Xbox could be banned in the US?

Post » Sat May 26, 2012 9:21 am

Microsoft? Monopoly? I'm sorry, what? What about Sony? Apple? All that other crap?

(Did I just end every bit of that with a question mark? Is that awesome or what?)

95% of all PCs use a Windows Operating system. About 2-3% use Apple's OS. The remainder uses 3rd-party-programs. The Console gaming is far more equal, with more weight on Nintendo's Wii (successful advertising as a "family" console with "intuitive" controls being the primary reason.) If you're talking a PC, Microsoft has an effective monopoly.

Why else do all PC manufacturers immedately adopt the latest Microsoft OS when it gets released on their pre-builts?
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95% of all PCs use a Windows Operating system. About 2-3% use Apple's OS. The remainder uses 3rd-party-programs. The Console gaming is far more equal, with more weight on Nintendo's Wii (successful advertising as a "family" console with "intuitive" controls being the primary reason.) If you're talking a PC, Microsoft has an effective monopoly.

Why else do all PC manufacturers immedately adopt the latest Microsoft OS when it gets released on their pre-builts?

A monopoly is when one company owns/controls all the pieces of any single market. As long as there's competition that's strong enough to not be squashed out by the bigger dude, and there is in this case, there's no monopoly.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 1:31 pm

95% of all PCs use a Windows Operating system. About 2-3% use Apple's OS. The remainder uses 3rd-party-programs. The Console gaming is far more equal, with more weight on Nintendo's Wii (successful advertising as a "family" console with "intuitive" controls being the primary reason.) If you're talking a PC, Microsoft has an effective monopoly.

Why else do all PC manufacturers immedately adopt the latest Microsoft OS when it gets released on their pre-builts?
Thankfully, it hasn't been 95% in some time. Windows is around 85-90%, OS X is between 6-10%, and Linux is around 2 or 3%



A monopoly is when one company owns/controls all the pieces of any single market. As long as there's competition that's strong enough to not be squashed out by the bigger dude, and there is in this case, there's no monopoly.
That's the strict definition of monopoly, but in real-world situations if a company has overwhelming control over a market, they have complete reign to implement many monopolistic practices. This is why no monopoly can do perfect price descrimination, but they can still do a lot.

The status of Microsoft's monopoly status shows up in the fact that Apple has to build in support for FAT, SMB/CIFS, and Active Directory into their computer in order to stay relevent. The fact that pretty much all peripheral memory devices come formatted in FAT is another pointer. The use of the MTP protocol yet another.

Microsoft has, on numerous occasions, been found guilty of anticompetitive and monopolistic practices.

Microsoft's monopoly on the desktop has been slowly eroding for some time, but it's still quite a powerful force. MS Office is probably a more powerful force for Microsoft right now.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 4:13 am

Well, in terms of consoles, which was what the subject was, they have no where near a monopoly.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 8:18 am

LOL wut?

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of dumb [censored]. This ranks right up there amongst some of the dumbest things.
Your post would've been +50% better if you spelled "dum" every time, instead of "dumb" :P just sayin'...

Meh. Not worried. I have enough Xbox 360 controllers lying around to last for a while :)
As for next console; I REALLY doubt we'll even notice if there's a difference.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 10:44 am

Good thing I bought a 360 eairly then :wink:.
...it was released 6 years ago
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 8:42 am

Pretty much. I don't understand why people get mad at corporations for figuring out ways to make money. They're machines that exist to do just that...it's nothing personal...they don't have emotions and they're (probably) not just doing it to piss you off. If you don't like what they do then don't buy their products. You can't fight markets, though, they're forces of nature. :shrug: If a market is receptive to a product then it will sell as surely as the water will fall out of your glass when you turn it upside-down (try getting mad at the water and see if it has any effect).

And that means that we have to like it? Why shouldn't we get mad over something that many people dislike? DLCs have ushered the age of the expansion(for the most part) out the damn window, and no offense, but there has NEVER, in the history of DLC, been a DLC that is anywhere near as good as an Expansion pack. Just because they are just "Figuring out ways to make money, which is their purpose" doesn't mean we should remain silent about it, or be forced to like it. By your logic(and yes, this is a stretch), Jews should have just accepted Hitlers extermination of them because it was just what his Nazi political machine did! Edit:(Again, just pointing out that I fully realize the above is quite a stretch when it comes to comparisons, I'm sure anyone reading it is going "oh, come on, you can't possibly equate a real world travesty like that to something as minor as Video game developers making DLC", and I'm not, really. I'm just pointing out how absolutely ludicrous it is to say that "I don't understand why people get mad at corporations for figuring out ways to make money". If you can't understand why people don't like something that is not healthy for their hobby, and is causing a decline, and why they would get mad about that, you really need to sit down and think for a few hours, I'm sure you'll figure it out.)
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 12:45 pm

Edit:(Again, just pointing out that I fully realize the above is quite a stretch when it comes to comparisons, I'm sure anyone reading it is going "oh, come on, you can't possibly equate a real world travesty like that to something as minor as Video game[s]

No it isn't, you're employing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 10:20 am

No it isn't, you're employing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum.
sounds like something harry potter would say
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 1:24 am

Stop sales of current Xbox controls/consoles > MadCatZ and other modded controller makers profit big time.

Next gen Xbox console will be sped up and the tech in the control changed.

Simples
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 7:26 am

This is why i own guns. My Xbox! MINE!!!

Many guns :-D

I wonder if sony would raise the price of ps3 as a result. Rockafeller would be dancing in his grave. Guess its time to go buy a few extra controllers.....
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 9:57 am

sounds like something harry potter would say

It would, Rowling uses latin roots when writing spells.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 10:53 am

It would, Rowling uses latin roots when writing spells.
interesting, i didn't know that. thanks :)
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 2:36 am


Also foreign constitutional laws are weird. In the UK we don't let our judges write laws,
If you live in England or Wales, you've got plenty of experience with the common law. Though that's not what's happening here. The International Trade Commission isn't actually a court, and doesn't have any sort of ability to set legal precedent. Rather, they are exercising regulatory authority.

and we don't let the executive overturn judicial decisions.

The closest the President can get to overturning a judicial decision is the Pardon, which isn't what's happening here. The International Trade Commission conducts trial-like hearings as part of it's process, but the "Administrative law Judges" it employs don't actually preside over a proper court. In reality, this isn't a judicial decision at all.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 7:42 am

Motorola can get over it.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 4:34 am

The International Trade Commission conducts trial-like hearings as part of it's process, but the "Administrative law Judges" it employs don't actually preside over a proper court. In reality, this isn't a judicial decision at all.
Ah, so it's more like an arbitration tribunal?
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 12:02 pm

It would, Rowling uses latin roots when writing spells.
And she misspells Abra Kadabra terribly wrong -_-
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 2:25 pm

MS makes all that money.. :dry:
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 1:02 pm

well, if Xbox is banned, maybe bethesda might make skyrim DLC non-exclusive? i doubt it, but i can always hope
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 7:35 am

No it isn't, you're employing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum.

That's a great argument if the logic is actually the same in both cases. It's not. We have a choice in the market. Every person gets to decide whether or not to buy video games or give money to Microsoft. The genocide happened against the Jews' will. A proper comparison would be if Microsoft was actually stealing our money rather than us willingly trading it.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 8:22 am

well, if Xbox is banned, maybe bethesda might make skyrim DLC non-exclusive? i doubt it, but i can always hope

Never gonna happen. MS has too much money in Xbox.
Worst that happens is is they have to pay Whinearola....excuse me, Motarola some money.

Seriously, this is my main gaming console. Get over it motarola and settle this without making the consumers suffer.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 5:26 am

well, if the whole patent thing is true, microsoft illegally used the technology, and have been earning huge money from it, so motorola has a right to get mad
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 4:48 am

well, if the whole patent thing is true, microsoft illegally used the technology, and have been earning huge money from it, so motorola has a right to get mad

But if its the controllers, they don't have the right to nuke the whole thing, Just redo the controllers.

I've put a lot of money into the Xbox, I will be furious if they make all of that money completely wasted because some obscure line of patent was violated.

and to the people who want this to happen, just shut it. Not everyone has the money to join the "master race"
If you gamed on the Xbox would you be wanting it banned? Empathy people. There is more in the world that just you
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 11:03 am

But if its the controllers, they don't have the right to nuke the whole thing, Just redo the controllers.

I've put a lot of money into the Xbox, I will be furious if they make all of that money completely wasted because some obscure line of patent was violated.

and to the people who want this to happen, just shut it. Not everyone has the money to join the "master race"
If you gamed on the Xbox would you be wanting it banned? Empathy people. There is more in the world that just you
good point, i agree with you there. but i think that to redo the controllers, you'd need to change the Xbox's receiver as well. not totally sure about that. a friend of mine has Xbox, it's a good console, sales of the xbox getting banned would svck.
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Post » Sat May 26, 2012 1:01 pm

good point, i agree with you there. but i think that to redo the controllers, you'd need to change the Xbox's receiver as well. not totally sure about that. a friend of mine has Xbox, it's a good console, sales of the xbox getting banned would svck.
So do it. Microsoft is a mega corporation with some of the smartest nerds in the world employed. This should not be hard for them.

Banning the whole thing because of the controllers seems like gross overkill.
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