I've put around 200 hours into Skyrim and it IS a masterpiece... but boy, is it a flawed one.

After having convinced myself upon finding a bug, 'it's just a little hitch', 'it'll only happen this once', 'they'll fix it with the next patch' more times than I care to remember, I just now experienced my first backward-flying dragon, and I feel like a part of Skyrim's magic is forever lost.

I held off downloading patch 1.2 until I guessed, going by information posted on this very forum, that 1.3 would be right around the corner. A week later and still nothing (I'm on 360). I respect that we are waiting on Microsoft but if we, the users, don't put pressure on you, you won't put pressure on them, and they'll be free to screw us around forever more (I won't go into my previous experiences with MS here, but they've not been good).

I now feel as though I am having to make excuses in order to hold the game in as high esteem as I want to. Shouts not working, draugr falling from the sky, being stuck in sneak mode, atronach stone causing my conjurations to fail... It seems there's a new bug to be found every day. If this wasn't balanced out by the fact that I am finding new (and exciting) content every day, I probably would have hung up the controller by now.

I want to say Skyrim is a 10/10. I want to be completely immersed in the beautiful world you have created for us... But the immersion is being broken by the feeling that the mechanics of the game cannot be trusted. I want to fear these dragons... But when they appear to be possessed by the spirit of James Brown they are anything but intimidating.

I love what you've created, Bethesda, but please do your creation justice!

There is nothing Bethesda can do. It's up to Microsoft to release the patch.

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MS and Sony are doing the right thing holding off on the patch. After the 1.2 fiasco i don't blame them one bit. I am curious as to what is taking so long though...

The bugs are bad, yes, but there's still plenty of good to keep me happy. So long as my save files aren't corrupted or the game is otherwise broken, I'm content.

Would it be wrong to assume that maybe they are doing their own testing on these patches?

They surely don't do independent testing, do they? If it's left Bethesda I don't know what more can be done. Also, I hope Bethesda learned something from 1.2 and made sure 1.3 is good as gold.

This.




I have 1.3 on PC and it's fine.

they already finished the patch for PC though

I was with you on this for a long time, but as I said, this crazy dragon just took something from the experience that I will never get back.

Bethesda - PC.

Bethesda - Sony/Microsoft - Console.

I hate this. I don't want a leash with my hardware purchases.

Sony doesnt care about the game play .Thier just testing to make sure they cant be hacked because of it.LOL

Exactly, any fault with gameplay rests squarely on BGS shoulders.

I feel your pain OP. I've put up with this half-ass crap from BGS for almost ten years, only because of my love for the fantasy world they have created, and my anticipation to see what's "around the next corner". I still do have confidence in the team to rectify all problems in good faith.


Yes there is something BGS could do; Properly QA a game for once. If they're so damn hell bent on a release date then invest in a proper QA team. Investment in QA is a preventative measure... Investment in marketing hype with a release of faulty product is a failure of confidence in their consumers. In today's market this is going to hurt them across the board, more so with the PS3 since they still cannot address a seriously game breaking bug with Oblivion (Skyrim's predecessor released nearly six years ago).

I mean really, how difficult can it be to develop a game when your design benchmark is a fricken six year old machine?

if you played for over 200 hours, they must have done something right, no?

TES doesn't have more bugs then other games because Beth is lazy, they have more bugs because they have more freedom.

There are literally MILLIONS of different ways a player might do things and it's impossible to test all of them.

I have no problems with the OP's point, but some of you need to get some more realistic expectations.

As Ive said before, TES gives you so much that you only notice what you DON'T get.

I've already experienced 2 quest-breaking glitches both being trophy related quests which is completely ridiculous, you'd think they would have vigorously tested trophy related quests!!

Your complaining about a dragon flying backwards? That's just sad.

The new perk point limitation is pretty much 99.97% percent of why I hate Skyrim
With 00.01% percent being the pause menu another 00.01% percent being a crappy story and 00.01% being plain, bland and non diverse among many aspects

I keep using this argument on myself (except with 75 instead of 200), but it sounds weaker and weaker to me each time I realize it's one of my only arguments in support of the game.

Actually it's...

Bethesda - Valve - PC
Bethesda - Sony/Microsoft - Console

The PC updates go through Valve, just like Sony. Steam even tried to force a secret drm update. There's a leash ether way...

It's not actually as complex as you are making it out to be. They keep it pretty simple by compartmentalizing a lot of the content.

Wait, so 99.97% of your problem with the game is that it forces some minor form of replay-ability by not making it possible to get all the perks for every skill on a single character?