Advice needed. How does it make sense to play as any race ot

Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:56 pm


Dragonborn do not wield an ancient Nord power of the voice. There is no such power. Nords have had a special fascination for the language of dragons, and some made an art of speaking it. The art brings power, but that power comes from the language itself, which does not come from Nords, but from dragons. The Voice is called a Nord art only because the practice originated with Nords, thanks to their cultural fascination with dragons and the dragon tongue. Being Nord doesn't give a person any special aptitude in the Voice.

Dragonborn have the souls of dragons, not the souls of Nords. They don't practice the Nord art of the Voice, but speak the dragon tongue naturally.

Right, but there has NEVER been any mention of anyone (other than Nords) ever using the power of the voice.

So it would be a first time thing for any non-Nord character.

It just seems "off" for any race to use the voice, other than a Nord.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:58 pm

Clearly, in the song, "the dragonborn comes" the verse specifically identifies the voice as being an ancient NORD art, thereby making it a Nord art.

Sure, other races can learn it and speak it, but it robs me of the feeling that I am an authentic dragonborn in the game.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:13 pm

Anything can be done, as long as you brush aside some overarching plots and motifs. And of course, the presentation and marketing stuff. I mean, I kind of get a chuckle of imagining a Bosmer fighting with the Nord/Skyrim theme song (nothing wrong with that, but it's kind of funny. The whole thing has a kind of Wagnerian feel to it or something).
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Julie Serebrekoff
 
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:51 am

My character a Argonian Dovahkiin, strange, or not ... The Gods deceided it it seems ...

And no one questions the Gods ...
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:51 pm

I was under the impression that the Thu'um was first learned by Nords, so its originally from the Nords, however its to do with your bloodline so it may have originated with the Nords but if a Nord Dragonborn were to have kids with a Breton then the half Breton children would also be Dragonborn. Then if those Breton kids grew up and had kids with other Bretons over several generations you have essentially a pure Breton that also happens to be a Dragonborn. Same goes for the other races, though I think that the Argonians and the Khajit might be harder to explain, if I remember right there is a book in the game that states that it might not be possible for those races to mate with others like Nords and Elves. Not sure.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:21 pm

All i have heard are hypotheticals. I hate having to force facts aside.

I love the nords but after creating about 5 nord characters, all of them have those incredibly annoying dimples on their cheeks.

I cannot get over my hatred for it, so I will role Breton.

Yes, it is fair to say that the f*cking dimples ruined Skyrim for me.

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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:58 am

In the Elder Scrolls children mostly take after their mother, so if you had a Breton mother and a Nord father it would make sense to start a Breton character - but you'd have plenty of Nord blood too.

That's actually how I tried to link my Breton character with the Nords and the whole Dragonborn thing for role playing purposes. I also have my main home in Markarth for that character, so close to High Rock and the Bretons (and with the Forsworn nearby who are Bretons) but in a Nord city.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:04 am

All i have heard are hypotheticals. I hate having to force facts aside.

I love the nords but after creating about 5 nord characters, all of them have those incredibly annoying dimples on their cheeks.

I cannot get over my hatred for it, so I will role Breton.

Yes, it is fair to say that the f*cking dimples ruined Skyrim for me.

I *think* "Jaw Forward" has an effect on that. Not sure.

I have a hard time making Bretons and Imperials on my Xbox, since the graphics are kind of blocky. I can't tell what anything really looks like.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:03 am

Tiber Septim was a Nord, and the Septim line likely became Imperials over time through marriage etc.

There is no real proof of Tiber Septim being a Nord.

In fact he could also have been a Breton, born under the name of Hjalti Early-Beard, according to http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Arcturian_Heresy.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:13 am

Did you read any of the history books laying about? The Imperial emperor line of Septims were dragonborn as well. Weren't they Imperials? Fact is, the gods don't stick to one territory, and in fact it may even amuse them to cause the Dragonborn to be born elsewhere. They do know the future and your destiny DOES bring you to Skyrim, so there's that.

I think the Imperial Emperor who was Dragoborn, Tiber Septim aka Talos, was a Nord decendent. But yeah, just goes to prove that in the Empire you dont have to be a full blooded Imperial to be a key member of it.


Heh I remeber I kinda had issues playing as a dunmer in morrowind. Why the hell do they keep calling me outlander??? I guess the Vvardenfall dunmer have the smokers voices and the rest of the outlander dunmer have those dry british accents you find in skyrim.

According to Lore, Dunmer are wary & distrustfull folk, so anyone who is not born in Morrowind, that includes fellow Dunmer that have been born outside Morrowind & return to their Ancestral home. So they would consider your character as an Outsider/Outlander.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:33 pm

There is no real proof of Tiber Septim being a Nord.

In fact he could also have been a Breton, born under the name of Hjalti Early-Beard, according to http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Arcturian_Heresy.
True but Talos has been called a Nord before he became a Divine and as we all know, Talos is Tiber Septim. Its one of the reasons that the Stormcloak rebellion was such a big thing.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:48 pm

Skyrim`s pretty bad with its totall fear of treating Race as a real issue in their games.

There are no real consequence at all. Imagine being a Khajitt and never being able to enter a city until you manged to squeeze a Special Permit by maybe saving the jarl`s daughter in the wilds and he rewards you but can`t do too much because of public attitude. Then when you wander around the city, people stare at you and children point. Walk into a tavern, and a drunk starts a fight with you.

Could be even worse for an argonian. But it would not be impossible to play and still follow the quest line. It would just take longer as you solve quests and start killing dragons ...Bit by bit the people would start to realise you are a boon and not a bad thing. You`d become the `Strange mere that killed Dragons and was accepted as an honorary Nord`.

Sometimes a really good roleplaying game would be really interesting if it got really mature and played the races attitude and showed you what life was really like from the other side.

meh.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:04 am

Some posts here are assuming that when Tiber Septim founded the Imperial College of the Voice in Markarth, that only Nords were taught there. Think about the lack of military sense if no Cyrodiilics were given this power.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:05 am



I *think* "Jaw Forward" has an effect on that. Not sure.

I have a hard time making Bretons and Imperials on my Xbox, since the graphics are kind of blocky. I can't tell what anything really looks like.

EH???

Help me out, my friend, as I am on the xbox and I CANNOT repeat CANNOT get these mother [censored] "Slater" from Saved by the Bell dimples to disappear!

I cannot FOR THE LIFE of me understand why nobody else has complained about this, as it is excruciatingly annoying!

How can nobody else be bothered about the fact that their Nord (supposed to be hardy, tall, strong, and battle - hardened) has these boy band dimples!

I am [censored] pissed as hell!!!


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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:58 pm

Skyrim`s pretty bad with its totall fear of treating Race as a real issue in their games.

There are no real consequence at all. Imagine being a Khajitt and never being able to enter a city until you manged to squeeze a Special Permit by maybe saving the jarl`s daughter in the wilds and he rewards you but can`t do too much because of public attitude. Then when you wander around the city, people stare at you and children point. Walk into a tavern, and a drunk starts a fight with you.

Could be even worse for an argonian. But it would not be impossible to play and still follow the quest line. It would just take longer as you solve quests and start killing dragons ...Bit by bit the people would start to realise you are a boon and not a bad thing. You`d become the `Strange mere that killed Dragons and was accepted as an honorary Nord`.

Sometimes a really good roleplaying game would be really interesting if it got really mature and played the races attitude and showed you what life was really like from the other side.

meh.

agree with this... they said nord hate elves, especially altmer.

or most cities won't accept argonian and khajiit, especially windhelm, where the non nord hatreds are so big
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:44 pm

Role and Imperial then, Tiber Septum was an Imperial - Dragonborn.

Dragonborns are those blessed at birth by Akatosh, and he does not discriminate between races in the manner that you think.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:56 am

You can just as logically play as an Imperial. The Septim line begins with a Dragonborn, after all.

I've been playing as an Imperial, a Battlemage type. Heavy Armour, spells, and sword as a back-up.

You can play straight down the line, siding with The Empire and enjoy this game just as much.

But really, the Race of the Dragonborn does not really matter. There's no reason he HAS to be a Nord. Just play a character with a logical approach to events based on their Race and character role. Pick what factions they join up with based on that.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:36 am

do you want it to make sense, or do you rather want to play as breton?
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:12 am

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to create any Nord which doesn't have these annoying cheek dimples!

I have created a Nord from every preset, and at the end, every one has these same cheek dimples. Even Nord npc's have them.

They ruin the character for me. I cannot have a battle-hardened warrior Nord in big, burly dragon armor, with these fairy dimples.

First and foremostly, I agree with your statement about the Nord seeming the only proper choice. However, I myself have the luck of prefering the battle-hardened Nords over the other races so this works in my advantage (minus the bits in-game that make a person feel less Nordly)

Second, they aren't demples. The Nords, being culturally and physically moddled after the ancient Scandanavians, have very high and pronounced cheekbones. Personally, I'd have no use with a chubby faced Nord. He or she wouldn't look like a Nord. o.O
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:22 am

Yes, some races seem a bit odd for the Dragon Born, like Argonians, High Elves and Khajiit.

Although the human races all make sense since the dragon blood was a gift to humanity from Akatosh in their ancient war against the dragons.

Wasn't Tiber Septim the famous previous Dragon Born a Breton? I'm sure one of the in-game books says he came to Skyrim and Cyrodiil from High Rock.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:44 am

I feel the same way OP. I have a lvl 55 Nord, a lvl 2 Dark elf which I deleted and yesterday i made a lvl 2 Imperial. I dont think ill be finishing that character either, i always end up going back to my main character
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:45 am

Yes, some races seem a bit odd for the Dragon Born, like Argonians, High Elves and Khajiit.

The Thalmor would almost certainly disagree with you.
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Post » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:44 pm

It just feels slightly wrong to be playing anything other than a Nord warrior, At least that's the impression the game is giving me.
My sense of "not belonging" was enough for me to delete my Khajit character.

It really should not be a problem but it is for me:(
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:22 am

The Voice isn't a Nord ability, it is a DRAGON ability. The Nords are only associated with it because of TIber Septim using it to unite and create the Empire. Then the Greybeards continue to worship it.

Perhaps Akatosh gave the Nords their chance and their time is coming to an end. Maybe this time, with Morrowind in shambles, Akatosh would choose a Dark Elf to rise up and create the next empire. Or maybe the Orcs are the ones that are deserving.

My guess is that Akatosh views all races as just mortals and can't really tell the difference between any of them and just handed down the dragonborn gift to whatever soul happened to shine the brightest at that particular moment.
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Post » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:15 am

My dragonborn character is a Breton from the Reach. So it would make sense having him Dragonborn because technically he is from Skyrim.
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