Who would wait ten years for Diablo 3?

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:34 pm

This has probably been bashed about before- my apologies. What is going on with Diablo 3? I mean, who takes 10 years to make a hack n slash? I don't understand- operating systems have changed several times over in that span....I see now preorder is available, so it is coming. Will anyone care when it arrives? I went to the site and read some bit about how they have to make it the best game ever, because it's Diablo, and that's why it's taken so long...does anyone believe that? A ten year labor of love?

I'm still annoyed because I have to send them 10 bucks to play the Diablo 2 add on- I lost my black envelope key and thought it recorded elsewhere when it was not. Can't have people stealing Diablo 2 you know.....

Is this a bad cheech and chong bit? Where have they been? Are they smoking? Was there a distubance in time? Diablo was ground breaking, I remember. I'm afraid Diablo three is going to be exactly that- another version of Diablo 2. The world has moved on. Yes, I might buy it. Doom, Heretic, Diablo....the chain.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:47 pm

Amazon has it slated it for March 31st of this year. This pretty much means that they don't know. I know Blizzard has to deliver the second installment of Starcraft 2 as well as another World of WarCraft expansion and it seems impossible that they would release 3 games in one year. It just doesn't seem like the Blizzard thing to do. :shrug:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:48 pm

And Hey it's not like the development team had it's hands full with WoW and it's 4 expansions and warcraft 3 and Starcraft 2 and it's expansions.

I'm pretty sure they decided there would be a D3 the moment D2 went on sale. But they only started development a few years ago.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:41 am

This is going the way of Duke Nukem.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:22 am

They've waited too long for me. Had D3 been released years ago I might have still cared. Same with SC2, I played a demo then realized that the genre has moved on since the 90s and there are much better RTS out there.

5 or 6 years ago I would have bought anything by Blizzard in a second, now it just feels like "been there, done that"
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:15 pm

Get that WoW taint out of my face. ; ;
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:27 am

lol, is it your first Blizzard franchise or something? Blizzard doesn't crank out games like they're CoD. They generally do have a fairly long development time, but they certainly haven't been actually working on Diablo III since the release of Diablo 2. They tend to be of the mindset that releasing a mind-blowingly great game late is better than releasing a pretty good game on time.

There was no rush because Diablo 2 is *still* a good, playable game. There are many, many people who still play D2, and as old as it is, it has stood the test of time far better than most games.

It was 12 years between the release of Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2, and 7 years between Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. They don't make a game then hop directly into making the sequel. They release one when it's been long enough to really feel like a new game in the series adds value. Just like how Starcraft 1 was still doing fine when SC2 game out, so is Diablo 2.

Anyway, you seem to be somewhat of an entitled brat.


there are much better RTS out there.

Than SC2? Not really. Arguably, SC:BW is a better RTS, but that's about it.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:08 pm

They should really spend their time on WoW so they don't lose more of their subs.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:49 am

It was 12 years between the release of Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2, and 7 years between Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. They don't make a game then hop directly into making the sequel. They release one when it's been long enough to really feel like a new game in the series adds value. Just like how Starcraft 1 was still doing fine when SC2 game out, so is Diablo 2.

The gaming market moves fast. And Warcraft and Starcraft were/are both revolutionary in their gameplay. Diablo has been the same. From the looks of it, though, Diablo 3 will be a mediocre, derivative disappointment, and what Blizzard is really focusing on revolutionising with this title is how they're going to make money off of it.

Anyway, you seem to be somewhat of an entitled brat.

There's no need for that.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:42 pm

They don't use the same team for both WoW and Diablo development.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:34 pm

They don't use the same team for both WoW and Diablo development.

But they sure as hell trade secrets.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:36 am

It hasn't taken them so long. They would have been working on other stuff. At most, the Diablo guys have been working on D3 since after Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne was released.

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Development on Diablo III began in 2001 when http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_North was still in operation. The original artistic design differed from that shown at Blizzard Worldwide Invitational 2008 demonstration, and had undergone three revisions before reaching the standards felt necessary by the team behind Diablo III.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] The game is being planned for a simultaneous release on both http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_%28operating_system%29 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X platforms.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_III#cite_note-blizz_press-4 It was also revealed that the game would require a constant internet connection to play, even for single-player mode.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_III#cite_note-39

Thats from wikipedia
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:56 am



Than SC2? Not really. Arguably, SC:BW is a better RTS, but that's about it.

Dawn of War/Dawn of War 2 and Total War. Each have much more interesting mechanics than SC. Granted I really didn't expect SC2 to do anything drastically different that SC, but I was disappointed at how little had changed.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:33 am

Dawn of War/Dawn of War 2 and Total War. Each have much more interesting mechanics than SC. Granted I really didn't expect SC2 to do anything drastically different that SC, but I was disappointed at how little had changed.
DoW is basically a campaign RTS. SC2 is designed to be a balanced, competitive multiplayer game, and that's exactly what it is unmatched at being (again, other than by SC:BW). An enormous amount has changed from BW (unfortunately, a lot of it isn't good), although the rock solid mechanics are still there. The TW series is basically an entirely different genre, really more real-time-tactical.

The Starcraft community probably would have rioted if SC2 had used the basic mechanics of either DoW or, even worse, a TW game. If you like squad-based RTS games that don't require much unit control or base-management, then play them, but acting like it's somehow a "more evolved" form of RTS than the classic style in SC2 is ridiculous.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:02 pm

Than SC2? Not really. Arguably, SC:BW is a better RTS, but that's about it.
Rise of Nations and everything made by Ensemble Studios, minus Halo Wars. Starcraft is a great series though.
Dawn of War/Dawn of War 2 and Total War. Each have much more interesting mechanics than SC. Granted I really didn't expect SC2 to do anything drastically different that SC, but I was disappointed at how little had changed.
I personally wouldn't consider Dawn of War 1/2 RTS games.

OP: Who would wait for Diablo 3? How about some people who played and loved Diablo 1 and 2.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:22 am

Than SC2? Not really. Arguably, SC:BW is a better RTS, but that's about it.
Command and Conquer.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:34 pm

i'll never buy it
1-online/single player game
2-real money AH
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:58 pm

i'll never buy it
1-online/single player game
2-real money AH

I'm not trying to be an ass, why is the "allways online" such a big thing?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:52 pm

Rise of Nations and everything made by Ensemble Studios, minus Halo Wars. Starcraft is a great series though.

None of these have what makes Starcraft incredible. An extremely high level of balance while having very different races/factions. The differences between Protoss, Zerg, and Terran are what makes it an interesting game. Many other games have very different factions, but none of them have anything resembling the balance of SC2. I can see how they would be more appealing than SC2 to someone who wasn't interested in highly competitive multiplayer though.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:08 am

I'm not trying to be an ass, why is the "allways online" such a big thing?
-you need good internet connection to get low latency(less lag) since most of the game's data will be on Blizzard servers , better connection mean i'll have to pay more money .
-if you ever disconnected you will lose your progress .
-servers maintenance ... why i have to wait for servers maintenance to play Single player game ...
-you can't pause your game ..
-you can't save anywhere and exit , you will have to run to the check point
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:21 am

None of these have what makes Starcraft incredible. An extremely high level of balance while having very different races/factions. The differences between Protoss, Zerg, and Terran are what makes it an interesting game. Many other games have very different factions, but none of them have anything resembling the balance of SC2. I can see how they would be more appealing than SC2 to someone who wasn't interested in highly competitive multiplayer though.
It's true that none of the games I mentioned have what make Starcraft incredible to you, but Starcraft also doesn't have any of the things what make them incredible to me. I love the major differences between the Terrans and the Zerg, but I also love the subtle differences between the Bantu and the Germans in Rise of Nations. I guess it all really comes down to whether or not you prefer competitive multiplayer or singleplayer in RTS games. I personally prefer singleplayer and I think this is where the games I mentioned truly shine. Its a lot more difficult to rush your enemy in Rise of Nations then it is in Starcraft.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:57 pm

-you need good internet connection to get low latency(less lag) since most of the game's data will be on Blizzard servers , better connection mean i'll have to pay more money .
-if you ever disconnected you will lose your progress .
-servers maintenance ... why i have to wait for servers maintenance to play Single player game ...
-you can't pause your game ..
-you can't save anywhere and exit , you will have to run to the check point

Yep.

Considering that I played D2 for years, 98% offline and single player (and frequently with conversion mods that gave different playstyles/skilltrees/loot/etc), the whole "always online/on B.net; no mods; single player is just multiplayer without anyone else in the server" thing is disappointing. And I can't stand games with no pause.... some of us have lives that interrupt our gameplay at random & varying intervals. Getting to die (and take whatever losses) because the cat's puking or the doorbell/phone rang... meh.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:07 pm

-you need good internet connection to get low latency(less lag) since most of the game's data will be on Blizzard servers , better connection mean i'll have to pay more money .
-if you ever disconnected you will lose your progress .
-servers maintenance ... why i have to wait for servers maintenance to play Single player game ...
-you can't pause your game ..
-you can't save anywhere and exit , you will have to run to the check point
Some of these have nothing to do with the always-online (like can't pause, and can't save anywhere), and the necessity of a better connection for singleplayer to not lag is just plain false. I still don't like it at all, but at least make valid arguments.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:54 pm

lol, is it your first Blizzard franchise or something? Blizzard doesn't crank out games like they're CoD. They generally do have a fairly long development time, but they certainly haven't been actually working on Diablo III since the release of Diablo 2. They tend to be of the mindset that releasing a mind-blowingly great game late is better than releasing a pretty good game on time.

There was no rush because Diablo 2 is *still* a good, playable game. There are many, many people who still play D2, and as old as it is, it has stood the test of time far better than most games.

It was 12 years between the release of Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2, and 7 years between Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3. They don't make a game then hop directly into making the sequel. They release one when it's been long enough to really feel like a new game in the series adds value. Just like how Starcraft 1 was still doing fine when SC2 game out, so is Diablo 2.

Anyway, you seem to be somewhat of an entitled brat.




Than SC2? Not really. Arguably, SC:BW is a better RTS, but that's about it.

Name calling, nice.

I've no interest in Diablo 3 at this point, I just don't feel like it will bring much to the table, all the time they must have spent fooling with the engine over the past decade. Duke Nukem Forever syndrome.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:14 pm

you cannot rush perfection.
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