Why the hate on Activision?

Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:59 am

I've never seen a thread made on here (just using here as an example) saying "Capcom milks X franchise."

I have seen, however, a thread about Activision milking Call of Duty.

We happen to be in one of said threads.

What, we are in one of those threads now? You don't say. Please, knock of the condescending attitude.

So you are saying you have never seen a single member make a post saying Capcom likes to milk out franchises? Or likes to employ unsavory business practices? Or gouges the hell out of DLC prices?
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:10 am


Sorry, but the sad truth is most "hardcoe" gamers prefer instant gratification and unnecesarily rough competition over a game with a long story, multiple quests, and an average play time of 200 hours. I prefer a longer game, but a large potion of gamers do not have the time or patience to follow suit.

That's a bad business attitude. There's really no reason why a game not like COD cant beat COD sales
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:34 am

If I recall, this isn't the early 90s. Currently, I have not heard or seen people complaining that Capcom milks Mega Man.
I never claimed that this is the early 90s, if that's what you thought then you missed the point. I was merely pointed out that Capcom have a very long and rich history when it comes to milking complaints. People complained about Capcom and their Mega Man milking in the early 90s, and then about their Street Fighter milking and now about their Resident Evil milking with all their Resident Evil spin-off games.

I was exaggerating about everyone loving Capcom, but I have definitely never seen as much criticism directed at them as I do Activision. Certainly not here.
That is true, there's relatively little discussion on this forum when it comes to japanese games, and the discussion that do pop up here is usually about JRPGs in the JRPG thread and not the Capcom games. But if you do look at places that do discuss them, then you will see plenty.
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:55 pm

What, we are in one of those threads now? You don't say. Please, knock of the condescending attitude.

So you are saying you have never seen a single member make a post saying Capcom likes to milk out franchises? Or likes to employ unsavory business practices? Or gouges the hell out of DLC prices?
Where was the condescending attitude exactly?

Please re~read what I actually said and what you have said.

You are trying to point light at singular posts, posts, about Capcom. I said entire threads. There's a hefty difference.

While we're at it, I did five seconds of research on this versy site:

Searched "Activision milking" and got 20 some threads.

Searched "Capcom milking" and got 3.

One of which Activision was part of.
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:26 am

I never claimed that this is the early 90s, if that's what you thought then you missed the point. I was merely pointed out that Capcom have a very long and rich history when it comes to milking complaints. People complained about Capcom and their Mega Man milking in the early 90s, and then about their Street Fighter milking and now about their Resident Evil milking with all their Resident Evil spin-off games.


That is true, there's relatively little discussion on this forum when it comes to japanese games, and the discussion that do pop up here is usually about JRPGs in the JRPG thread and not the Capcom games. But if you do look at places that do discuss them, then you will see plenty.
Your second quote reply is the point I was leaning to.
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:17 pm

That's a bad business attitude. There's really no reason why a game not like COD cant beat COD sales
Well than it's a good thing you're not in charge.
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:00 am

Where was the condescending attitude exactly?

Please re~read what I actually said and what you have said.

You are trying to point light at singular posts, posts, about Capcom. I said entire threads. There's a hefty difference.

Except these threads aren't as common as you make them appear to be. And what has this discussion already gone too in this thread? Capcom, and other developers/publishers. Many of these types of threads on Community Discussion will end up with Activision, EA, and Capcom at the center of attention.

I have seen, however, a thread about Activision milking Call of Duty.

We happen to be in one of said threads.
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:26 pm

Except these threads aren't as common as you make them appear to be. And what has this discussion already gone too in this thread? Capcom, and other developers/publishers. Many of these types of threads on Community Discussion will end up with Activision, EA, and Capcom at the center of attention.
While we're at it, I did five seconds of research on this very site:

Searched "Activision milking" and got 20 some threads.

Searched "Capcom milking" and got 3.

One of which Activision was part of.

Searched "Activsion" and got 20 pages of threads.

Searched "Capcom" and got 8 pages of threads.

Doesn't show a lot of balance, does it?

I'll even do more than 5 seconds of research from this thread: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1386653-best-and-worst-gaming-companies/page__hl__activision%20milking

Activision is mentioned 13 times in 30 posts (first page only).

Capcom is mentioned 3 times in 30 posts (first page only).

It seems Activision being blamed is fairly common and Capcom being blamed is fairly uncommon.
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:21 am


Well than it's a good thing you're not in charge.
Not yet. I'm working on it. Don't even wanna be in charge just wanna be a mover. Hoping internet doesn't get commercialized/censored.
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:27 pm

While we're at it, I did five seconds of research on this very site:

Searched "Activision milking" and got 20 some threads.

Searched "Capcom milking" and got 3.

One of which Activision was part of.

Searched "Activsion" and got 20 pages of threads.

Searched "Capcom" and got 8 pages of threads.

Doesn't show a lot of balance, does it?

I'll even do more than 5 seconds of research from this thread: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1386653-best-and-worst-gaming-companies/page__hl__activision%20milking

Activision is mentioned 13 times in 30 posts (first page only).

Capcom is mentioned 3 times in 30 posts (first page only).

It seems Activision being blamed is fairly common and Capcom being blamed is fairly uncommon.
As a trained social scientist (I don't get to say that very often), I'd just like to point out that the scope of your research is too small to fully support the conclusions you're trying to draw...
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:08 pm

As a trained social scientist (I don't get to say that very often), I'd just like to point out that the scope of your research is too small to fully support the conclusions you're trying to draw...
Not to mention that the sample he does have is biased towards western products to start with.
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Post » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:10 pm

So... you're just blaming the company rather than the fans who are acting dumb.

Makes total sense.

I blame the company to the extent that what they're doing is, in my view anyway, strangling innovation in the industry. Neglecting older and/or acquired titles so the quality declines and they can eventually cancel them when the sales drop off, treating single player modes as a complete afterthought so they don't have to bother putting any effort into creating a compelling story, relying on giving a few star titles a fresh coat of paint every year and re-releasing them, the overall homogenation of game offerings coming out these days.

What's the point in another developer even trying to take a risk to produce something totally new and different? Such a move would actually be a dumb one; the future is clearly in just rehashing old titles and re-releasing them. I hate to see a future where new gamers aren't even aware that there once were other things to play besides CoD and Angry Birds and the rest of it. They're going to miss out on a lot of really great stuff.
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