Apologies owed to Bethesda...

Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:04 pm

First off, let me begin by saying that I LOVE Skyrim--loved it from day one, and continued to love it even when I ran into that nasty little glitch involved with the Esbern/Main Quest Line situation, and I had to restart my game and follow through that particular area carefully and precisely to make sure all went well the second time around. And of course, at least in my case, everything did go well, and I actually benefited from restarting my character with some gameplay and experience under my belt to build a better badass! ;) And I love it still at the very moment of this writing--I even started a new character a few days ago to play in different ways than my primary level 81 Dark Elf, just so I could have a little something to do in Skyrim until the new DLC comes out for us, since my Lvl 81 girl has conquered just about everything there is to do for the time being. I affectionately took her home to her house at Lakeview Manor, took off her armor and put her in a comfortable dress, then sat her down in the dining hall to rest with her new family until the next DLC adventure arrives. Yes, I know, that sounds kinda korny; but then again, haven't we all grown attached to our characters in such a manner that we feel compelled to do things like that? I know I have, and I know many of you have done the same with your own, from what I've read on this forum. And we must thank Bethesda for providing us with such wonderful escapism.

Now my main motivation for writing this entry was because of something I stumbled across in another topic, where I read a diplomatically stated, obviously heart-felt grievance expressed by one of the Bethesda team themselves. The basic gist of it was that they've worked so hard to provide us with the best possible game that they could, and that all of the complaints and untoward curses issued by some players due to game glitches was actually hurtful, and I strongly sympathize with the team of geniuses that created Skyrim for feeling a bit slighted. Nothing in this world is ever perfect, and I challenge anyone to create anything that is without some degree of flaw, especially given the enormity of a game such as Skyrim. And keep in mind that this project must still be a more than full-time job for them, and they've done so much to rectify those flaws for us, even after the game has been out for almost an entire year, because I'm sure they love it just as much as we do.

So my point here, folks, is that everyone needs to cut Bethesda some slack. Be patient, be understanding, and most of all, be thankful and more respectful of a brilliant team of programmers who bear the weight of creating a world on their shoulders.

Sincerely,

S.T.
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Brian Newman
 
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:42 pm

Well i can just say I bought dawnguard and it crashes constantly , ps3 users still have to get their dlcs and most of the bugs are not yet solved ...other than that I love their games .
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:55 am

very nice post.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:55 pm

Considering it's been about a year and they still haven't patched a lot of the problems from the base game. I think I'll hold out on giving them any developer of the year awards especially since the game was plagued with a ton of bugs from the start, and they knew of the problems with the PS3 (I play on 360) and went forward with it anyways.
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Darren Chandler
 
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:29 am

Nice post friend. I agree with you!
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Nikki Lawrence
 
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:40 am

to apologize for them making a buggy game?

What?

.. ahh man i don't want to live in world anymore.
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Mason Nevitt
 
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:39 am

I would apologize for bashin Beth, but quite honestly they deserve it. They release a game knowing that it's doomed to fail and then they show a lack of respect towards the community by being so silent. Maybe we PS3 players and Bethesda can call it even once we get a product that functions as they said it would.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:09 pm

S.T., I agree with what you're saying. I am sure the team is doing their best... we wouldn't even have a game to complain about if it weren't for Bethesda.

If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you please link to the above mentioned topic?
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:36 pm

Considering it's been about a year and they still haven't patched a lot of the problems from the base game. I think I'll hold out on giving them any developer of the year awards especially since the game was plagued with a ton of bugs from the start, and they knew of the problems with the PS3 (I play on 360) and went forward with it anyways.
to apologize for them making a buggy game?

What?

.. ahh man i don't want to live in world anymore.

I could not have put it better. Cut them some slack, why? The 1.8 update fixes next to nothing, and certainly there is no mention of them fixing the horrendous bugs that many people experience with Dawnguard and the Vampire Lord tutorial which is quite literally a game breaker, and which they assured me, when I made a support ticket, that they were aware of and were fixing in the next update. Instead they are ignoring all of this in the rush for more DLC dollars, and as usual the patch has broken more than it fixed...derp...no quest markers...derp Creation Kit crippled unless you happen to have a backup of the 1.7 Update.esm and Update.bsa.

If this is their best, I would really hate to see when they are having a bad day.
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:52 am

May be I live in a Quantum Parallel universe, but in my many gameplays of the Game, I never got a big bug. Just one or two little things. So for me some complains are annoying.
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:53 am

Meh, i havent got too many bugs on my playthrough, so i find that most of my gripes with skyrim are with its lack of choices and flat storylines. (Ahem, college of winterhold questline).
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:49 am

Meh, i havent got too many bugs on my playthrough, so i find that most of my gripes with skyrim are with its lack of choices and flat storylines. (Ahem, college of winterhold questline).

That is a point I agree. Is the only major flaw for me. But I tend to roleplay and I dont join many guilds, mainly I just join the Legion.
But besides that, is a great game.
I dont know, for what I see the most bugs comes from the console players. I sorry for them, but I think this kind of games suits better on a PC.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:39 pm

That is a point I agree. Is the only major flaw for me. But I tend to roleplay and I dont join many guilds, mainly I just join the Legion.
But besides that, is a great game.
I dont know, for what I see the most bugs comes from the console players. I sorry for them, but I think this kind of games suits better on a PC.
Really you don't say? Hmm could it be because PC players have the unofficial patch that fixes most of the problems while we're stuck waiting for Bethesda to fix the game? If I had an amazing PC I'd play on it to sadly I don't.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:45 pm

Really you don't say? Hmm could it be because PC players have the unofficial patch that fixes most of the problems while we're stuck waiting for Bethesda to fix the game? If I had an amazing PC I'd play on it to sadly I don't.

As my costume, I play the two first gameplays unmodded to see what I like of the game and what I dont, and I runned in so little bugs (repaired by loading a short previous save in the few cases). That skyrim was without dawnguard or hearthfires though, just plainly skyrim. Except that two, I played a modded one but not used the unofficial patch since heartfires cames out, so I cant say what bugs it has fixed for me yet.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:15 pm

I haven't experienced a significant bug yet either (crosses fingers). Sure there's the occasional glitch, but nothing that I'd be willing to sacrifice any of the complexity of the game to fix.
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:40 am

I haven't experienced a significant bug yet either (crosses fingers). Sure there's the occasional glitch, but nothing that I'd be willing to sacrifice any of the complexity of the game to fix.

You are from my paralell universe then haha
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:38 am

As my costume, I play the two first gameplays unmodded to see what I like of the game and what I dont, and I runned in so little bugs (repaired by loading a short previous save in the few cases). That skyrim was without dawnguard or hearthfires though, just plainly skyrim. Except that two, I played a modded one but not used the unofficial patch since heartfires cames out, so I cant say what bugs it has fixed for me yet.

Maybe you're just lucky, but your quote was "I see the most bugs comes from the console players." but the majority of people on PC if they have problems will download the unofficial patch that fixes their problem, which would mean they have no reason to come on the boards and complain. Console players HAVE to wait for an official patch and have no choice in the matter. Which is why you would see a lot more of them come on the boards to complain. I'm happy your game is good though because most of the time I have to have a bunch of saves and plan out what I'm going to do/not do in order to bypass a bug/glitch or just not do because they are broken all together and I'm waiting on a patch that fixes it.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:33 pm

I've also heard from a few different sources that Bethesda was pressured into releasing the game on a set deadline before they were really comfortable with the finished product, but the "powers that be" insisted. And also keep in mind that everyone has a different story about glitches; some small and some huge--some none at all, making me wonder about different platforms, and not to mention, everyone owns a different individual machine for that respective platform. Let's face it: electronics are not an infallible entity that exists uniformly with all others that were made in duplicate with it. Some people's machines (xbox, ps3, pc...) simply operate better than others'. We can't deny that. My glitch was different than yours...and different than yours...and so on. Ya get where I'm coming from? It just makes me wonder...
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:37 pm

i like beth , i love the worlds they make for me, those 100's of characters i have made, all that achievement,love,light, happiness even compassion

but...well i am not very impressed with the ps3 problems , i actually play on pc but i do feel sorry for the players who play it on ps , they havnt even got dawnguard yet , this issue needs to be resolved.

i accept that with a game like skyrim you are going to get a ton of bugs , but what people are saying about some very big bugs that have still not been fixed is true - it causes everybody a lot of grief when their game crashes and such.

i like todd's vision of tamriel , its so great to have an american visionary , it does make me feel quite reassured , i think he is just constantly thinking "more , more , more , go , go ,go!!" and he isint stopping , looking back at what he has already done and thinking " i should probably go over that"

but yes , overall respect to the team who have done this work of wonder :dance:
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:15 pm

Maybe you're just lucky, but your quote was "I see the most bugs comes from the console players." but the majority of people on PC if they have problems will download the unofficial patch that fixes the problem which would mean they have no reason to come on the boards and complain. Console players HAVE to wait for an official patch and have no choice in the matter which is why you would see a lot more of them come on the boards to complain. I'm happy your game is good though because most of the time I have to have a bunch of saves and plan out what I'm going to do/not in order to bypass a bug/glitch or just not do because they are broken all together and I'm waiting on a patch that fixes it.

Yes, that is sadly true. I just say what I saw on the forums the most. But that supports the point, that this kind of complex game is more suited for PC knowing the tools it has to be, in this last case, partially fixed by the community.
In other point, you see, when I runned skyrim under a windows 7 32 bit, the game just svcked, ctd every time, textures glitches... umplayable.
Then I installed windows 7 64 bit, and all was solved. I dont know how the PS3 or the XBOX administrates their resources in this matter, but, may be you got there some big problem causes. (May be Im just saying crap hehe, I never owe a console besides my gf PS2 and I dont use it never )
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:21 pm

Oh and sorry for my cave-men english, Im a little asleep (8 am here and I wake up 24 hs ago) and is not my native language.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:55 pm

also id like to add that i dont think the company is greedy anymore , the fact that i could pay hearthfire for around £2 was great , it made you feel like they were not robbing you blind , lots of people say it costs the same as a cup of coffee ...well its rather expensive coffee if you ask me , is it Starbucks ? (dig , dig) :drag:

also the team have released some updates that have resolved a few of the bugs/ problems , its really neat how they also give us free content - yes i know it is very small - but its still really nice that the team reward their fans

i have had problems with dawnguard , but overall i am really enjoying it at the moment , it was very well made - really well done guys :)

and i love hearthfire , i adopted lucia and got her a dress that she looks beautiful in , my family live in breezehome ( husband , child , lydia) an it has really made my house feel like at home

is it true that beth are going to remake solstheim ? that would be better even than SI
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Post » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:54 am

May be I live in a Quantum Parallel universe, but in my many gameplays of the Game, I never got a big bug. Just one or two little things. So for me some complains are annoying.
Same thing for me and I feel the complaints as more than annoying. Probably because I'm able to put myself in the devs shoes easier than they do.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:56 pm

Maybe they stay silent and they have updates with little fixes is because they have not fixed it yet? Forcing them to rush the fixes is rather annoyingly rude of you. Manners people manners. They are doing as much as they can. If the cant fix it, well take your game back.
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Post » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:11 pm

Yes it is rumored the next DLC will take place in the island of solsthein. The trailer will be rolling on monday.
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