Why Skyrim is the last Bethesda game I'm purchasing

Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:41 pm

For Op, thank you for shared your opinion. I respect that, and I'd understand your feeling.
But, I would like to see future TES. And I love TES as same as Bethesda.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:15 pm

You know this thread is doomed to be locked when http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law has already been realized on page one.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:23 pm

You know this thread is doomed to be locked when http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law has already been realized on page one.

Hopefully, the offending comment will just be removed, and we can continue to have a dialogue about this.

Not holding my breath though.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:57 pm

Cool story, needs more dragons.
So, you are basicly saying "Hey everyone, I am leaving now. You must pay attention to me because of it"?
Fine, leave. No one actually care about that part of the topic. You have legitimate reasons for being disappointed in Skyrim, but why do you have to bring the "I am leaving" part into it? Seems rather childish in my opinion.
i completely agree
Yeah, not really caring over here. You didn't like a video game, boo-hoo. Move on and and get over it.
You know this thread is doomed to be locked when http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law has already been realized on page one.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:41 pm

Cool story, needs more dragons ARGONIANS.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:41 pm

Good points OP. Even with a 64bit OS the game was very unstable at release, and had many other issues like mouse look not working properly. Also only the low resolution console textures were available. The situation isn't so bad anymore.

Morrowind was the last good TES in my opinion. Since then TES games have in my opinion been unplayable without modding. Mod support is the only reason why I still play these games. Clunky made for console interfaces, untoggleable hand-holding features like the compass markers, no in-game support for standard PC features like different Field of Views...
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:43 pm

So, you are basicly saying "Hey everyone, I am leaving now. You must pay attention to me because of it"?
Fine, leave. No one actually care about that part of the topic. You have legitimate reasons for being disappointed in Skyrim, but why do you have to bring the "I am leaving" part into it? Seems rather childish in my opinion.

Your reading comprehension is lacking, to put it politely. My post wasn't about my 'leaving'. I was expressing my opinion - which I have a right to do, by the way, whether you like it or not. And I don't have to justify the manner in which I address anything to you, nor anyone else. If you dislike what I had to say, you have a 'back' button on your browser.

It is impossible to convey one's sentiments without, at least to some degree or another, expressing their personal experiences with whatever they are discussing. What was I supposed to do, come here and say 'I hate Skyrim! Its stupid!' without so much as a why? Without my reasons for feeling the way I feel? And yes, lots of people do in fact create exactly that sort of post on forums like these. I'd rather work toward making a valid point and expressing my exact reasons for making said point, than make yet another 'LOL BETHESDA U SUX WTF IS THIS' sort of post.

The point of my post is the disappointment I feel regarding Skyrim and in general, Bethesda's treatment of many of its customers. I punctuated that sentiment by stating that I would not support Bethesda further. That isn't a bluff, or a knee-jerk reaction - it is genuinely the way I feel. If some of you choose to define this as 'leaving' then so be it. This post isn't about me. I didn't come here looking for the approval or attention of any of you and, without meaning to sound rude, I could not care less about either. I came here to send a message to one entity: Bethesda. If this post was read one by so much as one of them and ignored by every other user on these boards, my 'mission' would have been accomplished. So, perhaps try and not assume what a person's intentions are if you do not understand their intentions.

I'm not here to rag on Skyrim. Its a fine game, when it works, that hits most of the bullet points that their games tend to hit. But there is simply no justification for the game that PS3 users got, for the lack of communication regarding "PC users, run 64-bit OS or else", for the fact that PC users got a console port shoveled into their laps, and now for the 'we never said anything about anyone else getting Dawnguard.' Dawnguard itself means nothing to me - I've never played a vampiric character in an ES game. Its the principle of it that bothers me, that XB360 users are 'preferred' customers because of this exclusivity. And the fact that on the 30th day, instead of the DLC being made availible, people waiting for it get the above-referenced message.

Whether you like what I have to say or not, the reality is that more people need to speak their mind about the way things make them feel. If every PS3 user came to these forums and basically demanded an explanation as to why they got the quality of game that they got, that would open eyes.

Perhaps my first post wasn't clear - some of the very, very best gaming experiences I've ever had are a result of Bethesda. Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, and in the moments I could actually enjoy it, I felt some of that magic with Skyrim. When the game crashed and crashed and crashed for me, I was distraught - not angry, distraught - because I wanted to experience the dragons, learn the shouts, all of that. There is genuine brilliance in the minds at Bethesda, and that brilliance results in games that are really unlike anything else in the industry save for their own sequels. The fact that they continue to make compelling single player games in an increasingly 'multiplayer or GTFO' industry is a large part of the respect I had for them.

But that brilliance does not excuse what has happened with Skyrim, the alarmingly growing trend of 'ship a trainwreck of a game, fix it with patches' that shouldn't be tolerated by any of us. It doesn't excuse the decision to jump into the cash boat with Microsoft and then have the audacity to /shrug their shoulders about when everyone else might get to see Dawnguard or any other DLC they make. My point is that this is not the kind of company that I'm going to support. Of course, I'm one person and ultimately its inconsequential. But if I can so much as make one person there think - even a little - about all that has happened since 11/11/11.... then the point of my post was achieved.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:12 pm

You could do a lot worse than Bethesda.
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Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:03 am

The night sky is beautiful though :bunny:
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:58 pm

I'll begin by saying that this will be a civil post - I'm not here to trash/flame/insult anyone. But I have a very strong opinion of Skyrim, and regrettably of Bethesda as a result. Some of my earliest memories as a PC gamer were sinking countless hours into Morrowind, and eventually Oblivion (and later Fallout 3) - I found that these games had an ability to immerse me to a degree that console games and even the vast majority of other PC games could not. I looked past the bugs, glitches, etc to the bigger picture - these massive, open gaming experiences which were unlike anything else I had seen.
I see that you liked the earlier games, as did I and they were indeed immersive, but I also find Skyrim immersive and a great role playing game, defining how I am going to role-play my role myself - as I did in the earlier games in fact. Each of them did have some differences in game-play style but they all very enjoyable games. I find Skyrim to be as enjoyable as the previous games and that an immence amount of thought had been put into Skyrim, that provided a balance of game factors that enabled any or at least most players to get a good game according to the way they wanted to play.

As for bugs and crashes, I'm on PC and only had one crash-out to desktop after 57 levels -- which was probably down to our beloved Microsoft anyway. I always, always start my game from a clean boot-up, so that no crap has been left behind from previous programs, and turn off Firewall, turn off antivirus, play the game off-line. Programs do close down but somehow not as cleanly as you would hope for. A clean boot-up always is better for any program to run at it's best. Hope that helps.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:27 pm

Hopefully, the offending comment will just be removed, and we can continue to have a dialogue about this.

Not holding my breath though.
Keep breathing. :)

Whilst this is basically a hello/goodbye post I will leave it open for now. Everyone has different experiences with their pc version but by far and away the majority have few problems - I had half a dozen or so lockups but nothing that was game breaking.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:52 pm

Yeah, not really caring over here. You didn't like a video game, boo-hoo. Move on and and get over it.

I can't help but feel you're missing the point, no offense. To me, the OP isn't saying they didn't like a video game because the story svcked or it didn't have enough exploding heads or whatever. The OP was criticizing the way Bethesda's conducting itself. Releasing broken ports of their product, filled to the point of bursting with bugs, and being rather non-communicative about the whole thing.

It seems less complaining about a rotten apple (Skyrim) and more pointing out that the orchard (Bethesda) the apple came from is becoming rotten.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:50 pm

OP makes good points.

but I know i'll be buying ES6 and FO4. I know you will too OP.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:48 pm

I see that you liked the earlier games, as did I and they were indeed immersive, but I also find Skyrim immersive and a great role playing game, defining how I am going to role-play my role myself - as I did in the earlier games in fact. Each of them did have some differences in game-play style but they all very enjoyable games. I find Skyrim to be as enjoyable as the previous games and that an immence amount of thought had been put into Skyrim, that provided a balance of game factors that enabled any or at least most players to get a good game according to the way they wanted to play.

As for bugs and crashes, I'm on PC and only had one crash-out to desktop after 57 levels -- which was probably down to our beloved Microsoft anyway. I always, always start my game from a clean boot-up, so that no crap has been left behind from previous programs, and turn off Firewall, turn off antivirus, play the game off-line. Programs do close down but somehow not as cleanly as you would hope for. A clean boot-up always is better for any program to run at it's best. Hope that helps.

This, all the way.
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Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:57 am

*sigh* no matter how big that post was, it doesn't veil the fact that what has REALLY got you riled up, OP, is the current silence over release dates. And you know what? That's all you needed to say, I honestly don't blame you for being upset.

I'm mighty interested to know WHY there is silence. Is it beths marketing people? Has something gone amiss behind the scenes? Do I need to get onto MS's case to vent my dissatisfaction of their treatment of other gamers via a gagging order in the exclusivity deal...?
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Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:13 am

Not sure about addons,but I will purchase TES 6 (if they will release it).
TES online is a totaly piece of [censored] and won't deserve my attention.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:11 pm

Then I will buy 2 copies to compensate the loss :tes:
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:04 pm

So OP wants us to care because.......?

Seriously, Skyrim does have its issues and bugs, but its obvious this is not what the OP is really mad at. Its about the dawnguard release date fiasco isn't it?

Edit:Ninja'd, someone mentioned this already.
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Post » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:39 am

Bethesda doe make some screw-ups.

Are you really just upset at how they're handling the release dates? How they seem to cater more to the 360 players, and giving the PS3 and PC players the shaft? I agree, they should be treating people of all three platforms equally.
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