Were-bears vs Were wolfs

Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:17 pm

They're actually in the lore and they're the most common lycanthrope in skyrim.

For more information read "http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:On_Lycanthropy"
makes you really wonder if they would include them??
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brandon frier
 
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:09 pm

Werebears are very rare and even rumored to be nonexistant, though we know they actually exist. Read "Lycanthropic Legends of Skyrim".
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:12 pm

Werebears are very rare and even rumored to be nonexistant, though we know they actually exist. Read "Lycanthropic Legends of Skyrim".
Actually the guy was trying to see if rumors of werebears were actually substantiated which he never did, he couldn't even get anyone to really talk about lycanthropes except for one guy referencing the Silver-Hand. Even in the book On Lycanthropy from dagerfall which says werebears are the most common lycanthrope in skyrim the author failed to actually meet any. It is possible that werebears never actually existed and it was simply a legend people took to believe as fact.

I would say wolves, boars and vultures are the only lycanthropes we can truly confrim as existing.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:46 am

Lore wise, does being a werewolf or bear or shark change your human personality?
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:23 pm

It is possible that werebears never actually existed and it was simply a legend people took to believe as fact.
I know. That is what I said on the other thread. But werebears do exist in the ES universe.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:22 pm

the answer is simple when you ask the question what would win if you pit a bear against a wolf? obviously a bear would destroy a wolf 1 on 1 so the same applies to the "were" version
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:10 pm

I vote for the man bear pig. It always wins.
Not even manbearpig could beat the were rabbit...
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:12 am

I think the Werebear would be much stronger in both offense and armor, But much, much slower
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:35 pm

Not even manbearpig could beat the were rabbit...
What about a werechicken
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:22 am

Lore wise, does being a werewolf or bear or shark change your human personality?
I'm not sure. Although a NPC from the DB takes to calling you various food items as nicknames, and blames it him being a werewolf and it "being hard not to see you as food". Though, I suspect becoming a werewolf would make you a little more on edge and eager to hunt and ravage something.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:19 am

Khajiits should be able to transform into werelions and argonians into werecrocodiles lol that would be awesome :)
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:53 am

Khajiits should be able to transform into werelions and argonians into werecrocodiles lol that would be awesome :smile:
They would first have to be infected with that strain of Lychanthropy, and in skyrim, you can only be infected with the werewolf strain.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:25 pm


Cons:
. Larger body fat = slower movement. Not only in running speed but in combat also. If bears deal more damage - they would attack slower to balance. Thus bears would have a higher health to lower stamina ratio. Covering less distance and having to wait for stamina to regenerate more often.
Wolves can run extremely far extremely quickly as they have less fur and more muscle compared to bears.

The top speed for both bears and wolves are similar, around 35 mph (sometimes more for wolves - 40 mph). Wolves are able to maintain a higher speed for a longer time though.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:12 pm

Werebears are very rare and even rumored to be nonexistant, though we know they actually exist. Read "Lycanthropic Legends of Skyrim".

That could be said of all Werebeast. They are all rare, even the most widespread, Werewolves have been called very rare, many believe them to be myth and they probably all try to stay anonymous lest they attract those who know of their existence and wish them dead.

Actually the guy was trying to see if rumors of werebears were actually substantiated which he never did, he couldn't even get anyone to really talk about lycanthropes except for one guy referencing the Silver-Hand. Even in the book On Lycanthropy from dagerfall which says werebears are the most common lycanthrope in skyrim the author failed to actually meet any. It is possible that werebears never actually existed and it was simply a legend people took to believe as fact.

I would say wolves, boars and vultures are the only lycanthropes we can truly confrim as existing.

The author of the book 'On Lycanthropy", Varnard Karessen, was correct on his accounts of the Werebeast that we know exist and if the pattern of DLC is kept then he was correct on Werebears as well. At this point I would say that he is a credible source and so I believe that the other Werebeast described in the book also exist. And in regards to your signiture, the author of Immortal blood was correct about the Vampires of Cyrodiil and I believe that the claims the book makes are verified even further by the confirmed existence of another of the book's subjects, Morvarth.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:55 pm

That could be said of all Werebeast. They are all rare, even the most widespread, Werewolves have been called very rare, many believe them to be myth and they probably all try to stay anonymous lest they attract those who know of their existence and wish them dead.



The author of the book 'On Lycanthropy", Varnard Karessen, was correct on his accounts of the Werebeast that we know exist and if the pattern of DLC is kept then he was correct on Werebears as well. At this point I would say that he is a credible source and so I believe that the other Werebeast described in the book also exist.
if you have read The elder scrolls novel, The infernal city, i can tell you as much as that the people of Black marsh talk about Werecrocodiles as something rather common, if you find that interesting of course :)
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:01 pm

if you have read The elder scrolls novel, The infernal city, i can tell you as much as that the people of Black marsh talk about Werecrocodiles as something rather common, if you find that interesting of course :smile:
I haven't read it's entirety but that bit of info is very interesting. It makes sense that this knowledge on the 'commoness' of Werecrocodiles is not more widely known considering the reserved and distrustful attitude of Argonians and the very nature of Black Marsh. I wouldn't be surprised if the Argonians hide and protect them as well as use them as allies considering their history of war and attempted conquerings and slavery. I cannot recall the source but Werebeast were considered a huge threat a few Eras ago and their numbers were obliterated in a crusade and over the years since they have been though myth or extinct. While the general populace thinks of Werebeast as myth, this info and the revelations in "The Lycanthropic Legends of Skyrim" regarding the rise of Werevultures suggest to me that the Werebeast population may be on the rise and out of obscurity. Or it could just be that due to the difficult environment and the nature both trusting to friends and suspicious of strangers of Argonians, the Werebeast in Skyrim were spared the worst of the crusade, of which we have even less. My theory. I guess we'll have to wait for another book/game/DLC(Werebear) for more info on this subject to make any solid conclusions.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:22 pm

Why does everyone get so hyped about all these "were" beasts? So cliche.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:55 am

Why does everyone get so hyped about all these "were" beasts? So cliche.
There's nothing "cliche" about werebears.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:28 pm

Why does everyone get so hyped about all these "were" beasts? So cliche.
Because they're part of lore and not many games let you play as them and in lore, TES has more werecreatures than just werewolves, and all I've ever seen in other media is werewolves.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:10 pm

After hearing rumors regarding were-bears coming in DLC I've been contemplating the pros of cons of them compared to wolves based on how we experience them through our general game-play in Skyrim.

Pros:

.Bears are bulkier and have more body fat compared to wolves to suit their climate meaning they are much more likely as players to be given a bonus resistance to frost.

.Higher body fat would also allow bears to hold more health than a wolf therefore bears are hardier creatures and can withstand more damage.

. (This is more personal speculation) Bears would be able to feed on any type of creature such as deer or cattle whereas wolves have just humanoid blood to feast upon. However feeding on these creatures rather than humanoids would not give as much health and stamina as normal races as these docile creatures are petty in meat and nutrients.

. With massive claws and a bonus to one-handed (alchemy knowledge of bear claws) bears would be able to deal more damage than wolves as their damage would scale with your own one handed skill rather than unarmed hits with wolves. This is more a stretched thought ill admit.

Cons:

. Larger body fat = slower movement. Not only in running speed but in combat also. If bears deal more damage - they would attack slower to balance. Thus bears would have a higher health to lower stamina ratio. Covering less distance and having to wait for stamina to regenerate more often.
Wolves can run extremely far extremely quickly as they have less fur and more muscle compared to bears.

. Snow bears have a weakness to fire(?) - so bonus resistance to frost perhaps might be balanced with fire weakness. Whereas wolves have neither bonus resistance or negative damage multipliers to any elements.

These are just my thoughts, feel free to say weather you would agree or dis-agree with any of them and give your own ideas as-well. Im not 100% about any of these, simply basing them on what would make sense with the developers and racial traits.

I agree with alot of this, not sure about the weakness to fire thing. but honestly I'd just love to have it be a werewolf reskin, and let it be visually.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:43 am

I agree, werewolves should be more like swift powerful assassins and werebears should be more like tanks.
I agree... Im not always one to charge in and gon on a rampage. Sneaking would be fun lol
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:33 pm

I really don't get why people would want werebears when we already have werewolves.

There's nothing unique enough about them to warrant the time and effort to make them seeing as how they would just be a werewolf reskin.

And plus I can't even imagine how dumb they would look i mean werewolfs look cool all standing upright and whatnot. All i see is the bear doing that standing attack thing and waddling around like that ugh.

Lore.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:07 pm

Werebears confirmed by mods hiding threads discussig the possibility of the being in dawnguard. Bethesda spoiled it.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:50 pm

Werebears confirmed by mods hiding threads discussig the possibility of the being in dawnguard. Bethesda spoiled it.
Its getting fisher than a fish market!! :thumbsup:
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:53 am

Werebears confirmed by mods hiding threads discussig the possibility of the being in dawnguard. Bethesda spoiled it.
If this thread gets deleted I'm blaming you :dry:
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