Who are we kidding this is gonna be awesome!

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:33 pm

You are right for the most part. My objection was that the only thing in the article that says it is WOW like is that you will have a hotbar. There are several games on the market that require you to actively swing your weapon (no auto attack) and still have hotbars for special skills.

Not quite. There's a lot of hinting, issue skirting and misdirection going on in that article. One pattern I noticed is that the author will start a sentence saying that the game will or has to stick to "standard" or "typical" MMO mechanics, interrupt himself with a "but it will also appeal to Elder Scrolls fans by" and then finish by rattling off a standard fantasy trope that TES games happen to share. The article also specifically refers to "World of Warcraft-style mechanics" when talking about the game as a whole. If the article was meant to make us think the game departs from WoW in any significant way, then it was very poorly written. Instead the whole thing feels to me like a used car salesman trying to tell you how great the stereo is in an attempt to keep you from peeking under the hood.

You are right about this quote, but you left out other quotes that were just as important, imo. For instance the one about a lack of quest hubs and being able to explore the world and do what seems interesting to you. Like clearing the undead from a barrow and having a shade reward you for putting him to rest. You didn't pick that quest up and go to an X on your map - you just found it and did what came naturally and were rewarded with loot and xp.


Please see my point above - that's what I meant by dynamic or organic - events happen naturally not because you clicked on a guy with a giant glowing exclamation point over his head.

The funny thing is that the whole point of quest hubs is one of convenience. MMO players(of the WoW-style) tend to go for all the quests in an area at once in order maximize efficiency, so spreading out the "quests" is sort of counterproductive if you want to attract the typical MMO crowd. Besides, does it really matter if you got the quest to gather 20 bear hooves in town or at the cave the bears live in? You're still going to have collect those bear hooves either way.


I understand your concern, but I urge you to be a bit more patient - wait until you see the game in action before you decide it won't be for you. I think many, many of the people on these forums who are upset are going to be pleasantly suprised if they just give it a chance.

Unfortunately, most people that have seen the rise and fall of enough MMOs since WoW have this sense of pattern recognition. Sometimes a property is big enough that a gamer can put blinders on until they end up paying for a game that they quit shortly after launch, but many of us have only just recently been burned that way by SWTOR, and right now TES:O is throwing out all the wrong signals. That could be the fault of a badly written article, so I guess we'll see if things change when more info gets released. Not a good first impression, though.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:26 pm

Unfortunately, most people that have seen the rise and fall of enough MMOs since WoW have this sense of pattern recognition. Sometimes a property is big enough that a gamer can put blinders on until they end up paying for a game that they quit shortly after launch, but many of us have only just recently been burned that way by SWTOR, and right now TES:O is throwing out all the wrong signals. That could be the fault of a badly written article, so I guess we'll see if things change when more info gets released. Not a good first impression, though.

I, too, am irritated by how many times the author of the article mentions WoW. In my optimistic mind, knowing what I do about Matt Firor and his history with DAOC, I think it is just the fault of a magazine writer thinking, "WoW is big. Everyone knows WoW, I'll do a lot of comparisons to that."

I hope I'm right, but we really won't know until we see some interviews, and some footage.

Cheers.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:28 pm

The bottom line is that we can't judge the game. It isn't even in beta. Good Lord.

Until real players can sit down and play the game, we have no room to say it'll be good or bad.

We don't want it in beta lol, we want the traditional elder scrolls series to continue. gamesas hasn't really said anything about the continuation of the series; just to note if your going to develop a huge online game. It's going to take massive man power to make, thus takeing away from skyrim patches and any expansions for the game.

If you live and breathe somewhere on earth; you have to be haveing some kind of financial situation, even if your rich it's just a task to keep it that way. With that said no one's going to want to pay monthly for this crap that's why these games are free AION, Star trek, lineage, DC universe, guild wars and i'm sure eve will be hit next.

This game can't be free because with all the man power and waste going into the game the investors wont let it be free, so time being spent on this game could of been time spent on somthing like TES VI. So to me this is the worst news possible, so it looks like the only good news this year seems to be ARMA 3 and 12/20/2012 so i wont have to see this game fail.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:14 pm

We don't want it in beta lol, we want the traditional elder scrolls series to continue. gamesas hasn't really said anything about the continuation of the series; just to note if your going to develop a huge online game. It's going to take massive man power to make, thus takeing away from skyrim patches and any expansions for the game.

If you live and breathe somewhere on earth; you have to be haveing some kind of financial situation, even if your rich it's just a task to keep it that way. With that said no one's going to want to pay monthly for this crap that's why these games are free AION, Star trek, lineage, DC universe, guild wars and i'm sure eve will be hit next.

This game can't be free because with all the man power and waste going into the game the investors wont let it be free, so time being spent on this game could of been time spent on somthing like TES VI. So to me this is the worst news possible, so it looks like the only good news this year seems to be ARMA 3 and 12/20/2012 so i wont have to see this game fail.

Pete Hines already confirmed the making of the MMO will not affect current or future development of SP ES games.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:31 pm

We don't want it in beta lol, we want the traditional elder scrolls series to continue. gamesas hasn't really said anything about the continuation of the series; just to note if your going to develop a huge online game. It's going to take massive man power to make, thus takeing away from skyrim patches and any expansions for the game.
When will this uninformed ... No, actually, at this point, it's just lying. When will it stop.

The MMO does not take away any manpower from BGS, it is developed by a different studio. The MMO has been in development since 2007, even longer than Skyrim. Skyrim's development was obviously unaffected by this.

Also, Pete Hines confirmed on twitter that this MMO will not affect BGS' work in any way.
https://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/status/198430022162317312

The Elder Scrolls will continue just fine.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:25 pm

Pete Hines already confirmed the making of the MMO will not affect current or future development of SP ES games.

I saw a unicorn yesterday while driving on the freeway!! Do you believe me?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:38 am

I saw a unicorn yesterday while driving on the freeway!! Do you believe me?

Also, Pete Hines confirmed on twitter that this MMO will not affect BGS' work in any way.
https://twitter.com/#%21/DCDeacon/status/198430022162317312

As Faulgor linked, no impact.


Zenimax online was made so it wouldn't affect Bethesda Game Studios
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:34 pm

As Faulgor linked, no impact.


Zenimax online was made so it wouldn't affect Bethesda Game Studios

We shall see, but i'm betting the past will repeat it's self one way or another.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:10 pm

I am extremely excited for this! I havent had a game to look forward to in a long time. I feel like I am 12 years old and waiting for the N64 to come out!
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:23 pm

Me too :smile:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:11 am

1. People said that about Aion, Warhammer, etc

2. Because Zenimax is herding you like a cow with the promise of anything related to the Elder Scrolls


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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:16 pm

I'm interested, but I'm not much into MMOs anymore, though if this is great then I just might get svcked back in.
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