UnwelcomeScene Auto

Delete any others.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:13 pm

Rightclick on the script and choose edit source.

Down at the bottom, after END FRAGMENT CODE, you should have two properties:

ReferenceAlias Property NPCAlias Auto
Scene Property UnwelcomeScene Auto

Delete any others.

That was a good idea

It compiled that time

Woot!

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:01 pm

Ok..I've set the properties and Im off to test it after I record the voices.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:57 pm

That was cool

They said the lines after the dialog. Is there a way to tell them to say it after certain lines from the main NPC? Like right after "You're not welcome here!"?

Also..

They started attacking after the 8 seconds without the warning text "That's it. I've waited long enough!"

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:07 am

Yes, you would just put the line to start the quest in the End papyrus fragment for that first topic instead (which you'd have to make a goodbye topic, to get the dialogue to finish). Then you'd have to edit the last Phase of your scene (doubleclick on the phase box), and in the Completion papyrus fragment make the NPC forcegreet the player with the second topic.

You probably need to pass more than 8 seconds to the registerforsingleupdate now.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:11 pm

Yes, you would just put the line to start the quest in the End papyrus fragment for that first topic instead (which you'd have to make a goodbye topic, to get the dialogue to finish). Then you'd have to edit the last Phase of your scene (doubleclick on the phase box), and in the Completion papyrus fragment make the NPC forcegreet the player with the second topic.

You probably need to pass more than 8 seconds to the registerforsingleupdate now.

Is that referring to the line "That's it. I've waited long enough!" or to making the other bandits say their lines somewhere else in the dialog?

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:15 am

Now I've woken my wife up recording that LOL

Be back tomorrow (5 am here)

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:25 am

That was about making the scene happen in the middle of the dialogue instead of at the end. For the 'that's it, I've waited' line - in your NPC's script, between the Say and the StartCombat, you must put a

Utility.Wait(3)

or the bandit won't have long enough to say it.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:45 am

That was about making the scene happen in the middle of the dialogue instead of at the end. For the 'that's it, I've waited' line - in your NPC's script, between the Say and the StartCombat, you must put a

Utility.Wait(3)

or the bandit won't have long enough to say it.

Actually I set it at 5 seconds. Still no warning however

Is there something else that is triggering combat?

Scriptname LBGQ30attackScript extends ReferenceAliasObjectReference Property GuardSpot  Auto  Topic Property LongEnough  Auto  Event OnUpdate()    Actor Player = Game.GetPlayer()    Actor NPC = GetActorReference()    if GuardSpot.GetDistance(Player) <= 1000	    NPC.Say(LongEnough)	    Utility.Wait(5)	    NPC.StartCombat(Player)    else	    ; TODO - if the player has gone far enough away, disable self, stop quest. Otherwise:	    RegisterForSingleUpdate(8)    endifendEvent

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:16 pm

Not in that script. Have you set a quest stage or changed a faction in the dialogue? Or is your LongEnough topic not set up/recorded properly?

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:27 pm

Not in that script. Have you set a quest stage or changed a faction in the dialogue? Or is your LongEnough topic not set up/recorded properly?

I was thinking about the recording so I have re-recorded it several times. I keep getting that bug on the recording screen that says "N" as far as recording...I usually just back out without saving at that point. But I do know that it's recorded correctly and turned into a fuz file.

There is a stage change at the end Pap in "Then we shall see!" dialog, where the player says he will fight, that sets the stage to 30 (initiate combat)

And there is another stage set to 30 at the end of "That's it! I've waited long enough"

edit

For some reason the dialog "..I've waited long enough" isn't getting triggered, I think

edit edit

So I tested this theory out by setting the NPCs combat script to a different place in the dialog and that didn't trigger either

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:12 pm

I'm lost. I thought you said they were attacking you after a few seconds? What's making them do that if you aren't saying you'll fight? Surely it is the script.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:36 pm

I'm lost. I thought you said they were attacking you after a few seconds? What's making them do that if you aren't saying you'll fight? Surely it is the script.

I haven't timed it but they seem to be attacking about the amount of time that I've set in the scripts. (I included a wait() in the end Pap to the last dialog ... "...I've waited long enough!"

I've been pouring over it for a long time... /me stumped too

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:42 am

On the last line of dialog, when the NPC says "Good, now get lost" I turned off "Goodbye"

When I ran the game the NPC went through his lines and at the end a prompt came up with "What?" and he says the line "....I've waited long enough" before attacking.

So I proved that the line was recorded and set. It's remains to be seen as to why it doesn't get triggered by his combat script.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:24 pm

One odd thing I do notice

The other NPCs, other than the main one that does the talking, initiate combat first then the main NPC starts his combat routine.

It's only a split second but it is reproducible every time.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:45 am

Put a Debug.Notification("About to start combat!") in the script. Let's at least make sure it's running at all.

Edit: I think it probably isn't, then. The NPC is probably attacking just because the others are.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:21 am

I don't know what packages and factions you've given those bandits, but you need to put yourself in the same faction or set their aggressiveness lower, so they don't attack you before your main NPC does.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:01 pm

man

I thought for sure we were on the right track

But I put "Debug.MessageBox("About to start combat!")" in the combat script and the prompt showed up exactly as it should

:confused:

So the problem must have something to do with "NPC.Say(LongEnough)"

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:45 am

I had the NPCs factions to "Bandit Faction" and "Bandit Guild Faction" which was completely unnecessary I think, so I took that off of them.

And all of them have only "Aggressive" set.

But that last play-through showed something else I hadn't noticed since I added the debug message.

The message box pops up waaay early. The box pops up, then there is a wait, about 8 - 10 seconds, then they go into combat.

I have the debug notice inserted just before "Say(LongEnough)".

Where the pause is may be where the problem is

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:23 pm

If you set the property to other topics, do they work?

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:08 pm

Nope

I've tried a few too.

Since I took off all factions from the NPCs the main NPC doesn't initiate combat. He just starts walking around.

So I just put the bandit faction on all of the NPCs and I'm going to test it right now.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:27 pm

Well. The pause is gone now.

I get the messagebox and they immediately start combat.

I'll try recording the "LongEnough" line once again. I can't think of anything else.

Also, the main NPC is still not starting combat.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:33 am

Maybe because he is still trying to speak. If you take the factions off and comment out the 'Say' line in the script, does the NPC start combat? You could maybe use another scene to deliver the line instead.

» Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:23 am

Because the line "GetOwningQuest().setstage(30)" is in the end Pap in the LongEnough dialog combat doesn't start at all.

So, at least that says the dialog is being initiated, just not spoken.

As for the main NPC suddenly not going into combat, I don't know what I did. I'm back tracking now.

BTW.

I really appreciate your patience and kindfull help on this....thanks!