Video game boquet... Earthbound somewhere in there.
Or game pixels .... Love pixels.

http://www.inquisitr.com/178897/friend-zone-world-champion/

Just don't end up like this guy.

BOOM! This man speaks the truth! Man up OP. Go over to her house and grab her!

How about a heart shaped box of condems?
It shows that you love her and are careful.

Ah Valentine's Day--- .

After 5 years of dating the same girl... (on Feb 5th! Yay!) It has been hard to find new ideas for valentines gifts.

Here is one plan I did for my girlfriend when we were first dating-

MAKE dinner, but don't set up a romantic ambiance. Just a casual dinner. NEXT- Set up some cool movie theater type thing at your place and just pick a movie that you know she likes that isn't too romantic. Provide popcorn, candy etc (movie snacks). Blame staying home instead of going out on wanting to save a little extra money for some reason. Afterwards take her home and be done with the night. That's kind of like saying hey I like you, but I want to make our friendship a relationship sometime in the future.

If you want to- buy a cheap bracelet (or something like that) that fits her style and give it to her before you go home. If she keeps wearing it you know you did something right.

Cheap, takes some time, and she might appreciate it. If not... Well. At least you can say you tried.

I've done these kinds of things, and 5 years later I am still happy with the same girl!

Congrats on getting a girlfriend. Seriously, no sarcasm here, my candy heart avatar represents my brand of sarcasm though.



Yea, I do know her well, sometimes it irritates her how well I know her. Good ideas, btw.
I think that I may have set the bar a little high already, unfortunately. For Christmas I gave her a long sleeve shirt with a picture of a saxophone (we're calling it a tenor sax, since that's what she plays) on it under the words "I've got sax appeal". Absolutely perfect for her.

Anyways, just a thought on your last line- wisdom comes not with age. She's 20 and far more knowledgeable/ experienced at relationships than I am at my age, but like I said it's only been over the last year that we've spent so much time together and things got..... complicated.


Why have I not done anything so far? Lemme see, when we first met she was too young, and it's only been semi-recently that I've had these feelings for her. Also I'm a tad of a social outcast (recluse) who almost never 'connects' with anyone (I really don't know how the two of us got to be friends as it is) and has been mislead or outright lied to so many times that I have good reason to be wary. Not everyone fits into neat little categories like 'normal' society thinks we do, buddy. Just because it's easy for you and most everyone else doesn't mean that is, or ever will be easy for me.
This things got sidetracked, anyways.



Just for the record, after I got off work today, I went to see her and *gasp* try to ask her out. How'd it go? One of her ex-boyfriends was there hanging out with her and threw my mood all off. I find it interesting how a few weeks ago she said after she transfered schools (Butler Community College to Wichita State University) she wouldn't have anything to do with him anymore, especially since the girl that he got pregnant after she (my friend) broke up with him is due soon.
At times I really think that it's better to maintain solitude, human relationships make little sense to me.

Sounds like she has a case of "It's broken but I can fix it!" mentality. Lots of people have those mentalities in relationships and give people lots of chances they really shouldn't. I have done it and have had it done to me. I knew damn well I did not deserve to be with this one girl after I let her down really badly. I did something that was really stupid around her family. I didn't cheat or hit her or anything like that, just kind of got pissed she was still smoking cigs after a year and a half of trying to quit. She made so little progress that I felt like she wasn't even trying and I hate cigs. I may have been a little to unwary with my words and the family found out she smoked. But I kept trying and she gave me another chance.

You know it does sound like you may have been "friend zoned" for now though. That is not as big a deal as some people make it. But if you have competition this may be the best time to do something. If the ex-boyfriend is trying to get with her again and is kind of an idiot [censored] up then you just have to make her realize how much better of an option you are. Just make sure you are a better option. Because if you are faking it till you make it your relationship with her will crash and burn so fast you will be wondering if it ever even happened.

I can't tell you how often I think the exact same way. People are strange, and even when trying to behave in normal customs, they will often surprise you by the things that you didn't think they would ever do. It seems like so much work to maintain a relationship that really isn't going anywhere, especially when you end up being just the "nice guy" to a girl and then some other guy sweeps her off her feet by telling her a load of BS. Then when he breaks her heart she comes to you crying about what went wrong.

Listen to Albino; She does have the "Its broken but I can fix it mentality!" and it can be a real pain in the ass to get around. Trust me; I've been really into this one girl from a couple months now, but she has a BF. Thing is, their relationship is so [censored] up that they haven't even hung out in six months, and haven't had any actual fun with each other in at least a year; In fact, anytime he texts her its always to insult her. But yet she stays with him, even though she knows he hates her and he has probably thought they've been broken up for a while, she clings onto whats left of their relationship for god knows what. Seriously, anyone know? I'm clueless.

Anyway, I think the fact your thinking about getting her something is a great start. My suggestion? Get the rose, but check out some of the local Jewelry stores. One right by me had a sale for some beautiful heart shaped silver necklaces for over $100 off, only $20. Its a low entry point, and it and the rose can both be played off as a friend just caring about a friend, or points out to her that you may want more in your relationship.

Hope you decide on something, and get the girl. Good luck to you buddy.


It's sad I knew exactly what the picture was going to be as soon as I saw the link.

Picture makes me laugh so much I feel bad; Like Karma's gonna' get me and put me in the exact same spot.

When is Valentine's Day?

353 days ago. The OP is a bit late.

I'd get me JaffaCakes. Having a steady supply of them is like owning my life

Girls like to fix bad boys. Nice guys finish last and all that. The ones that actually matter don't think like that. But everyone has had that one 'unrealistic' crush, who goes out with a [censored] bag and you wonder why? It's because he's a dike to her and she wants to change him.

I had the exact same thing with a girl a few months back. I ended up getting with her, then realising that she was totally vacuous and had little lasting appeal. Girls like that aren't worth the bother...

There's this guy in the mirror I was thinking of asking to be my valentine... It's a shame I missed it.

the best valentines day present a negative pregnancy test

Does guy piss work on pregnancy tests?

Or a pearl necklace.

I assumed as much. I had never run into a girl like this before, didn't even think they existed, assuming they had been nothing but a stereotype invented by the media; But then out of the blue she comes into my life and it turns out she's one of them. Surprise! God has a sense of humor.

I don't know. Maybe it's just about time I give up.

I got her a CD of her (currently) favorite band.

I liked septim007's idea, honestly if you have have to keep purchasing items for her on valentines day, im always of the opinion once you start a trend, and if you need to buy her stuff to get her to keep liking you, theres women out there that do things for money cant remember what there called.

Basically i never buy anyone anything for any listed day, like easter, christmas, valentines day, its commercial crap, if and when i get the urge or i find something i think they'd like i buy it for them no special occasion, if you need to keep purchasing items on days on the calendar to show you care, then its not really showing you care its more of an obligation to buy them something for that one day a year, if your interested in each other, then a day shouldnt be representative or the purchasing of items isnt the basis of a relationship, any day of the year can be valentines days.

Buy a small bottle with a cork. Write a letter or poem and roll it, tie it with a ribbon and put it into the bottle. Maybe if you don't want to write a letter or poem, just write an invitation to dinner and movies.

This, sadly (or maybe not) holds true for me as well.


Ahh..........Seven of Nine..................

Your never too old to Trek

Oh summer that is so good. I am compelled to do that so seriously.

I did that once, only instead of a poem it was a snake. She loved it! After the snake kissed her on the neck she couldn't even move.

Couldn't move? How exciting is that.