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The number 30 has a very interesting relation with Normal distributions. To begin with, the Central Limit Theorm states that no matter what the distribution of the actual population is (it may be totally random and may not follow any distribution), the sample means will follow normal distribution if the sample size is large enough. This "large enough" has been statistically accepted to be 30 - meaning that if we draw samples of size 30 or more (n >30), the sample means shall follow a normal distribution, irrespective of how random the original population was.

And once you have normal distribution, you can start to use it as an approximation of the whole. The larger the group, the better the chance of the sample group mirroring the whole, but at 30, the chances of the sample group being an outlier are pretty small.

As far as your claim that age is an inexact measure of maturity or opinion, you will see that i happen to agree with you, if you look at my post about conservativeism.

I tried to manhandle your argument down the trash, I apologize. When I said, "lololol Try 3,000 votes trolololo" I should have said, "the population on Brink's official forum can not be polled sufficiently random enough to qualify a survey's findings as representative of the whole population: this is not a Normal distribution". The whole population being people who play/will play Brink, or have gone in depth with the art direction for other purposes.

Which isn't really that important, as our second point (age is an inexact measure of intellectual or emotional maturity) will most likely not be sufficiently refuted for this poll to stand as-is in the lifetime of the poll... or ever. It's a flawed poll.

LMAO, let me say right off the bat that both of you took this to a philosophical level, but if you wanna take it there..the im GAME!! so here it is:

@Shadowcat
You are right. After i did the poll I realized that the results of this poll cannot be taken to seriously due to the fact that all of the voters here are enough of fans of the game to come and join the forums. that being said, i cannot call this results conclusive as the audience was biased, and obviously the group was not enough in numbers or diversity.

@Dromaeosaur
In terms of maturity, i guess you could say that i implied that lower age = less maturity, but that would be very vague. I acknowledge that maturity from one person varies with the next, and just because 2 people have the same age does not mean they have the same maturity. But, since you opened the philosophy door, i am going to further argue that even the concept of 'maturity' is but a subjective one. What one person considers mature might not be the same for the next person. Even more, maturity is not something you can physically or scientifically measure or define. So really this poll was not intended towards maturity, but more towards the tendencies (notice i didnt say certainties) in behavior and thought that come with age.

And ninjat_126,

i am not saying this to offend you, but in all honesty if you are in that age group, 13-16, you definitely still are a child. trust me when i say that when you are several years older you will look back and say "damn i was just a kid. i knew nothing back then"

C'mon, dude, that's an unfair generalisation.

Not really. Even really mature teens tend to grow more before they hit 25, usually becoming remarkable individuals by that age. So while at 16 they might be an advlt compared to others, they are still a child compared to what they will become.

The only problem with calling them a "child by comparison" is the negative connotation it has for anyone who is already mature.

Again, it wasnt meant as an insult, but i stand by it. I know you feel you are mature and knowledgeable, and i dont doubt you are. But you still have so much to go, you will only realize it in time. One of this world's most respected philosophers,
"I know that I know nothing" - Socrates



Kudos. Could not have said it better myself. But I personally think that even past 25 one still so much to learn. Hell, i think no one ever stops learning.

I wasn't referring to myself, I was saying you were unfairly generalising the 13-16 or-whatever-it-was year old. I am 18......and a different person.
Also, that's kind of an odd use of that quote. Socrates wasn't referring to learning of our ignorance, he was talking about the fact that man is ignorant; as in we know far less than we think we know and can never know anything with absolute certainty, and that almost everything we think we know is only true in our own contexts, not on a personal level, but as a collective human race.

wow, i feel the exact opposite, the art style is my favorite part.

I thought you had to be 18 to post here...

13, thus the lower limit on the poll

I love the art style of Brink. I'm 15 but that's not what draws me to it. Even if I was way older, I would still enjoy Brink I've seen a billion realistic looking shooters. I don't want Brink to be a billion and 1. The same goes for if all games were hyperrealistic, I would want Brink to look realistic and not hyperrealistic

But all in all, i like Brinks style, it makes my eyes feel like they're high on drugs ^_^ Shinigami, you're just weird lol.

Yeah i have to agree with the post above about COD. Ever since Modern Warfare ive felt that games like Call of Duty that try for the super realistic even look more unreal in the end. All the shiny surfaces and what not. What i like about this art style and cel shading(one of my favs) is they allow for alot more detail than the photo realistic designs. Plus i love the grity feeling that this game has too it which also makes it feel just that much more realistic.

I very much agree with you games try way to hard to look more "real" when most games that go for the cartoony look seem to always come out better and brighter. I just think some games should kinda pull away from the "realism" of some games and try something a bit more unreal and they might turn out better. (but thats just my opinion)

man. i wish you put 20 yr olds in the next bracket... kuz i think teens should have their own bracket! i ain't no baby!!!

I am sick of people looking at a virtual world and comparing it to the real world, instead of immersing themselves into the beautiful world that was created for them and looking at it in it's own right,

To be fair, the frontal lobe of the human brain is not fully developed untill age 25, btw that is the part of the brain most commonly assoicated with decision making skills. So yes teenagers and young advlts are mentally childish when compared to their older selfs, which is why we have the term "full-grown advlt", meaning a advlt who has pretty much grown up as much as he/she ever will. So yes, you will look back at your teenage years and say "wow i was stupid" because you will be so much smarter in comparison to your younger self.

However, that is a good thing. Because if you are a smart teenager, then that means you will most likely become a brilliant advlt.

No your not.

He was at the moment. <_<

Hey since he both of you (i assume) are 30+ years old, i would love to hear your opinion on the visuals. I was expecting people like you guys to prefer something more realistic or serious.

Will be 46 in 2 days. I'm really liking the look of this game despite coming from games such as OFP, CoD, Battlefield and so on. But that might be due in part of my love for near future sci-fi art. This game and it's characters remind me of Mad Max and Road Warrior with a slight exaggeration.

I am almost 30 and I am simply tired of realism. If you want realism, go to the gun store and shoot up a grocery store(SATIRE ALERT!)

But seriously I want to be captivated. I want to feel in game immersion. I think BRINK aesthetics, not just the character models and colors but the environments as well give a cell shaded feel but with sharper definition. As for the characters, I think they are awesome.

Cheers on the mad max reference. I was seriously thinking that as I was typing my previous post.

This is my opinion also.

From the moment they choose to have a different and specific art style in their game is absolutely certain that some won't like it and some will,it's a matter of taste.
If i didn't like it so much i guess i wouldn't mind it that much cause this game offers what FPS genre doesn't...i'll go off topic if i anolyse it,so,simply,i like it ans the Genesis video is cool,my timeline

I like it, but wouldn't have had a problem if it was more realistic or more stylized.