Why is Bethesda so secrative?

Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:28 am

As far as I remember, microsoft bought exclusivity for the first 2 DLC's. I have no sources to back to me up though so don't take my word for it.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:55 am

As far as I remember, microsoft bought exclusivity for the first 2 DLC's. I have no sources to back to me up though so don't take my word for it.

There's whole threads dedicated to arguing over that. They didn't technically say that. They said the first two are exclusive but they didnt say only two, so it is possible this one or others may be one month exclusives as well.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:59 am

There's whole threads dedicated to arguing over that. They didn't technically say that. They said the first two are exclusive but they didnt say only two, so it is possible this one or others may be one month exclusives as well.

The official Xbox magazine, which I'm fairly certain would be in the know regarding this sort of thing, also reported 2 DLC. So arguing semantics is kind of stupid.

One thing I've noticed, when Bethesda-published DLC are exclusive, they usually have the 360 logo at the end of the trailer. Dragonborn didn't have it, but Dawnguard and Hearthfire both did. When New Vegas had its DLC come out, Dead Money, which was exclusive, had the 360 logo. Honest Hearts debuted on Steam the same time as LIVE, and it didn't.

Another thing to consider, is that all of the confirmed exclusive DLC were identified as such in press releases- no such announcement has been made for Dragonborn.

So if past experience is anything to go by, it's probably not exclusive. It is strange they didn't mention a release date for PC, but they have said they're working on it. So it could be the PC version simply isn't ready yet, or it could be any number of other reasons.

There's no reason to jump straight onto the exclusive bandwagon when there's no real proof.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:19 am

It is stupid to say that it is in no way possible. The fact that there's a release date for xbox live, but nothing else is not proof, but it is a clue to the possibility. And the magazine did not say only the first two, did it? They probably did not work out another deal at the time, and had no clue if the other dlc would be exclusives too. So shutting down other very valid possibilities when there are clues hintingtothe possibility to back it is stupid. Not the other way around. I'm open to me being wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if I was right.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:04 am

Microsoft bought the exlusivity deal, so deal with it. People think raging their balls off is going to get the exlusivity deal to stop, but it doesnt. If you are planning on going the whole way with skyrim, stop moaning because honestly, its annoying. Just wait the 30 days and be patient. Since the ps3 have nothing yet, they might as well shut up and be patient until it happens. If you cant be patient, then give skyrim up. Give it up until an announcement. Its very fixable to stop feeling angry if you choose to or not.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:50 pm

https://twitter.com/BGS_Devs/status/266310658306473985

Timed exclusive in their politically correct way of saying it...
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:46 am

Lets give them a bit of credit though. They have been WAY MORE vocal with Skyrim than Oblivion. Half the people that work at BGS that have posted here I never even knew existed when Oblivion came out.
Legal reasons: break them and you have to take responsibility. Microsoft would be more than happy to take this to court and squeeze money from them just as a warning. And Beth would still be forced to cooperate with them in future due to the need to release their games on their platforms.
Doesn't matter if the rest of world knows something, legal rules must not be broken else there will be consequences. Thats simply business.

Being secretive... as long as it ain't official announcement and it is all pure hints it ain't breaking legal rules. In other words, using patches to announce DLC's (that was intentional for both DG and DB) is not a legal announcement so no legal rules are broken :wink:

Professionalism is not being kind and friendly. Professionalism is surviving in these legal Game of Thrones.

Not exactly but this is the case for some companies. Beth though is doing what a lot of Developers do. This is nothing new. They are competitors too, and they don't need their competition knowing what their plans are before they are even released.

Although I don't like how cold and stoic they sound most of the time when they do announce something, especially when Pete Hines says there are no plans for whatever - he sounds so irritated and conclusive "YALL NOT GETTING NUFFIN. TES IS DONE".
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:14 pm

When the Thalmor send their agents after you, you'll be secretive too.

^ LOL ^
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:01 am

From what I understand as well, it's only just going Beta. Anyone that's been around for any time will know gamers don't know the difference between "might be in the finished product" and "will be in the finished product" and of course, when inevitably it gets cut for development reasons, there's a [censored] storm amongst fans. That said, it does not excuse the lack of information on the PC and PS3 platforms regarding the DLC release. Bethesda should have saved themselves a lot of bad press and just released the information for all platforms at the same time.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:00 am

I would personally prefer to know next to nothing about a game, DLC or patch from a developer or publisher I respect instead of relying on them to constantly engage with the community and water down their games by listening too much. I wouldn't buy music from a musical artist whose direction came from his or her fans so why would I want to buy a game from someone who only makes games to satisfy the most vocal of fans? You know the community that nudges a developer towards changing their games is only a small portion of the total fan base. I appreciate the fact that Bethesda appears to do their own thing instead of just listening to the critics who love to rage at every little thing they think is wrong. I am pretty confident that Bethesda is working towards resolving issues with Skyrim, releasing more content, as well as preparing future gen products. That's my guess, but I don't expect them to communicate this externally.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:50 pm

TES will never ever be xbox exclusive. The only reason it appears that xbox is favored is because of the exclusivity contract. TES games are developed on, and for PCs, period. Morrowind and Oblivion continue to be played because of the modding community and that will always be a staple of TES games and thats simply the end of it.

As for Dragonborn, i concur with a post i saw on a different thread, I think they have to be vague until 11/11/12, when the contract is officially over. It would make sense, and it would also imply that they are trying their best to duck out of another 30 day exclusive DLC. NDAs are a pain in the butt and I am certain beth devs are itching to reassure us about the availability of Dragonborn on PC and PS3 but cant for bizarre legal reasons.

anyways I am content to be patient and continue to have faith in bethesda looking our for their players.
Heck, we get freaking Telvanni towers in Skyrim, if I have to wait a bit longer than the xboxers so I can go and mod my own telvanni tower home, so be it. in the end, PC users always win with TES stuff simply due to mods.
Console players, they are absolutely focused on the DLC stuff because in the end its all they get, and I dont begrudge xboxers early access, because I get to go and make mods while I wait for Dragonborn to get released. PS3 users got the shortest end of the stick which stinks, and I feel for them.

anyways, i am certain everybody will be happy with the outcome in the end. Bethesda isnt a company to leave loose threads dangling for too long in my experience.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:35 pm

especially when Pete Hines says there are no plans for whatever - he sounds so irritated and conclusive "YALL NOT GETTING NUFFIN. TES IS DONE".

Part of that could be because of the nature of Twitter- you only get so much room to get your message across, but I agree that his responses to the community do often seem a bit abrupt (and often outright false- every time he's said there are no plans for something, it's ended up wrong- Dawnguard on Steam, and werewolves in the vanilla game, just to name a few).
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:50 am

TES will never ever be xbox exclusive. The only reason it appears that xbox is favored is because of the exclusivity contract. TES games are developed on, and for PCs, period. Morrowind and Oblivion continue to be played because of the modding community and that will always be a staple of TES games and thats simply the end of it.

That entirely depends upon continued modding support. Let's assume TES VI is another Xbox port and Bethesda remove their modding support, it will not sell on the PC and if it doesn't sell on the PC, Zenimax won't sanction TES VII's development on that platform. The quality of the product has to improve and the modding support has to remain for the PC audience to continue to pay for this.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:50 am

bethesda softworks is ran by the pentagon secretly, to brainwash us with their brilliant games. so, they can do as they please.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:36 am

bethesda softworks is ran by the pentagon secretly, to brainwash us with their brilliant games. so, they can do as they please.

I would be ok with this!
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:18 pm

Why hide whether this is a timed exclusive or not?
Probably because this likely isn't a timed exclusive. It's only been confirmed that it will release for 360 first, and AFAIK, they have not said that it will be exclusive for 30 days. The trailer did not end with the 360 splash like the previous two, which were under the exclusivity deal. This is probably the best answer for now until we know more.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:45 am

quite honestly PS3 has a lot of legal issues going on right now and basically Xbox is just the better quality system overall if you really want a good quality system then switch to xbox OR you can wait till the legal issues with PS3 are settled which could be hmm 20 years from now?

and as far as the secrecy goes what do you expect from what is probably the BEST gaming company/studio currently on the market? and no I'm not brown nosing them, most other gaming studios are having serious lack of quality and financial issues right now
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:17 am

Yeah i know. If theres anything i don't like about Bethesda it's this that they do. They make it seem like .. Skyrim is a ultimate game of all time so they have be very very careful not to say anything.

Just say it already !! IS IT OR NOT !! I am not going to get mad anyways if you say no DLC for PS3.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:03 pm

Yeah i know. If theres anything i don't like about Bethesda it's this that they do. They make it seem like .. Skyrim is a ultimate game of all time so they have be very very careful not to say anything.

Just say it already !! IS IT OR NOT !!

But Skyrim it is indeed the GAME OF ALL TIME!!!
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:12 pm

The official Xbox magazine, which I'm fairly certain would be in the know regarding this sort of thing, also reported 2 DLC. So arguing semantics is kind of stupid.

One thing I've noticed, when Bethesda-published DLC are exclusive, they usually have the 360 logo at the end of the trailer. Dragonborn didn't have it, but Dawnguard and Hearthfire both did. When New Vegas had its DLC come out, Dead Money, which was exclusive, had the 360 logo. Honest Hearts debuted on Steam the same time as LIVE, and it didn't.

Another thing to consider, is that all of the confirmed exclusive DLC were identified as such in press releases- no such announcement has been made for Dragonborn.

So if past experience is anything to go by, it's probably not exclusive. It is strange they didn't mention a release date for PC, but they have said they're working on it. So it could be the PC version simply isn't ready yet, or it could be any number of other reasons.

There's no reason to jump straight onto the exclusive bandwagon when there's no real proof.

It has been suggested that Bethesda has got a contract with Microsoft that states that they may only promote the DLC for the Xbox 360.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:28 am

Microsoft bought the exlusivity deal, so deal with it. People think raging their balls off is going to get the exlusivity deal to stop, but it doesnt. If you are planning on going the whole way with skyrim, stop moaning because honestly, its annoying. Just wait the 30 days and be patient. Since the ps3 have nothing yet, they might as well shut up and be patient until it happens. If you cant be patient, then give skyrim up. Give it up until an announcement. Its very fixable to stop feeling angry if you choose to or not.
u know that if we would be pissed if we were pc or worse the ps3 gamers shoes.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:36 pm

First off: Selling point. Im betting you want it more now since the trailer and no news is making you go crazy? Yea, selling point. Second: Many other reasons; Low budget, last minute touches, testing to see if it even functions for Beta'ing. There are many more reasons behind this but time is always of the essence; be patient and wait
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:44 pm

pssst... :whisper: It's spelled secretive. There is no "a"

I don't get it.

Why hide whether this is a timed exclusive or not?

My feeling is they don't want to lock themselves into saying something that cannot be backed up later on. For instance, before TES: IV was released, Beth was showing various trailers. It looked as if Radiant Ai in this game was going to be amazing. Then the game was released, and the Ai was nowhere near as amazing as in those trailers, and this caused a LOT of discord back in the day.

Beth would rather wait until they don't have to make announcements, because they've done their homework and everything is up to spec.

Be professional and announce it already.

All they are doing is causing discord with their fans and customers. Does that sound like a good way to run a business?

LOL. This is the videogame business, not airbags or safety-related items. No, I'd prefer they get it right before being "professional". I'd rather they can back up their words with viable actions.
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Post » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:43 am

pssst... :whisper: It's spelled secretive. There is no "a"



My feeling is they don't want to lock themselves into saying something that cannot be backed up later on. For instance, before TES: IV was released, Beth was showing various trailers. It looked as if Radiant Ai in this game was going to be amazing. Then the game was released, and the Ai was nowhere near as amazing as in those trailers, and this caused a LOT of discord back in the day.

Beth would rather wait until they don't have to make announcements, because they've done their homework and everything is up to spec.



LOL. This is the videogame business, not airbags or safety-related items. No, I'd prefer they get it right before being "professional". I'd rather they can back up their words with viable actions.

THANK YOU! Hell, most controversies are based on Cut-Content or crazy bugs. Im pretty damn grateful my hopes are too high. Id rather stay with Beth and not hate them(still trying to forgive for Fallout New Vegas x.x)
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