OK... So I go to Sanctury's campfire to make some Veg Starch for adhesive and I see that I have 157 units of Purified Water. Great I think... I will sell some of those for caps.

So I go to the workshop and not only is there NO WATER, there are only a few crops as well.

So how come the campfire can see the crops an water but the workshop can't ? Does this have something to do with the supply lines system sharing stuff. If so then why does campfire still see the things and let me use them to make adhesive yet I can't actually grab them from the workshop.

I'm confused!!!

Are they destroyed?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but the way I think it works is below:

You can access materials through any connected (via supply lines) workshops while crafting but to withdraw inventory you have to actually be where it is stored.

So if your mutfruit, tato, corn farm is at one settlement and your purified water operation is at another you will be able to craft from any connected cooking station but to withdraw materials from your workshop you have to be at the location they are generated.

Thing is, the stuff is being produced at Sanctuary... but I have no idea where the provisioners have moved the stuff to lol. The settlement system is REALLY confusing in this regard.

They don't move it, they make it share with other settlements. It will all be at Sanctuary.

But it's not in the workstation at Sanctuary... yet the campfire at Sanctuary says there are 157 units of purified water available... but it just isn't there.

What is missing from this game is a screen of all provisions moved and the individual provisioners who could be recalled from their routes. Say you don't want the Sanctuary to Castle run done anymore... how do you cancel it presently?

EDIT: I've just realised something. When you run a supply line you get all the building material shared. You can use it right away. But the food and water may be available to the campfire but it is not available to remove from the system. Is it a bug? A design flaw?

Something is definitely wrong here.

By waiting for the guy and unassigning him. Yes it's a system that needs work, but I get all of my water. Is the water in your inventory?

To your edit: that's how it's meant to be, I think.

Problem is... how do you know it is him? What if you, like me, have multiple provisioners going to hubs. I use 4 centers to link to all the rest you see. You just don't know. It's impossible.

As I said, it's a system that needs work. Give them armor or weapons that are named after where they go.

Also you could try going to the individual places instead of your hubs?

No, it isn't confusing at all. It makes perfect sense. The supplies are provided on an "as needed" basis by the SUPPLY LINE (hence the name "supply line"). Supply line has nothing to do with inventory nor does a supply line mean that inventory space is shared in any way. It means that if a need exists in a settlement (i.e., due to settlers needing food or water because of a shortage at that settlement or due to you crafting something where the needed components are not all available at that settlement) the Provisioner will supply the necessary materials from other settlements along the supply chain. The supplies are not in inventory because they never were in inventory at that settlement.

Workshop inventory is just that - inventory, not supplies total throughout your settlements. Supply lines are just that - supply lines for needed resources throughout your settlements.

The reason that a workstation (NOT Workshop, mind you) shows that more resources are available for crafting (whatever you are crafting) is because the are... via your supply lines. The only time the Workshop shows that is if you are (once again) attempting to craft something in the settlement via the Workshop interface (e.g., buildings, defenses, etc.). Inventory is not supplies, nor should it be. In the real world, City A does not need to have all of every resource it needs for creating various things or supplying daily needs of its population because it is connected via trade to other cities that provide what it does not have. Same concept.

Actually... you have it wrong. Up until I got more settlements I was finding the water and crops appearing in the workshop AID inventory page... I was even taking them and using them to plant at other settlements before I realised I didn't need to do it that way. I can plant those food items at any linked base... but I cannot take them out of inventory. It just makes no sense. If I can plant them then why can't I just withdraw them. MAKES. NO. SENSE.

I set up a supply line so Red Rocket could get some food and water from Sanctuary. But its not showing up in Red Rocket's HUD. I know Sanctuary has plenty to spare. I don't see what Im doing wrong.

You need a settler assigned to crops to make them work and you need 2 per person in the settlement.

Yep I have one settlement that produces a ton of extra food, yet if any of my other settlements produce less food then people they start to complain they are hungry. Shouldn't surplus food from one settlement be moved to the others that need it if you have supply lines running everywhere?

The settlement system really needs some serious work in every aspect. They need a management I/F so you can assign worker's and jobs without having to track down each individual settler. Settlement construction is VERY crude and needs to be reworked. How supply lines are setup and how they work need to be refined.

This is how I understand it to work:

Settlement A has 6 water in it

Settlement B has 4 water in it

Settlement A & B have a supply line linking them

If your at a station or in workshop mode the supply line is sharing resources, so it will list there are 10 waters that can be used.

If you go to the workstation to withdraw your water you will see

Settlement A has 6 water in it

Settlement B has 4 water in it.

Think of it like ordering something online. I go to the Walmart website and see they have a product and it says they have 20 in stock to order online. However if I go to the local Walmart they might not have any.

To clarify the other point that was brought up. Supply lines do not share resources for your settlers to consume (Food/Water) . Food and water must be produced locally for the settlers that live there. Supply lines only share resources for YOU, and only when your building/crafting.

I'm not saying that either of these systems make perfect sense, or that's how they should be. I'm just stating how I've seen that they work.

Then that's going to make it difficult to make some settlements happy. Take Hangman's Alley for example. There's barely any room for planting besides a couple crops if you also want to build a structure for your settlers to live in. Not unless there's some box planters Im not seeing in the menu. You know, like in the greenhouse at Graygarden. Food and water needs to be shared between settlements, not just building materials.

Sometimes I look on the HUD and it shows all of my settlements having robust stats, except almost all zeros across the board at Sanctuary with like 10 happiness. Then I fast travel to sanctuary and everything is normal. I'm assuming this is a glitch? This only happens with the sanctuary settlement and I've probably noticed this half a dozen times, at least.

My Hangman's Alley has about 20 settlers and is quite happy. Over 20 food and water. My housing is on stilts, with a lot planted below. Usual plan: 9 squares housing, three level.

Two large generators on top, with heavy lasers at the corners. Works for me. As I recall, some of the structure at Hangman is scrapable.

Side note: With corner pylons for the lasers, I can have lights on every floor.

I don't have local leader or any supply lines. I built a water plant with 186 water but cannot take it out or access it to sell for profit. I built another scavenging station to maybe have them move it from the purifiers but they don't. How do you access this water and is anyone able to actually get it out rather han just use it for cooking?

I often withdraw 10 purified water from the workbench "for the road".

I used to as well. Now they appear in the cookfire's usage menu so that when I press the (A) to make stuff (on Xbox One) I can actually make Vegetable Starch no problem... but when I press (X) to transfer some of those items out... THEY ARE NOT THERE (not getting mad at you mm200... just mad at the game not behaving right).

At Sanctuary I have THREE Industrial water purifiers plus a normal sized one chugging away merrily. All have plenty of power. But there is no water to be had according to the workbench. I can use the water to use in the cooking fire but I can no longer withdraw it. It's just INVISIBLE. Hey, perhaps I have invented stealth crops and water so the raiders can't steal them hehe. If it confuses them as much as this is confusing me then it can't be all bad.

This is what I mean.... All this water...

https://t.co/w8vrsgbSsj

... and without using any of it I go to withdraw that water from the workshop (via the campfire)...

https://t.co/V8XziE1jiT

... SEE?.... (or not see). Where has it gone? I can use it but not withdraw it (for use when I go on patrol).

Jesus...really?

Go to your workstation and check it's inventrory...the water isn't stored in the cooking station cO

Do settlers consume food and water?

EDIT: I don't need to know the answer. Embarrassingly, I don't even know if my question is relevant. So, if my question is dumb, please just ignore it. Thanks.

Lol I'm sure they do. Otherwise you wouldn't need it to make them happy. It does not show it in the settlement HUD being consumed, but it doesn't need to. I've witnessed the settlers constantly eating noodles, so much so I made a joke about them probably being Chinese. Lol Bet they love the noodle shop in Diamond City too.