I don't know if it's the same problem, but I find I have to push the button multiple times in order to get it to switch. What's the ini tweak for faster switches?

[Camera]
fMouseWheelZoomSpeed=60.0000
f1st3rdSwitchDelay=0.9500
iHorseTransitionMillis=001

Edit, someone else gave me this info on the forums a long time ago. Sorry for not remembering your name whoever you are.

I just went into the game to see how it was in my game. It takes me about a second, I'd guess. Or do you mean the zoom effect itself?

::EDIT:: Judging by your ini settings I'm guessing you mean the zoom effect. Yes, that zoom bothers me as well. I don't much like any kind of zoom effect anywhere, to be honest (couldn't stand it during dialogs in Oblivion). I may just apply those changes to my .ini too. Thanks.

I mean when you press the button to switch views, it takes way to long. Especially in combat it seems to take forever. It slowly zooms in/out to the other view.

And sometimes it seems like I have to spam the button for it to even work.

Edit #2: Np.

I'd like playing without the HUD, but there are too many quests that are impossible to do without the compass. Many NPCs give you no directions at all and expect you to find what it is you're looking for in some random cave halfway across the map - poor design there.

Try this: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=11135

Which ini file does this go into?

C:\Users\Computer\Documents\My Games\Skyrim

NOT Skyrimprefs.

Cheers, Wasn't sure which one.

Finally up ,and running with the new rig. It is amazing what a difference it is. Still the same controller and same 720 plasma HDTV. It's the xbox on roids.

The FIRST mod I downloaded was the Immersive HUD. I have hated that damn compass ever since the launch. However, I could not live with out being able to tell what you are pocking up and who was who. I could live without the H/M/S bars, but now I ahve it all. I love it. No HUD unless I need it.

No compass ever. I can remove that stupid tape from my TV. And no crosshair unless I am shooting something or sneaking.

Grats on the switch. Need some mod recommendations? I can PM you a bunch if you want.

Edit: Sorry TC, didn't mean to get off topic, I'll shut up now.
Iv'e been drinking, It's my day off..

I am now using this. Oh My God - So simple, yet So Awesome.

I agree! I just also just decided to turn off the compass today and the world seems so much bigger!

Salvation is on it's way: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=11135 , if you're on PC. EDIT: beaten to it.

I play without the compass, turn off the sneak indicator and cross hairs. Combat music is disabled. It's wonderful, so much more immersive. Wish I knew how to disable those messages telling you you've increased sneak or whatever skill.

I wanted to do this since before I got the game and use the preorder map for navigation If only it was as detailed as Oblivion's in-game map I never got around to doing it, but I'm reconsidering now.


See, this is why nobody believes anyone on the internet.

I like it, it makes archery much more challenging, fun, but some times frustrating.

Its all fun and games untill you walk into a shop and try to talk to the owner, but end up stealing some thing on the counter instead beacause your cross hair is off. Thats the main reason why I generaly keep the hud on.

I agree, it is lovely seeing the world without the compass being there.



Yup. It is easy to get around without the compass. I never used it when it was there.

Felt I had to contribute.. had been playing my main char for about 150hrs until I turned down the HUD and shut off the music and started a new Khajit on Master difficulty.

Wow is right..


I dismount, and cast. Now, clairvoyance is my best friend. I've been bound to find some kind of magical axe, and following a magical light to Talos knows where, I'm stumbling around half-blind in a light snow thats turned into a storm.

I should have read the signs - the wind that started as a light tugging at my hood is now howling down from the mountains, drowning out all other ambient sound.. except for the occasional snort of my horse, which has me freeze mid-step, axe raised.. and curse myself again for my jitteriness.

If I can't hear the howl of the wolves..or the quickening footsteps on the road behind me..

What did that last sign say ? Riften ? I peer out into the gathering gloom, and see only a road that disappears into darkness and a roiling vortex of snow..

Why didn't I stop in that abandoned campsite and bed down for the night ?

The axe..

It was the lure of the axe, of course.. the magical axe and all that it promised to a gullible young Khajit with empty pockets, a long way from home...

I stop.. something is moving, just off the road to the left.. a man-sized silhouette, fading in and out of the blizzard.. no.. two !

I wait, crouched.. the keening of the wind muffles the sound of the blood rushing in my ears. I grip my axe, and raise my hand to summon
another.. the snap and flare of the spell.. a mistake !

The two figures stop, and then slowly advance down the road toward me.. through the howling din, I swear I hear the dim scraqe of metal on metal..

Perhaps the magical axe has found me..

I've tried playing without the compass, but it doesn't help when you know the map of Skyrim like the back of your hand. That, and the journals aren't as descriptive as they were in Morrowind. As for no HUD, well, I don't like not knowing how much Health and Magicka I have left.

I disagree. Getting rid of that stupid radar alone makes it worth it, even if you do know the map like the back of your hand. Of course, you also learn where enemies spawn, so you know where to look for enemies, but they can still surprise you some times. Far more than they ever did with the compass, anyways.

As for the journal and quest descriptions... Yeah, they svck in Skyrim. However, that's what Clairvoyance and the map are for.

I could live without the compass and markers and such but I need my health, stamina, and crosshair. I don't like to guess how my character is doing and it's just too hard to aim and pick up things without the crosshairs. I can't bother spending a few hours learning how to get by without that. It would annoy me too much. I tried it though but no way. I'm on the 360 so my options obviously are limited by that.

I approve of this thread. The ectasy of reading through it has made me happy.

I hear you. After 150 hours, I know where this is, and that is, and what is where, and what is what. To quote Twain, the riverboat captain..

"Now when I had mastered the language of this water, and had come to know every trifling feature that bordered the great river as familiarly as I knew the letters of the alphabet, I had made a valuable acquisition.
But I had lost something, too. I had lost something which could never be restored me while I lived. All the grace, the beauty, the poetry, had gone out of the majestic river".. along with the mystery..

Now, playing without the hud, sometimes I get lost.. far from a safe hearth and an alchemy table, I have to count my potions, and know when to continue to swing, or turn and run into .. that cave I just passed ? What if there's something in there ? Something.. worse...

And bandits all look the same when they are waving a great sword in your face.. but we know they are not all the same, don't we. We know that some bandits can leave you bleeding by the side of the road with three swings
of that great sword.

But you might just take him out.. and that great sword will be yours..

How many swings of your little axe is it going to take .. and how many potions ?

Alone, so far from that safe hearth..

Yeh.. playing this way has done something I didn't think possible.. its returned some of the mystery to the world

I cant even see the compass because the UI is so offscale compared to my tv...

Turn off voice
Turn on subtitles

old school rpg