Apparent Alien Skull Found? : Othor Games

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:58 pm

Looks human to me. :shrug: Elongated and deformed skulls really aren't anything new or unusual anymore.

Though if you believe Giorgio Tsoukalos and co. humans did this to themselves to try and make themselves look more like alien visitors. :rolleyes:

What happened to the History Channel? I used to love watching actual historical documentaries on there. :sadvaultboy:

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:04 am

Species evolve through breeding over generations, so I can safely say that none of us right now are evolving. Unless we're pokemon...

Thats what I meant, I didn't literally mean that my toes were developing webbing at thsi moment in time.

@Wonderwombat, no species never stop evolving. With every new generation it takes on characteristics of its parents. As many generations pass the characteristics that help a creature survive become dominant and the traits that don't help a creature survive disapear, because well they die since their trait didn't help it survive. That's the whole darwinsim "survival of the fittest" idea.

In a very small nutshell obviously, there is a lot more to it, like randomm mutations and all that good new sciency stuff.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:57 pm

This.

As far as I understand it the closest known planet that could be habitable, Gliese 581 g, is a good 20,5 light years from Earth, and with spaceships not being capable of going even at the speed of light (granted we can get pretty close, however due to our mass it would be impossible to truly reach that speed without disintegrating into tiny particles) it takes even longer to get there. And even with that this planet only could support life and even if it had life then what would the chances of it having any sort of truly intelligent life on it be ?

It could be many hundreds of light years to the next planet with intelligent lifeforms and even if it was only a single hundred light years, then who would be willing to spend his or her entire life traveling there ? Heck even if aliens had longer lifespans then it would still be something not to be desired since it would still be 100+ wasted years just traveling to a planet (and let's not forget the trip home...) which no one would put themselves through especially for simple reasons such as just visiting, if an alien had ever come here it would be on a mission of a larger scale than fickle feeling of curiosity and a need to visit new places.

Even if we think about them being able to freeze themselves until they've finished the trip it would still be a bad decision, unless they could somehow persuade the entire rest of their planet to do the same... imagine going to sleep and waking up 100 years later when everyone you know is either dead or has forgotten about you.

And so one can go on, basically the gist of it is the following. With the world being so massive there probably are aliens out there that can match or even out-perform the intelligence of humans, but no matter how smart they are they can't change the laws of physics, only use them for their purposes like we do, so it would take far too long to travel between planets for it to be worth it. So even with aliens to match us in intelligence we would never travel to them and they would never travel to us. So there have never been any aliens here on Earth, there are no aliens here on Earth, and there never will be any aliens here on Earth.

Typing out long winded posts is great, but using human logic on things that very well may be out of our scope of comprehension is just ignorant.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:11 am

Typing out long winded posts is great, but using human logic on things that very well may be out of our scope of comprehension is just ignorant.

So you're suggesting that thsi alien man baby just appeared here.

His logic is completely sound and thsi isn't beyond our comprehension.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:39 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2063486/Is-alien-skull-Mystery-triangular-shaped-head-Peru.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

This has been buzzing around the internet for awhile, so I thought I'd continue it. Apparently an alien skull has been found in Peru, and has been confirmed by doctors and scientists, though I don't know if any of them are credible or not. If its a real skull, it certainly has very large eyes, which stands out as the most peculiar thing, because you can get that shape of head by deformation or binding a child's skull, but the eyes just couldn't be human.

Or its just a plaster hoax. Who knows, right?

What do you guys think?

~~My uncle Marven from Tallon IV~~---uh---forget what just said :whistling: .

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:27 am

Typing out long winded posts is great, but using human logic on things that very well may be out of our scope of comprehension is just ignorant.

http://www.amazon.com/Demon-Haunted-World-Science-Candle-Dark/dp/0345409469

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:34 am

Typing out long winded posts is great, but using human logic on things that very well may be out of our scope of comprehension is just ignorant.

Here's some more human logic for you:

An alien species is advanced enough to be capable of interstellar travel. Yet the only evidence we have of their existence is a skull. There's a couple things wrong with this:

If they wanted us to know they were here, we'd have evidence of that
If they didn't want us to know they were here, we wouldn't have anything

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:48 am

So you're suggesting that thsi alien man baby just appeared here.

His logic is completely sound and thsi isn't beyond our comprehension.

No I never said anything about the skull actually. I doubt it's any sort of alien skull, most likely a hoax.

Here's some more human logic for you:

An alien species is advanced enough to be capable of interstellar travel. Yet the only evidence we have of their existence is a skull. There's a couple things wrong with this:

If they wanted us to know they were here, we'd have evidence of that
If they didn't want us to know they were here, we wouldn't have anything

Or perhaps they're just neutral when it comes to human existence. Perhaps they don't have the senses needed to register our presence, or maybe we're just a joke to them. Perhaps we're just ants in an ant farm or flakes in a snowglobe. I can't say one way or the other, but I'm not going to pretend human beings are the Gods of existence, and if we don't register it, it's not there. That's just nuts.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:23 pm

Saying this skull has a chance of being from outer space is like finding an oddly shaped banana in your fruit bin and you exclaim it came from INSIDE MARS, FROM A SPECIAL SECRET UNDERGROUND FACILITY WHICH GROWS FRUIT.

The article should have said "weird skull found", but well, it's the Daily Fail.

Suggesting there's a chance that it came from outer space is very very naive. Yeah, there's a chance, but why on earth would you even say that? You could say that for every damn thing ever discovered on earth, but you don't do you? Of course not, because it's not very plausible, and you try to first come out with more plausible and straightforward theories.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li0s9igCBt1qbolbn.jpg.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:52 pm

Great, I lost my alien skull the other day. Where can I go pick it up?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-1-AWESOME-GEODE-Agate-Carved-Alien-Crystal-Skull-Head-Healing-Crystal-Healing-/300617499542?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fe330396 Hope you've been saving your pocket money for one.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:08 am

Typing out long winded posts is great, but using human logic on things that very well may be out of our scope of comprehension is just ignorant.

Human logic is different from the kind of logic other sentient beings would use ? And if "human logic" is insufficient to argue against why aliens would be able to visit Earth, then can it not be said that human logic is insufficient to argue for why aliens would be able to visit Earth ?

And could what you are saying not be applied to other things as well. Even if we are quite positively certain using modern physics that the law of conservation of energy is a true law, could our "human logic" just not be able to comprehend it despite various tests all leading to the same conclusion, and could not some alien be the creator of all things, or perhaps there are aliens who would wish to destroy all energy and matter.

If we start to ignore the brilliance of our own species and look at laws which will always end with the same result no matter how many times they are tested, then we can go pretty much anywhere with theories about the world until we start believing there is such a thing as magic. Yes, I know the phrase "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" but there is a point where it just becomes silly. No technology can make one plus one not equal to two, and no technology can break laws of physics which we can and have tested many times always leading to the same conclusions.

Now I'm a strong believer in alien life somewhere out there, this world is just too wast for there not to be another hospitable planet such as this one somewhere else. However I won't ever start to think other sentient beings could perform feats which we humans have already proven to be impossible to perform.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:59 pm

We're calling physical abnormalities evidence of life outside earth, now?

Not now, this is a particularly favourable conclusion made by certain people since aliens became popular in film -- imagination trumps logic. The probability of aliens coming here isn't small enough, but them taking on similar bone structure and density too? Life isn't without irony in how similarly religions humanize (<- give human characteristics to) the supposed wisdom of an omnipotent entity, and how aliens-have-come believers humanize aliens from elsewhere in similar regards.

I vividly remember Veritas Secreto's old topics about aliens. If anyone else happens to, then you might remember how the conclusion of alien life coming here was already made. The "research" done catered specifically and only to finding things that agreed with this pre-established conclusion, ignoring other far more prominent, and logical, conclusions.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:54 am

Why are aliens married with the idea of having a big head and big eyes? Have they stated that it's skin colour was green yet?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:27 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2063486/Is-alien-skull-Mystery-triangular-shaped-head-Peru.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

This has been buzzing around the internet for awhile, so I thought I'd continue it. Apparently an alien skull has been found in Peru, and has been confirmed by doctors and scientists, though I don't know if any of them are credible or not. If its a real skull, it certainly has very large eyes, which stands out as the most peculiar thing, because you can get that shape of head by deformation or binding a child's skull, but the eyes just couldn't be human.

Or its just a plaster hoax. Who knows, right?

What do you guys think?

Well if they do throw it, it does become a UFO. It's an unknown flying object. So I guess, yeah.

:rolleyes:

The human race should stop kidding itself already. Just because we have gained the power of space-travel doesn't mean the aliens that are out there have gained them too at the same time. They'd likely have found us ages ago if they are anywhere close to us and thus, they are not anywhere close.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:57 am

I'm going to stick with physics on this one: interstellar travel is impossible.

Add common sense: even if an alien species was capable of it, it would be such an effort that they wouldn't come here for just for a picnic, there'd be a lot of evidence found of them.

Add Occam's Razor for good measure: there's a lot of much more propable explanations than aliens for this, many mentioned in this thread already.

Therefore, not an alien. Next mystery? :hehe:

No doubt there are intelligent alien species out there, but they are stuck in their solar systems like we are in ours.

*cough* they discovered recently FTL and Interstller travel were possible but not for us yet :biggrin: misread your post but yeah it is interesting to think were all trapped inside our own bubble of a Solar System
Next time on ancient aliens:
Was hitler really a fire breathing science thingy? OOOO that can fly

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:37 am

Why are aliens married with the idea of having a big head and big eyes? Have they stated that it's skin colour was green yet?

Now you're being silly. Everyone knows they have grey skin:

http://arcturi.com/GreyArchives.html

:wink_smile:

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:42 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2063486/Is-alien-skull-Mystery-triangular-shaped-head-Peru.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

This has been buzzing around the internet for awhile, so I thought I'd continue it. Apparently an alien skull has been found in Peru, and has been confirmed by doctors and scientists, though I don't know if any of them are credible or not. If its a real skull, it certainly has very large eyes, which stands out as the most peculiar thing, because you can get that shape of head by deformation or binding a child's skull, but the eyes just couldn't be human.

Or its just a plaster hoax. Who knows, right?

What do you guys think?

The Daily Mail has a science section? Who knew?

Wedged right between the celebrity phone hacked gossip, patronising human interest stories, and articles complaining of too many immigrants, probably. :rolleyes:

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:34 am

we are too uninteresting as a species to warrant investigation.

Just like an anthill on the corner of your street doesn't warrant your investigation on a daily basis either..

..unless you're ten years old.

Thus, any aliens will be the equivalent of ten year olds who nicked their daddy's spaceship on a Saturday night to come cruising..

great.. first contact will be us getting punk'd by adolescent LGM's(*) or BEM's(**)..

(*)Littler Green Men
(**)Bug Eyed Monsters
please try to stay abridged of the current usage of acronyms, thank you.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:24 am

Thus, any aliens will be the equivalent of ten year olds who nicked their daddy's spaceship on a Saturday night to come cruising..

..first contact will be us getting punk'd by adolescent LGM's(*) or BEM's(**)..

Meaning more forum members who act like me

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:18 am

*cough* they discovered recently FTL and Interstller travel were possible but not for us yet :biggrin:

I've heard it's theoretically possible to travel overlightspeed by compressing space, but that takes so much energy that it's impossible because of that :hehe:

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:55 pm

Why are aliens married with the idea of having a big head and big eyes? Have they stated that it's skin colour was green yet?

Big head means big brain, it has happened with hominids on our plant for millenia, the next best one typically has a larger head, and us, homo-sapies, the survivng ones have the largest head, well brain cavity, but that is what the large part is. So if they are very intelligent then having a large brain cavity is probally a certainty. Now the eyes I don't know, maybe cause its dark in space and they need to see better...

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:07 pm

http://troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/i-dont-know-therefore-aliens-thumb.jpg.

You know what is funny and sickening about that show on History Channel, "Ancient Aliens"? Erich von D?¤niken, the author of the Ancient Aliens franchise, was imprisoned, and even exiled from multiple European countries for defrauding the public. Yet, in America this guy gets his own TV show on The History Channel. In fact, the Carl Sagan quote I used in my previous post was actually directed from Carl Sagan to Mr. Erich von D?¤niken, I kid you not.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:05 am

Why would aliens think us an ant hill? LIfe on other planets is more than likely rather rare, see teh Drake Equation. Yes its a lot but there are a lot more empty uninhabitable worlds?

Not too mention how would they alien have got here> Well in a spacecraft of some sort. If you find an alien skull, there has to be a spacecraft nearby, and that shouldn't be too hard to find.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:12 pm

You what is funny and sickening about that show on History Channel, "Ancient Aliens"? Erich von D?¤niken, the author of the Ancient Aliens franchise, was imprisoned, and even exiled from multiple European countries for defrauding the public. Yet, in America this guy gets his own TV show on The History Channel. In fact, the Carl Sagan quote I used in my previous post was actually directed from Carl Sagan to Mr. Erich von D?¤niken, I kid you not.

Wow, I didn't know that famous Carl Sagan quote was directed towards him.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:25 am

Not too mention how would they alien have got here> Well in a spacecraft of some sort. If you find an alien skull, there has to be a spacecraft nearby, and that shouldn't be too hard to find.

Except the fact they are aliens. Their alien technology has allowed them to develop highly advanced biodegradable ships.

Jeez, you'd think that was obvious. :rolleyes: