So yeah, after all the faction discussion on the forum the last few days, I decided to try sum up all main factions with the disadvantages and the advantages that they have. If I missed anything or if I don’t have my facts straight, then please, say something about it! Note that whenever I say ‘’the supporter of this faction is..’’ I’m making a generalization.
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NCR: “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.” – Winston Churchill

The supporter of the NCR is someone who thinks that after all that was lost in the Great War; infrastructure, the buildings, the majority of the population, the knowledge; we shouldn’t also lose our political system that we believe in. It took decades for us to come up with this system, so why give up on it now? Everyone in the wasteland should live under the NCR’s rule according to the supporter. Equality and freedom will be part of everyday life. The ‘Vox Populi’ must be heard, even though the ‘populi’ mainly consists of people who aren’t educated. To reach this goal, the NCR expands without forgetting its moral standards. Establishments where people are living a good life and don’t need the NCR’s help, they let be, and if there is a diplomatic solution, they will go for it. You can’t deny that their moral standards don’t slow them down though, and if the NCR expands, it will do so slowly, and it will take years for the NCR to take over the entire wasteland. Sure there are some ‘bad things’ about the NCR, like bureaucracy, high taxes, discrimination (Major Knight), unqualified officers (Bitter Springs anyone?), corruption, the way the NCR’s soldiers are treated, and all that jazz. The NCR supporter will say that most of these things are simply ’for the greater good. ’At the end of the day, the NCR supporter is a proud American who would fight for liberty and freedom, if he were a waste lander.

Caesar’s Legion: ‘’The end justifies the means.’’ – Common expression in the English language, derp

(Note that, like many on this forum already stated, we know nearly nothing about the life in the East)
The Legion supporter says harsh times call for harsh measures. The wasteland is a mess, and the Legion is going to clean it. Fast. The roads and establishments will be safe, with minimal loss of lives of the innocent. Their methods are brutal and effective (Forlorn Hope). The Legion, of all factions, gets the most opposition on this forum. They do horrible things, there’s no denying that. But if the Legion takes over, they take over fast. It will be a matter of time until the Legion takes over the entire wasteland, and everyone will be safe from raiders and military forces. Living under Caesar’s rule won’t be very cool though, I’m just going to quote myself here: ‘’In the Legion, people are born, they are brainwashed, they serve Caesar, they die.’’ It’s an uncool life, but it’s a safe life. An argument that’s often used against the Legion is that it will crumble when Caesar dies, because all legionnaries are like programmed robots. Whether the Legion will be stable under the rule of Lanius or Lucius is a very subjective thing I believe. One of two things happens:
A ) The Legionnairies won’t recognize their beloved Caesar in the new Caesar, and infighting breaks out.
B ) The Legionnairies are so loyal they’d even follow the orders of Caesar’s if Caesar’s second in command was a manbearpig.

Mr. House: ‘’ Throught the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision.'' - Ayn Rand

As a Mr. House supporter I look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rPFvLUWkzs and I say ‘’yeah that’s pretty cool, but have you guys heard about the man that saved Las Vegas from being consumed by nuclear bombs and restored it to its pre-war glory?’’ We Mr. House supporters believe that a man who has made such accomplishments is the best for the Mojave. However, for all we know, at the other side of the wasteland there may be a gang of raiders rap ing little 6yearold girls. We Mr. House supporters aren’t going to do anything about it. Life in the Mojave will be stable, peaceful, safe and cold. Not as safe as life in Caesar’s land, but still it will be safe. Science will progress very fast, and life will only become better and better. There will be no way the leader can emotionally connect with the civilians. Some people think of this as a big issue, others don't. The biggest issue in my opinion with Mr. House is still the fact that he doesn't expand, and that the good life the people in the Mojave are living won't be for everyone.

Wild Card: ‘’No Gods, no masters.’’ - Emma Goldman

The Wild Card support says that no one is qualified to rule over the Mojave, for whatever reason. There is very little to say about the Wild Card supporter, because no one knows how the Courier rules over the Mojave. You could say that his main disadvantage is the same as Mr. House’s: Life will be good, but the good life won’t be for everyone.

I like all the quotes before each faction, the NCR one I see a lot on these forums :thumbsup:

Did you mention that house calls the people of the mojave inbreds and saying that most of them cant read in the same quote you used for him? You may want to mention his arrogance, its a big issue as it will affect his decisions and he is a dictator.

Mr. House is a dictator?!
OMG! this changes everything! I totally didn't know that! Thanks, man!

Anyway, I actually found the way Mr. House ended his obituary quite humorous. Mr. House knows that he's a smart man, so yeah, he does put himself above other wastelanders. Still, living under his rule isn't so bad. For example, in one of the Primm endings he sends a securitron to Primm to protect it. The Primm citizens have to pay taxes, but it's better then nothing, right? What has Primm ever done for Mr. House? Nothing!

I tried to make a neutral summary of the four main factions in the game, I did not want to make another ''Which faction is best?''-thread.

Lol, thats quite a big point which you missed out of the faction description. Makes a diffrence, if he wont let his people vote in someone else if they want him to go

House is a benevolent Dictator,

Or a Autocrat bastard

... what the hell are you trying to say?
Edit: Oh I get it now, you didn't understand my sarcasm... lol.


NO ***** HE'S A DICTATOR/AUTOCRAT!
and whether he's a bastard or not is completely subjective

Any man who writes his own obituary is not to be trusted, I say.

More regarding House: stability of the kind you're describing equals ridigity equals stagnation. A system that is static and non-adaptible is doomed in the long term. An immortal egomaniac with an army of robots is as rigid and un-adaptible a system as one can get. One glitch, and it's all gone.

Scientific progress, House style, isn't going to happen for the same exact reason. House isn't looking to empower the people by giving them knowledge and tech; in fact, he guards his knowledge with the kind of jealous zeal that even the Brotherhood of Steel cannot match. What conceivable harm could there be in sharing some of his medical knowledge with the Followers of the Apocalypse?

first of all, thanks for actually taking some time to write your post, instead of just saying ''Mr. House is bad! He is dictator!!!! OMG!!''
second of all, what do you mean by ''one glitch''? What could bring Mr. House's system out of balance? Please respond and I'll try implent it in the OP.

On an offnote, I'd have gone with the quote by Ayn Rand 'Throught the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision.' as the quote for House

Anywho, I'd say a way to sum up how life in the Mojave would be. Cold, efficient. And before anyone has a derp moment and says cold=evil. I mean cold as in distant of emotional depth, yet in its place, technologic progress will excel.

Let me put it this way; a good-for-nothing Bugsy Siegel wannabe with a pulse grenade was able to disable and reprogram a Securitron, hack into House's systems and forge a viable plan to dethrone the old egomaniac. I think Arcade even comments about it, noting that House's security protocols are woefully inadequate. It doesn't appear that House as much as acknowledges the existence of the problem, and him being who he is, he would probably scoff at the idea of an uneducated Wastelander trying to give him advice.

Fallout universe robots are generally not very trustworthy. There are more crazed Mr Gutsies, Protectrons and Robobrains in New Vegas than there are sane ones.

And then there's any number of accidental things that could happen. An earthquake, a power surge in the Lucky 38's ageing curciutry, a tiny leak developing in Mr. House's life-support chamber, an unforeseen software glitch that may or may not be related to the platinum chip upgrade, an accidental missile explosion inside Lucky 38 due to a Securitron's missile launcher having a faulty trigger assembly. You name it, life's got it. The NCR can lose Kimball and march on, the Legion can lose Caesar and march on, but if anything whatsoever goes wrong in the House's robot kingdom, it's an instant and complete collapse of everything.

Yeah, okay, I understand. I'll implent it in the OP


That's a nice quote :turned:
I'll implent that in the OP too

You can't use this to make a point, this entire paragraph is a strawman argument, relying on 'could have' and 'if' ramblings.

Isn't that what most of these discussions on the factions are? What ifs and this could haves?

I once read someone saying ''if Mr. House would have caused Bitter Springs, he would have done nothing about it, the NCR is best!!!!''.... I don't want this thread filled with that kind of poo.

So why did you quote such an awful response into your thread? I was just saying a lot of the stuff on these boards are speculation and what ifs. I have no intention into turning your thread into a favorite faction thread.

okay, thanks for not having evil intentions :spotted owl:

A Bugsy Siegel wannabe with a pulse grenade is not a what if; it's the central element of the game's plot. The rest are entirely realistic possibilities, the probability of which is bound to increase over time. House won't last forever, nor will his chamber, nor will the Lucky 38 or the Securitrons.

My whole point about House is that his system is lousy at responding to the unforeseen. I was invited by the original poster to suggest examples of the unforeseen. How do you suppose one could do that without "what if"?

still, Chandler isn't a real threat. He eventually fails at Fortification Hill.

I think one of the most efficient ways New Vegas could become a country and survive is the way I RPed with Independant Vegas.

House becoming an assistant, helping the Courier make tough choices as ruler while Yes Man runs the robot army and the other factions (BoS, Boomers, etc.) make up the rest of the military. It's a great system that could hold up against the Legion and maybe the NCR.

well, this thread isn't about ''the most efficient way for New Vegas to survive''.

But that's not because of anything House does. It's because Benny was too vain to change his hair. Were he a tiny little bit smarter and had he not have to rush it because of the Courier, he could have made it.

Actually, without the Courier, I think Caesar would turn to Benny to take care of House.

speculations, speculations, speculations...

bump, I worked to long on this :c