Keep in mind you can tweak them all those are the pre sets.
I made an attravtive Orc female, that looks more merish.

Pics or it didn't happen!

Also, I agree the orcs in Skyrim definitely show their kinship to the elves...but frankly, most elves I run into have such a pronounced bone structure that I don't find any of their women attractve either. Human women naturally have (on average) higher body fat percentages than men do on average, and so we have become accustomed to softer facial features in women. Elven women therefore tend to look a trifle mannish to me, as a result. Their bone structure is fairly delicate, sure, but it's still rather sharp. Orcish women have the same problem in spades.

I am not around my game right now cannot get pictures. We may have different taste anyways.

I do like how they look more mer than monster because they are not. The mer races features are a bit sharp it takes some work with them but I find their distinctive sharp features fitting to their race within The Elder Scrolls universe. I do agree I personally find human races more beautiful, but for me beautiful and attractive are two different things. I do agree too that the Orsimer women do have even more sharp features as they should have.

Perhaps you've become accustomed to softer facial features. I prefer angular features.

It's simply a matter of preference. There are a lot of people who prefer rounder features and they're all having the same problem you're having. The presets for Skyrim are strongly biased toward angular features. That fits with the aesthetic of the game and is great for people like me, but not so great for people like you.

You can soften the features somewhat by lowering the cheeckbones and making them less pronounced, widening the chin, lowering the jaw and lowering eyes/brows/nose/mouth to make the face look less long, but it's not going to give you the soft features you're looking for.

I agree that they shouldn't be monstrous. Trolls are monsters in Skyrim, orcs are people. They're just awfully ugly people. Maybe even attractively ugly, in a sense, but ugly nonetheless.

I suppose that I'm purely talking about attraction in the sense of attracting potential mates. I'm not saying orcs (male and female) are unpleasant to the eye, I'm just saying that orc-women simply aren't gonna be attractive to human men as a woman with those big honking teeth, somewhat masculinishly heavy cheekbones and jaws, and so forth.

I think you're really underestimating the human six drive. I have a feeling that ES games are a secret haven of Furry activity.

Yes they should look mer because they are I hate when people here think they should be monstrous.

Well I find the Altmer and Dunmer even some Bosmer women darkly attractive even some Orc women.
I have made an Altmer that finds some Orc women attractive, but my Altmer gets around and has lots of mixed race children so I can roleplay more races. He does not go beast race tho.

Okay, lookit; any woman with three-inch, pointy tusks ain't gettin' anywhere near my goods, okay? There's a certain sense of self-preservation at work in that.


I highly expect you're right about that. I already have issues with cat-women and lizard-women with boobs.

Well, while I agree with you in the context of TES, lemme play devil's advocate for a second. Remember where orcs came from. The original Tolkien orcs were, like TES orcs, descended from ancestral elves, but in their case they were captured, enslaved and corrupted by Morgoth, a sort of rebellious, evil greater god if you haven't read The Silmarillion. He wanted some vicious, nasty orcs and he got 'em.

Well, while TES orcs don't have the same backstory, it does have similarities. Apparently Boethiah literally ate Trinimac, the Aldmers' prime god, and literally crapped him out as Malacath, corrupting him and as a result corrupting a large section of the Aldmer into the Orsimer. So there's an argument to be made for a certain amount of monstrousness with TES orcs. Personally I think they're about right in Skyrim; brutal and somewhat primitive, but not so nasty as the orcs of Middle-Earth.

With Orc women, that's probably justified. They eat horses.

What yoou say is true Malacath did birth the Orsimer so to speak now here they are, I feel that this game has captured their look far better than any previous entry in the series. I do agree they should look somewhat monstrous but they should not be as demonic looking as LOTR Orc race. I feel they have captured the Aldmeri ancestry in this game perfectly.

The horses can worry about themselves; I just wouldn't want a stray fang making me a gelding.

Nothing wrong with that.

I tried and failed.

A Frenchman! Get him!

I wish the orcs had more monstrous than Elven features. Yes, they may be elves, but they have been cursed to have a much more monstrous appearance. Their faces are way too angular and prissy this time around, disregarding the teeth. On an only tangently related note - No, Bretons do not and should not look like "Half-elves", either. Jumping to that conclusion comes from a stupidly shallow lack-of-understanding of the lore behind them

On that note... I find the underbite and large teeth very attractive. Though I think the male orcs are more handsome than the female orcs are beautiful.

Wait, what?

I think Skyrim has envisioned them better. The Dunmer was curesed too and they still look more mer than monster way more.

The teeth and underbite does fit them very well.

Also, there's a difference between the Dunmer and Orsimer. The Dunmer were literally and willfully cursed by...one of the Daedric princes, can't remember her name, as a punishment for the Chimer abandoning the Daedra. I'm not sure that the Orsimer were similarly intentionally cursed. I get the impression Boethiah ate Triminac just to be a little [censored] about it, and Triminac being changed in the process and his followers changed with him seemed more to be an unintended consequence, not something that was literally a planned curse.


But they are basically half-elves. Their ancestors intermarried with elves more than any other population of humans, and it should show in their features.

lol

Did I get it right?

No I am American.

Except they aren't - Yes, they are descended from elves and humans, but the end result was human through-and-through. They are easily recognized by fair skin and dark hair.

Well, careful about talking about eating horses. Those dudes from Texas get awful tetchy about things like that.

Just a joke but oh well. lol

Not so. While yes, to my eye they seem to appear more human than elven, in some book or another in the game it's stated that when (I believe) the second wave of Nedic settlers, the Nords, arrived in Tamriel, they had trouble distinguishing Bretons from Mer because of the extensive amount of intermarriage. So not only does it show in their magical affinities, it's apparently reflected in their appearance as well, at least to some degree.