Why is the DLC's taking so Long...

Post » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:22 am

Im still waiting for New Vegas DLC

No Skyrim or another game for me until the release day of DLC, playing other games or doing other stuff until that time

I think people are getting restless over New Vegas' DLC because there weren't many real beefy quests in New Vegas. I find myself enjoying them once or twice but after that I just go through the motions to get the XP or reward. On top of that, there wasn't much to explore. Fallout 3 had downtown D.C., and lots of mountains, and varying terrain. New Vegas is rather flat and boring to explore, and didn't have a lot locations that you wanted to go to.


I personally found New Vegas more enjoying and inmmersive then Fallout 3, because of the quest, there is a lot of them to do, and they have various ways to achieve them,Fallout 3 had better exploring but not much to do rather than just wander in ruins and loot stuff, with I dont like to do in a RPG unless its a MMORPG like WOW or Lineage 2
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:45 pm

I still think that there will be just three more DLC (Honest Hearts, Old World Blues and Lonesome Road). I think they are all done and have been for months, now it's up to Bethesda to Q and A them and then market them all. I think Obsidian originally planned on more like 5-8 but all the issues with the game and with Skyrim coming out all those plans went down the toilet. Maybe they should of postponed New Vegas until all the bugs have been worked out.
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Post » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:59 am

sorry state of things when employees do a great job for you and you lay them off to give ceo a bigger bonus
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:00 pm

I still think that there will be just three more DLC (Honest Hearts, Old World Blues and Lonesome Road). I think they are all done and have been for months, now it's up to Bethesda to Q and A them and then market them all. I think Obsidian originally planned on more like 5-8 but all the issues with the game and with Skyrim coming out all those plans went down the toilet. Maybe they should of postponed New Vegas until all the bugs have been worked out.


Id be a little pissed if the reason of why they cut some DLC is because of Skyrim, nothing against that game because I waiting for it, but why developing of a game must suffer just because the Release of new games?
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Post » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:30 am

Look at the timeframe for Fallout 3's release and the release of it's DLC. Fallout 3 was released at the end of October. Anchorage was released in January, then the Pitt in March, then Broken Steel in May, followed by Point Lookout in June and finally Mothership Zeta in August.

The economy was much more stable back then and companies felt more secure in spending money on extra content. I have noticed a decline in responsiveness to bug issues and DLC releases in the past 2 years (with alot of gaming companies) with alot of stuff is getting cut across the board. Plus F3 garnered a bunch of attention (cause it was that good) and while I like NV there is a lack of quality control going on and it is kinda more of the same with dated engine. The layoffs don't bode well for things and I hope bug issues do not stop them from releasing nearly finished DLC. Fallout is still a viable franchise but layoffs can sometimes mean things getting shelved.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:47 pm

sorry state of things when employees do a great job for you and you lay them off to give ceo a bigger bonus

Thats the svcky state of things. Greed always lays waste to artistic vision; and a whole lot of other stuff to boot.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:49 pm

i think the notion that they don't want to produce a "Mothership Zeta-type" DLC, and are legitimately concerned about giving gamers what they want, is absurd. the reason it is taking so long is because they don't care about Fallout: New Vegas as much as you do; they're doing more important things and they don't figure you're worth keeping in the loop, because you aren't. as long as you fork over the cash on game day, which you will, all is good in the world.

he has a point i mean this is bs and im pissed but they did a wonderful job on dead money so if its as good as that awesome and ya im going to buy it either way but the average gamer wont if they dont get the hypeand trailers.
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Post » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:15 am

I often wonder why we can't get certain topics stickied to this board. Things like post-game play and multiplayer and how they aren't in (and aren't planned to be in) this game.

But then I see a post like this. The subject of which was already addressed (recently!) in a stickied post.

And I realize that people aren't going read what's already out there. And it doesn't mean [censored] that something is sticky.

:sigh:

To answer the question in the OP ("what do you guys think"), I say:

I think asking when we'll get the DLC is legitimate, but adding to the query any of your thoughts on "value" or "desire" in a negative way simply because you can't be patient is now officially beyond ridiculous.

Thanks for coming out.


The question is a good one since we never get a good response. All we ever get is a vague timeframe that says "eventually" which we already knew.

The stickied post only says that they want to get an update out first but that doesn't mean they shouldn't give a few images to satisfy people.

Yes, there are a few leaked ones, but the quality is so bad that they aren't even worth looking at.

Even the bit about the update is vague and pointless since it doesn't say when it will be out or when they hope it is out.

These DLCs are taking too long with no information in between.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:45 pm

It's like they're dangling a turkey leg on a stick in front of us. Over the past.....four months? We've gotten very vague, slight hints at the DLC coming, with no actual estimated time frame given. I mean, first it was the Snow Globe, then it was the trip to Utah on their twitter, then it was the promotional image, then it was the achievements....It's sooooooo freaking obvious it's Honest Hearts. But look at what they HAVE given us: in their official statement, they don't admit to it being Honest Hearts. They're soooo vague with the details. At least give us an estimated release date ("Mid-May," for example), give us a trailer or a small statement about what the story will be about. All we've gotten since Dead Money came out was data files and info that PLAYERS found and the devs seemed to just pretend didn't exist. It's as if you find the info, go up to the and say "hey what's this about" and they just stare at you with a vacant look and don't even reply with a "not telling you;" they don't reply AT ALL. It's rude and frustrating! If the snowglobe was a minor update and Honest hearts would still be a while away, tell us. If Honest Hearts is coming in two weeks, tell us. Don't just leave us hanging.


So yeah, I'm not worried about the DLC itself and I'm willing to bet the DLC will be released in May, but the way they've handled providing their customers with info has been, with all due respect, piss poor. Dead Money was released just fine, so I don't understand why they're doing so poorly with releasing this one...
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:16 pm

Bethesda nor does it's parent company Zenimax, own Obsidian.


No one said they did. But Obsidian can only do as many DLCs as Betheda authorizes and pays for. Once those are done then Obsidian has to either find other work for those people or let them go, and the fact that they let them go strongly suggests that whatever has been finished over the last several months is all we are going to get.

If you look at the Fallout Wiki article about the layoffs at Obsidian you will see that the recommendation letters reprinted there are vague about how many DLCs there are. However, one of the people let go indicated on her Linkedin page that she worked on New Vegas, Dead Money, Honest Hearts, an unannounced NV DLC, and an unannounced project (presumably not NV related). That would be a total of 3 DLCs confirmed. That may be all we get.

And I would be shocked if they released them all at once. Maybe they skip May given the other Bethesda projects, but it would make no sense to release them at the same time.
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Post » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:27 am

I still think we'll have 3 more but the original reviews of New Vegas I think hurt it DLC wise. Even with the Patchs out the damage has been done.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:14 pm

I still think we'll have 3 more but the original reviews of New Vegas I think hurt it DLC wise. Even with the Patchs out the damage has been done.

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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:19 pm

What annoys (and borderline insults) me is

A. We've known for four months that Honest Hearts is the next DLC

B. We already know the whole plot line because of the PS3 trophy descriptions

and C. The trailer is already uploaded to YouTube, but it's SITTING THERE and it's MARKED PRIVATE.


Who does Obsidian/Bethesda (I honestly don't care which) think they're teasing? We know we're going to meet some guy named Daniel, fight a tribe called the White Legs, get Joshua Graham some ointment, and evacuate Zion National Park, so this is pointless. I haven't played New Vegas in 2 months, and I honestly considered selling it today, (even after the hundreds of hours I've put into it) which shocked even me. Not only am I getting irritated that getting one crumb of official information has taken so long, I'm starting to lose interest in anything attached to Bethesda (which should've happened the second Fallout 3 froze on my four times in the opening sequence... but I digress),


Anyway, thumbs up, I'm going to put those ten bucks into a copy of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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Post » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:40 am

I'm not going to complain widly, but why? When I heard of the dlc's coming out, I was told it would be around the beginning of the year. Now, it's almost the mid of the year where games I pre-ordered or will buy comes out. I can't hold onto money for a dlc that takes so long to come out and is probrably only 5 hours when a 14+ hour game comes out on May 17th, which I doubt the dlc will be out by then. The dlc's are dragging into when other games come out, whcih creates a problem for me. Heck, the dlc's dragging on for so lon is a problem.

I just don't think the DLCs are worth it anymore if they're gonna take this long. By the time they do come out, I'll probrably have no time, money, desire to even buy them.


What do you guys think?


No flamming


I was going to respond to the topic being discussed but then I got distracted by your grossly offensive signature.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:55 pm

Damn dude, get over it, its just a name. I could say I was offended by the way you look at me through you avatar but you dont hear me complain do you? Aside from that...

Obsidian is appearently working on a few fixes for the last patch. Dont recall having heard of the said problems with FO3, but hey, let them finish it (soon plz) and then release the DLC right after that. Probably wont see that happen before Tuesday, and yes, I too get impatient, but I guess a few days more wouldnt hurt (that much, it still hurts though). I guess everyone has a different definition of "soon" and BethSidian's definition is not likely to be the same as ours.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:03 pm

Yeah, I honestly don't care, I try to play NV on my 360 to enjoy it so the DLC will be more worthwhile, but after getting all the achievements and every weapon and armor, as well as beating all the main quest lines and beaten hardcoe, it is just boring, Dead Money was fun, but all you get is a vending machine, some new weapons and armor, (Like 3 or 4 of each) and a perk for a follower as well as previews about future DLC's. I really think they need to put something up giving some information, or they will regret it. For instance, this doesn't have to do with F:NV, but it applies to what I'm talking about. A huge amount of gamers play COD:BO and if you don't know next week a massive zombie map as well as multiplayer ones will be released, that means people who play that and Fallout will just spend money on that. If they don't, there are a majority of games getting released soon and in the future, so if they say " One Month until Honest Hearts" or whatever DLC, they will take some losses. That's just what I'm thinking, but most people are dedicated to Fallout, so I think they'll hold off just a little longer. Sorry about the Non-Fallout Discussion in a couple of sentences but I was making an example. Dead Money may of had alot more, but I got everything in it, and the things listed above may not be all of it, but that's what I can think of. I really hope they do a good job with the upcoming ones, and with PSN going down and the lay offs, There is no clue whats happening at this point. I guess we can hope a classic Fallout DLC will be released, and be just as epic as ones in FO3. ( Not all of them, just two or three were good in my opinion ) I'm gonna go download the patch, and edit my post if I get messed up saves.

One more thing, I am considering selling at this point, when the BO DLC gets released, I will pick it up and give this two weeks, if it isin't out or no news, I'm going to most likely sell F:NV.

Sorry for Spoilers ( If there are any )
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:45 pm

Yeah, I honestly don't care, I try to play NV on my 360 to enjoy it so the DLC will be more worthwhile, but after getting all the achievements and every weapon and armor, as well as beating all the main quest lines and beaten hardcoe, it is just boring, Dead Money was fun, but all you get is a vending machine, some new weapons and armor, (Like 3 or 4 of each) and a perk for a follower as well as previews about future DLC's. I really think they need to put something up giving some information, or they will regret it. For instance, this doesn't have to do with F:NV, but it applies to what I'm talking about. A huge amount of gamers play COD:BO and if you don't know next week a massive zombie map as well as multiplayer ones will be released, that means people who play that and Fallout will just spend money on that. If they don't, there are a majority of games getting released soon and in the future, so if they say " One Month until Honest Hearts" or whatever DLC, they will take some losses. That's just what I'm thinking, but most people are dedicated to Fallout, so I think they'll hold off just a little longer. Sorry about the Non-Fallout Discussion in a couple of sentences but I was making an example. Dead Money may of had alot more, but I got everything in it, and the things listed above may not be all of it, but that's what I can think of. I really hope they do a good job with the upcoming ones, and with PSN going down and the lay offs, There is no clue whats happening at this point. I guess we can hope a classic Fallout DLC will be released, and be just as epic as ones in FO3. ( Not all of them, just two or three were good in my opinion ) I'm gonna go download the patch, and edit my post if I get messed up saves.

One more thing, I am considering selling at this point, when the BO DLC gets released, I will pick it up and give this two weeks, if it isin't out or no news, I'm going to most likely sell F:NV.

Sorry for Spoilers ( If there are any )

The DLC is done, we just need to wait until Bethesda Softworks (Publishers of New Vegas) announce it.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:39 pm

The DLC is done, we just need to wait until Bethesda Softworks (Publishers of New Vegas) announce it.


I dont think that was his point. I think his point was that other companies are releasing new promising games and/or DLCs soon. If Honest Hearts will take much longer, FO:NV will miss out on lot of profit since many people will have to decide which game/DLC to pick, most likely favoring other developer's content over that of Beth/Obs since their product is still not released. I'd like to add to that: if Beth/Obs keeps this tradition up, they'll lose credibility in regard to DLCs, even if Honest Hearts is gonna rock. People are (getting) impatient, and are prone to buy one good exsisting product over an unreleased "better" product. This can even result in consumers losing severe interest in the unreleased product as other newer products become available right after the previously released product (still getting me). In short:
Product A is good, people buy and use it, product B is announced and supposedly better but not released, by the time people get tired of product A product C is released and proven to be a good product as well and people will buy that one while product B is still on hold.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:43 pm

I dont think that was his point. I think his point was that other companies are releasing new promising games and/or DLCs soon. If Honest Hearts will take much longer, FO:NV will miss out on lot of profit since many people will have to decide which game/DLC to pick, most likely favoring other developer's content over that of Beth/Obs since their product is still not released. I'd like to add to that: if Beth/Obs keeps this tradition up, they'll lose credibility in regard to DLCs, even if Honest Hearts is gonna rock. People are (getting) impatient, and are prone to buy one good exsisting product over an unreleased "better" product. This can even result in consumers losing severe interest in the unreleased product as other newer products become available right after the previously released product (still getting me). In short:
Product A is good, people buy and use it, product B is announced and supposedly better but not released, by the time people get tired of product A product C is released and proven to be a good product as well and people will buy that one while product B is still on hold.


All of this has made me lose faith in obsidian (who I believe is doing all the work), not bethesda (whos producing it, if I'm not mistaken). I feel that obsidian just isn't large enough to handle making a game like FO. They did a great job with the story, I just felt it had far too little side content (fetch quests aside) to compared to 3. I think its just the fault of a lack of man power. I believe this is why it took so long to patch and get the DLC's out. If it was bethesda doing it, we'd probably be waiting for the third DLC, with a trailer already up. I have plenty of confidence in bethesda, I just get the impression that obsidian is miss managed, lacking man power, has bad marketing/pr skills, and is in need of overall better managment, esp considering the recent layoffs. I think they have a lot of issues to work out at the higher corporate levels.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:16 pm

All of this has made me lose faith in obsidian (who I believe is doing all the work), not bethesda (whos producing it, if I'm not mistaken). I feel that obsidian just isn't large enough to handle making a game like FO. They did a great job with the story, I just felt it had far too little side content (fetch quests aside) to compared to 3. I think its just the fault of a lack of man power. I believe this is why it took so long to patch and get the DLC's out. If it was bethesda doing it, we'd probably be waiting for the third DLC, with a trailer already up. I have plenty of confidence in bethesda, I just get the impression that obsidian is miss managed, lacking man power, has bad marketing/pr skills, and is in need of overall better managment, esp considering the recent layoffs. I think they have a lot of issues to work out at the higher corporate levels.

there wouldn't have been any patches if bethesda was doing it look at fallout 3 they didn't patch anything, obsidian is making the dlc's bethesda is marketing and distributing them so it appears your real problem is with bethesda, not to say obsidian is perfect but we should blame the correct parties for their mistakes right?
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:56 pm

hey my best bet its gunna be out the 3rd of May last DLC comeout with the new maps maybe this one will
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Post » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:23 am

there wouldn't have been any patches if bethesda was doing it look at fallout 3 they didn't patch anything, obsidian is making the dlc's bethesda is marketing and distributing them so it appears your real problem is with bethesda, not to say obsidian is perfect but we should blame the correct parties for their mistakes right?


There seems to be a real lack of coordination between Bethesda and Obsidian at times. Both share the blame equally in my opinion.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:33 pm

There seems to be a real lack of coordination between Bethesda and Obsidian at times. Both share the blame equally in my opinion.


Actually, if 2 companies engage in a joint venture (if we are to consider New Vegas+DLC as such), then both parties are indeed responsible for issues, even if one of those parties was the source of such an issue. Shared production is shared responsibility. Beth delivered the engine and other mechanisms (including all the flaws we witnessed in FO3) and Obs molded that intellectual property into something that still needs fixing from their own side. So, yeah, both are responisble.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:26 pm

I think Bethesda has too much on their plate as of right now. They're trying to juggle skyrim,brink, and releasing patches that at this point, nobody really cares about. All that is affecting info and the release of hoenst hearts. Also, they got hit with lay offs again, so they're in trouble right now.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:41 pm

Im sure their trying to make sure the next dlc will run without no bugs, glitches or crashes. If they were to rush it then it would have a lot of bugs, glitches, and crashes.
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