then why did bethesda say they were going to relase patches for quest fixes if they weren't?

Also since when did Skyrim have a live update feature?

Its had this feature since launch, it was much reported at the time that his was the route they were taking. They stated they would release updates, it is the people who then automatically assume this therfor means patches, when it can actually be in the form of the live update system.

On the PC this would translate to remote ESM changes without requiring a new executable for the updated files.

Well besides the fact they specifically said patches in interveiws you know.

They stated both patches and updates. When releasing engine patches it makes sense to also unclude any ESM changes that are ready at that point. But its not a requirement that they MUST patch to change game data.

Do you have a link to said article that staes Skyrim has a live update feature becuase no such feature is mentioned on wiki, or uesp, and absolutly no game sites from Kotaku to PC gamer to IGN has any reports on it.

Sorry no, I dont have a link handy though I definately read it here on the site via a link in a thread about the updating procedure for Skyrim. Also if you take note of the bethblog it states;


As you can see they dont need full "title updates" to do gameplay updates. The incremental "gameplay updates" it refers to is the live update system. Basically the way I understand it is the games exe file is hardcoded to load an update ESM right after the master ESM. The update esm doesnt require an exe update, as its only making changes to the gamedata in the ESM (similar to modding) and not engine level changes.

note they use updates for both things.

If the gameplay updates were so diffrent from the normal updates wouldnt they call them something else to show the diffrence?

As it is now all they have said is that some of the updates will be focused on gameplay changes.



I found no trace of this live update system at all.

They do and they are. Thats why one is that is an engine change is called a title update, and incremental gameplay updates are background updates via live updating.

Title updates are updates that feature engine level changes and also any gameplay changes ready at that point. These require the user to download an updated file from the network and apply it prior to play. This is because they require an executable update in order for the engine level changes to take effect.

Incremental gameplay updates are background changes made to gamedata without requiring a download prior to play. They happen in the background and dont require and executable update to be used.


Its hard to find in google searches due to the number of nonsense and garbarge across the web since launch with similar tags. Its there though, its just a bugger to find I frankly cant be bothered to wade through pages of searches to it.

Im sure plenty of other users here are more familiar with the article I mentioned and have a link.

ROFL

Different teams, patching is testing, scripts and skyrim.exe, DLC is probably still mostly design.

I assume 1.4 is the last major patch and they want to stuff as much as possible into it. The CK will also be released as part of the patch.

No. I've got more issues with Skyrim than I had with those two. Lucky, I guess? I didn't say anything about expectations, though. I said I hope. Click the wrong quote?

The devs are only human, give them time

A post about what they are working on would be nice.

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You know that Beth, or any game company, isn'y responsible for making these patches? They do it because they love their fans and want the best out of the game. Hell, if they wanted they could release a game and not even do a single patch?

Lots of people complaining here need to be patient because these guys are working as hard as they can to fix bugs, AND create the dlc. It's not like they just sit on their ass and do nothing. Be patient.

You honestly think that the fact that there is no regulating body to insure that games actually work when you purchase them removes any responsibility to make a functioning product?

yea lmao, they almost have to fix their games otherwise more people get pissed and boycot haha

Wow. That was a while ago... and still no decorating/un-upgradable weapon fixes. Ha. Looks like TheVaygrr called it.

Well of course they have to work. What I mean are those tiny tiny bugs that everyone gripes about. All games have them, Bethesda games more than others, but many companies dont even bother with the small glitches.

If you want the patch to come out soon, it will only fix two or three bugs, and the patch will be pretty much useless. These things take time guys, it's much better to have few patches that fix dozens of bugs, than a patch a week to fix one single bug.

Skyrim has two camps. One has problems, the other doesn't. Most people in the latter plug their ears and yell "lalala". Only people in the 1st camp would rebel, but bugs haapen mostly by luck.

It's been 6 months.

If you can rid a game of all bugs, make a perfect dlc, and satisfy a millions of fans, WITHIN SIX MONTHS, then you have right to complain.

Really? Because buying a product with the currency that you have acquired, usually means you have the right to complain, which I wasn't. Merely stating it has been 6 months, and a lot of things have yet to be addressed. But I'm glad you took time out of your busy day to try and one-up somebody on the internet. All of your friends must think you're awesome.

I wasn't 'one-uping' you. I'm just tired of everyone complaining about how crappy a job Bethesda is doing at fixing these issues. If they could fix these easily and stop complaints easily, then why wouldn't they? It's because these things take time.

Now I'm sorry if you weren't complaining, because I thought you were. Everyone else on this forum is nowadays.