Werewolf: The Mists of Death - Day 7

Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:41 pm

Martin Westbrooke

It's not that I don't trust you, but I find it a little hard to believe that the angel would make himself so obvious to you...especially considering he himself couldn't even be sure that the person he's protecting is innocent. Is there any way you can tell us a little more specifically (removing anything that might indicate who the angel is) about how you found out his identity?

However, you still haven't answered my question; how do you know that Charles is the first angel? I'm not doubting you, but in case someone said something I missed, I don't remember him ever being outed.

By the way, I still suggest we search the Mission. It's the best lead we have to go on at this point.

Sam Rusk

The first two nights I had no clue who the angel was. On the third I opened my door and saw him. Charles has strongly hinted at being an angel right after Consuela was attacked.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:56 am

Sam Rusk

Though, it is possible that Charles is innocent and Black is the angel. I just found Charles's comments to be very suggestive. It's probably best we stick with Alexander tonight.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:20 pm

Sam Rusk

The first two nights I had no clue who the angel was. On the third I opened my door and saw him. Charles has strongly hinted at being an angel right after Consuela was attacked.
Martin Westbrooke

I'm sorry, but something just isn't right here. Here are the two things he said on the day that Consuela was attacked:
Sir Henry Chandler The III

Well, I guess your mexicano gods were watching over you tonight, Mi amigo. I say the wolves grow to large in number not to kill someone tonight, and while I intended on saying something yesterday, Jedediah seems like our most likely candidate.

I apologize if you turn up innocent friend, and If we all wind up dead I'll have a card game waiting for you in heaven, with no buy in.
Sir Henry Chandler The III

How do we know your truthfully a sneak? The questions can be shot back at you just as easily.

At least we know Consuela is innocent. I'm willing to trust her opinion over any of you other Gent's.. I'll also assist her with the search of the Flophouse.
I see nothing here that could be even remotely construed as him hinting toward being an angel, let alone anything that would lead me to believe (as strongly as you do) his identity.

Anyway, like I said before, both Ellington and Charles cannot be wolves. Ellington threw his vote at Charles almost immediately after you presented the case against him; with so much apathy in the past few days, I find it hard to believe that Ellington would try to throw Charles under the bus when the likelihood of him being executed tonight is slim-to-none.

Finally, why should we assume that the angel you saw on the 3rd night wasn't converted either later that night, or during the second conversion, and that's the one who (presumably) killed Consuela? That is, unless you happened to see him again on a later day...

Look, if I sound dubious of your account, it's probably because I am. We know that we can trust Consuela's information because she turned up as the Sneak, however you only claimed to have seen the angel outside of your room after Consuela mentioned that she'd seen the angel outside of her room, which again is likely as she was the Sneak. I hate to accuse you, however it isn't unlikely that you are a wolf. The way I see it, here are the possible scenarios.

1. You originally were an angel, and protected Consuela on numerous occasions (she saw you, and to re-enforce the idea that you were indeed innocent, you backed up her claim). She grew to trust you, however you were the second convert and killed her. If Ellington turns up a wolf tonight, this will be null. He was ready to lead a case against you (however poor it was). Like with Charles, he wouldn't be so selfish as to throw another of his kind under the bus.
2. You are an original. You live in the Flophouse, and you have a gun. These are the same pieces that we have on Ellington.

Regardless of the circumstances, I'm hardly ready to vote for you. However, some of the things you've said and done are just odd. The only way that either of these scenarios could be true is if Ellington turns up innocent. Until then, know that I mean no offense. I'm just exploring every possibility.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:44 pm

Martin Westbrooke

Gah, I'm sorry. I had confused Charles and Chandler in my previous argument. Please disregard the argument for Charles, and keep in mind that my defense is actually intended for Chandler.

Host, does there appear to be a blood trail leading to the bed where Consuela was found? If not, does it appear as if she was killed while still in bed?

Let's take another look at the crime scene.

1. Consuela was killed with one shot through the heart. This means that either the killer cared about her and wanted to make it as painless as possible, or was an extremely good shot with a revolver (or both).
2. Her clasped hands are again a sign that the killer cared about her, unless she slept that way (which I doubt). The blood trail will explain this for us. As it is, here are the people with some sort of firearm:

Chandler: Colt revolver
Clyde: Both a musket and revolver
Mike: A bunch of revolvers
Charles: Revolver
Ellington: Revolver
Rusk: Revolver

Charles also has a cross and a bible, which matches with the way Consuela was found murdered. Like Rusk said, he also did say a few odd pieces ("Looks like an angel is protecting us...I wonder who it is").

Chandler I find unlikely for reasons previously stated (see my argument where I defend Charles; I mistakenly was referring to Chandler's actions).

Mike is possible. He is meticulous and plans well, as well as avoids hurting those he cares about. This fits Consuela's murder.

Clyde is possible, however nothing stands out with him.

Ellington and Rusk: All points have already been touched on.

In spite of my prior thoughts, Black couldn't have been the one to kill Consuela. He doesn't have a gun, though he could still be a wolf.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:04 am

Martin Westbrooke

Since I've been thinking about this without confusing Chandler and Charles, I am inclined to agree with you Rusk about Charles' identity. Way back when we first arrived in town, though before this entire fiasco started, I though I remembered him saying something along the lines of how he was happy with who he was. Don't quote me on it, though if you want you can check way back to see if I'm mistaken.

However, I doubt that both Charles and Ellington are wolves. Ellington wouldn't have been so quick to vote for Charles earlier today if they were both on the same side. It's possible that Charles is the original gun-wolf, rather than an angel convert (his statements could have gone either way), and that Ellington is innocent.

What are the vote counts needed for a double today? Is it still 4-4 or is it now 3-3?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:39 am

OOC: I think it is is 50% of the people must vote. That would make it 3 vs 3.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:35 am

Martin Westbrooke

I'm changing my vote to Charles. I know it's last minute and may incriminate me if this fails, however Charles just fits the bill too well. He has a revolver that could have been used to kill Consuela, and is cunning (so the shot would have been accurate). He is religious which would explain the cross, but does have a kind heart which would explain why Consuela was found the way she was.

He fits the bill for either an angel-convert or original Flophouse shooter. The odds of him being the wolf are greater than those of Ellington. I'd advise against a double so that we can at least avoid killing one innocent by bad luck.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:38 am

Sam Rusk

I agree. A double would get us two wolves and one step closer to finishing all this.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:11 am

Sam Rusk

I agree. A double would get us two wolves and one step closer to finishing all this.
Martin Westbrooke

They are NOT both wolves. Ellington wouldn't have been so quick to vote for Charles earlier today if they were both wolves.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:53 am

OOC: Vote Tallies

Undead Fiend:

wolf bite
Drop_Dead
Indicator

TNNWAS:

Undead Fiend
Suffca
Xrayman

Vineyard:

Undead Fiend
wolf bite

Mission:

Xrayman



Right now its a double.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:38 am

Martin Westbrooke

I withdraw my vote. Something's wrong.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:33 pm

OOC: Day Over

EDIT: Just in time, Xrayman. Only Undead Fiend is executed.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:07 pm

Sam Rusk

Sorts through Chandler's scattered cards and picks up the ace of spades. Actually, neither of them are wolves.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:12 am

Martin Westbrooke

Before you all angrily come at me, I wanted to let you know why I did what I did. Rusk fits the bill as well as Charles, and never answered my questions. The likelihood of Charles being an angel is high, however I don't think he was converted. My belief is that Rusk is the convert, while Ellington may still be an original vote. If you want to kill me tomorrow for what I've done, so be it. But I couldn't let this go as it was.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:03 pm

Martin Westbrooke

I hope you enjoy looking up from the long end of a noose tomorrow, Rusk.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:50 am

Sam Rusk

Martin I believe that you are mistaken. You see, the noose, a rather beautiful invention, is used in the execution of those that have been convicted of heinous acts. Take note of the word "convicted." It is a word used to describe a person that has been deemed guilty, whether it be rightfully or wrongly, by a jury of their peers. What acts have I been convicted of? The answer: none. What jury will I face? My only witness is God... and he does not show up to court very often.The greatest secret of war is that to the victor there are no war crimes.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:26 am

Frank Dawson
Aces is a wolf.
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